Newsweek reports United States is the 2nd most hated country in the world

[Trade]

I don't recall England jumping in to help us in Viet Nam...!

Showed good sense on their part. The only way I participated in that fiasco was under duress from my draft board.

 

[smiley]

Showed good sense of their part. The only way I participated in that fiasco was under duress from my draft board.

Oz did though and they're partly british?

 

[dilettante]

The French and Brits basically set the Indochina wars up by themselves.

Right after WW I they both spurned Ho Chi Minh when he asked for help gaining civil rights for the Vietnamese. They had bigger fish to fry: divvying up their plunder of Germany, which of course set the stage for WW II.

 

[Packerjohn]

Here in Canada, almost everyone would give almost anything NOT to join the USA. We have health care, we have dental care, we have child care, we have a democratically elected leader and we don't have to carry guns to protect ourselves: Elbow Up! CANADA NOT FOR SALE!

 

[oslooskar]

wots San Francisco like today last time I was there was 1980 thereabouts and we found it rather cool and friendly told not to wonder to far away from the tourist area ?? had a ride on the street cars but the rest of the family where just not interested - we went to dysney land and a boring trip out to the large trees forest with the driver constantly touting for donations to his poor family ?? begging I would call it? bus trip around inner somewhere to see the Hollywood stars houses [boring] none invited us in!! If they thought they had a tourist slant they we're selling it too well? but despite all the negatives loved the experience - but I do wonder whether they have grown bored of tourists after all you can ; can't you?

You're lucky there isn't a law against typing while intoxicated.

 

[Warrigal]

Oz did though and they're partly British?

Not really. We are a very diverse and multicultural people, very similar to US.

In truth, our leaders were sucking up to US, hoping that US would come to our aid if we needed them.

Sadly, we no longer have that expectation even though we have the ANZUS treaty.

 

[oslooskar]

I think you should take a closer look at WW II history, in particular the dates. US did play a significant part in the victory but Britain joined the fight against Hitler from the time he invaded Poland in October 1939.

You might want to take a closer look at the dates yourself, Hitler invaded Poland on September 1, 1939, not in October. And if you're set on downplaying America’s role in World War II, just know you're stepping into a debate you’re not going to win. Yes, Britain held off the Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain, and credit is due, but they didn’t do it in isolation. U.S. material support via the Lend-Lease Act started flowing before Pearl Harbor was attacked, and that aid kept Britain afloat. And let’s not forget it was American forces at the Battle of the Coral Sea who stopped Japan’s advance toward Australia. Without American power, industrial, naval, and military the outcome of World War Two would’ve been catastrophic for the Allies.

 

[oslooskar]

Oz did though and they're partly british?

You mean Brutish.

 

[Warrigal]

You mean Brutish.

Now that is just rood!!!

 

[oslooskar]

Now that is just rood!!!

Oh come now, don’t be such a spoilsport, after all the pot shots you’ve been taking at the U.S.? If you can dish it out, surely you can handle a little wordplay in return.

 

[smiley]

You're lucky there isn't a law against typing while intoxicated.

do we have laws on here?? - sometimes my Metoprolol gets in the way??? how's yours??

 

[oslooskar]

my Metoprolol gets in the way??? how's yours??

I keep it refrigerated and take 12.5 mg at 9:00 A.M. and 12.5 mg at 9:00 P.M. with one 81 mg baby aspirin before bed.

 

[smiley]

and its working well?

 

[Warrigal]

Oh come now, don’t be such a spoilsport, after all the pot shots you’ve been taking at the U.S.? If you can dish it out, surely you can handle a little wordplay in return.

Potshots? If my posts are erroneous, I welcome your correction of the facts.
My opinions though, are subjective, and my own. I make no apologies for having opinions that are different from yours.

On the other hand, if we are playing a game, then game on.

Your serve.

 

[Della]

Let me tell you that many of us "Red Blooded Americans" prefer you all never want to live in our country! Please feel free to visit, but go back home...
As for Newsweek Magazine, it has been a "rag mag" for many years...! Years ago, our college class used Newsweek to study poor writing technique and bias, we had to write a paper on it! I got an 'A' on that paper, and it was easy with all the BS they have in the magazine...

Then did your teacher have the students do the same thing with Time the following week? While growing up, I read my father's Time Magazine, but later on I subscribed to Newsweek for myself. It was generally understood that Newsweek slanted slightly left while Time slanted right, but both seemed like pretty good magazines to me, consolidating the week's news and doing some long feature articles.

I chose Newsweek because of their last page opinion pieces which were written by either Anna Quindlen (liberal) or George Will (conservative) on alternate weeks. Both are Pulitzer Prize winners for their journalism.

 

[hollydolly]

So who came in first?

I read that it was China... and I was like... really ?... no-one hates them here... and then I read a second report that said it was Japan... again, I thought , really ?... no-one hates them here... so I've come to the conclusion it's all made up...

 

[Rakaia]

There have been 816 posts in the thread. Mostly Liberals. I and most Conservatives here have not joined in. We love and support the restoring America.

It was almost ruined by the biased fake news mainstream media like Newsweek and they are still at it. It was almost ruined by gangs being allowed to crash our borders, human trafficking, burning our flag, taking over our once finest Universities, murdering and raping our innocent ones, etc etc

Have you noticed the Media never mentions the border? Not one person is crossing now. Trump isn't sitting idol behind his computer trashing other countries. He's got a vision and he's focused on restoring the America that everyone once wanted to come to for the American dream.

He's also focused on peace in the world. Meanwhile, yes, he's also fixing the way other countries have taken advantage of America and those countries not happy....but it will work out in the end for all...if you let him. We're hated? It's growing pains...we're healing. You'll see.

Huh?

 

[oslooskar]

Potshots? If my posts are erroneous, I welcome your correction of the facts.
My opinions though, are subjective, and my own. I make no apologies for having opinions that are different from yours. On the other hand, if we are playing a game, then game on. Your serve.

You’re right, Warrigal, everyone is entitled to an opinion, no matter how smug or selectively informed. But if this is your idea of a game, I’ll sit it out. I prefer discussions where facts aren’t optional. That said, I’ll be on the sidelines ready to challenge any historical revisionism you try to slip past.

 

[oslooskar]

and its working well?

I finished a one-kilometer swim about an hour and 15 minutes ago, and my blood pressure is 117/68. I’m 83 years old. I went into A-fib when I was about 68, and I’m fairly certain it was caused by overexercising—mainly from my grueling 15-minute workout on a heavy freestanding punching bag.

 

[oslooskar]

I read that it was China... and I was like... really ?... no-one hates them here... and then I read a second report that said it was Japan... again, I thought , really ?... no-one hates them here... so I've come to the conclusion it's all made up...

Here in Thailand there is a growing dislike of Israelis.

 

[Timewise 60+]

Here in Canada, almost everyone would give almost anything NOT to join the USA. We have health care, we have dental care, we have child care, we have a democratically elected leader and we don't have to carry guns to protect ourselves: Elbow Up! CANADA NOT FOR SALE!

You can be sure we don't want Canada! Socialization just does not work for Americans...and trust when I say that we don't want Canada or any other primarily Socialized country.

 

[OldOld]

There is a difference between refugee and illegal.

Correct. And I just don't think many people will be happy when some homeless just come camp out on your frontyard uninvited. (they become homeless for various reasons).

 

[dilettante]

Actually there is a flood of Canada's best and brightest to the US, and has been for years. The brain drain is pinching, hard.

The driver of this is probably the sour economy, with housing costs out of control combined with high taxation and lack of opportunity.

 

[Magna-Carta]

Looks like this thread is drifting ever deeper into history lessons -- WWII in particular. Some of the comments on that seem reasonably balanced, others not so much.

@Timewise 60+ , I know your response was to @Inept, but I’ve got to ask, which textbooks are you getting your mythologised history from? You still haven't managed to explain this gem of a statement of yours, "I would not expect someone from England to agree! ..... You all would be speaking German if it was not for the USA!"

And with an exclamation mark too, how cool is that? Why not go for the full drama and use three.

I get the impression yoy tried to close your post in a way to prevent people from replying. But I will have a go all the same.

Everyone that has studied WWII history knows that England was in trouble as the Germans were beating them to death!

Just England, or the whole of the UK? Considering the way you present yourself as someone who's studied WWII history more deeply than most, I’d have thought you'd be past the habit of referring only to England when talking about events that involved the entire United Kingdom.

On a fairer note, that statement of yours is partly true. Yes, the UK was in serious difficulty at times, but it’s also clearly exaggerated.
Are you saying you've actually studied WWII history in any depth?

The USA came to stop the Germans from destroying England.

I've never seen that written down anywhere -- do you mean like the US cavalry turning up just before everything is likely to be lost? What are the names of these history books that you read?

The trigger for US entry into the war was Pearl Harbor. Germany declared war on the US because America had declared war on Germanies ally, Japan. In turn, the US then declared war on Germany. The U.S. didn't leap into the European conflict out of some spontaneous burst of sympathy for the UK.

Can you find anything like this in the books you read?
* December 7, 1941 – Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.
* December 8, 1941 – The United States declared war on Japan.
* December 11, 1941 – Germany and Italy (Japan's allies through the Tripartite Pact) declared war on the United States.

The US declared war on Germany and Italy not because of some gallant charge to save England, but because the Axis powers brought them into it.

We did that even though the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor; we understood that England was in trouble.

Could this be a case of confusing sentiment with strategy? Without wanting to repeat myself, U.S. entry into the war wasn’t a charitable act toward a struggling ‘England’.

and we knew we could also wipe out the Japanese.

Seems to me like nothing more than overconfidence based on latter hindsight. It took nearly four years, immense loss of life, and two atomic bombs. And let’s not forget: China, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and the Netherlands were all involved too.

One of the primary focuses was to help England and France defeat Germany!

That’s fair enough to a degree, but it’s not as if the UK was sitting around helplessly waiting for the US to arrive. France had already fallen by the time the US entered the war, so I’m not quite sure what you mean by ‘helping France’. And let’s not forget the Vichy regime, did US support extend to the British attack on the French fleet at Mers-el-Kébir in July 1940?

We knew we could fight both wars and win! Otherwise, our leaders would not have jumped into both battles' fronts...

That's quite a bold statement. Are you suggesting there was no uncertainty what so ever -- from anyone within the US?

The fact that our counties speak the same language has nothing to do with WWII!

Well, make your mind up. Are we in the UK not speaking English today because of US involvement in WWII, or not? Was it not you who said, 'I would not expect someone from England to agree! ..... You all would be speaking German if it was not for the USA!'

Although we share many commonalities including language. I don't recall England jumping in to help us in Viet Nam...!

“England” again instead of the "UK”. But anyway, thats correct, the UK and most of the rest of the world didn't get directly involved in what many around the world at the time saw as a very controversial war.

That's enough on this post, as you say the time is not worth it...

If that’s your exit line, fair enough. But it does come across a little like a rhetorical mic drop to avoid having to back up some pretty bold claims.

 

[Lawrence00]

I read that it was China... and I was like... really ?... no-one hates them here... and then I read a second report that said it was Japan... again, I thought , really ?... no-one hates them here... so I've come to the conclusion it's all made up...

It is completely made up. They write these articles to get people to come to their web page, then they make money from ads. I have been inspired to create my own fake story website. I really need the money.