Old time name calling! Somewhat controversial!

jimintoronto said:
Man I have no idea where you get that idea ? I live in the largest city in Canada, 3 blocks away from one of the main streets in the city. The sidewalk cafes and bars are busy every day of the week, and from April to October, every week end in Toronto there are at least 3 or more Festivals, drawing thousands of people. The city of Toronto just held the election for Mayor, and more than 600,000 people cast a ballot. Does that sound like no one is out and about ?

"All the bars and taverns are closed " ????? Where do YOU live ?? Either you are incredibly isolated, or you are pulling everyone's leg here ?
JimB.
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There are no neighborhood bars or taverns. What you are talking about are entertainment districts filled with loud, musical clubs and restaurants. I used to go to my local bar after dinner at night to chat with the boys or watch a game. There I'd rub shoulders with others who worked at the plant just like me or lived just down the street. Places like this don't attract the tourists or dating couples out to wine and dine.
 

Robb.hisself said:
There are no neighborhood bars or taverns. What you are talking about are entertainment districts filled with loud, musical clubs and restaurants. I used to go to my local bar after dinner at night to chat with the boys or watch a game. There I'd rub shoulders with others who worked at the plant just like me or lived just down the street. Places like this don't attract the tourists or dating couples out to wine and dine.
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Thought you were near Venice Beach? No?
 
CallMeKate said:
Could you explain what you meant here, Robb? I'm in the middle of "small town America" and I assure you everything is open and usually packed, starting with bars and taverns. The only closings were happening at the height of all the mandates in late spring 2020 and some lasting into summer of 2021... but after that everything was open. Did you mean "closing" as in having to close permanently because of income loss from the pandemic?
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What I am referring to are not the many sidewalk cafes and clubs where tourists and meetups go for excitement or to find a date. I am referring to local, neighborhood bars where people who worked in the same plant or lived in the same neighborhood would go for a beer, play a little pool or darts, watch a football or baseball game on a big screen, or to just chat about local gossip or news. Places like this you'd find on quiet streets or corners. These are not the ones you find in 'districts' of the clubs and restaurants. The entertainment districts and local neighborhoods serve two different groups of people. Usually you could walk to your local watering hole, but you'd have to drive to an entertainment area.
 

jimintoronto said:
The Canadian military had regular "church parades " BUT before the members went into the church, the order was "fall out, the non believers ", which covered anyone who was not a Christian. I was one of that group. A different country, with a different point of view about religious things. In Canada, religion is a private thing, and most people keep their views to themselves. JimB.
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It was different on the Haida. You were either Protestant or Catholic and that was it. And someone always made sure you got out of your hammock on Sunday in order to attend the services, like it or not.
 
Nathan said:
My post was complete, it pointed out what I intended to address. Your assumption that I purposefully omitted material was just that, an assumption lacking in forethought and rife with emotional baggage.
BTW, my source was simply: Woke - Wikipedia, read it to your hearts content.
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No problem Nathan, I believe you. However woke is the modern plague and trashing sanity.

Why ‘woke’ became toxic
 
Robb.hisself said:
What I am referring to are not the many sidewalk cafes and clubs where tourists and meetups go for excitement or to find a date. I am referring to local, neighborhood bars where people who worked in the same plant or lived in the same neighborhood would go for a beer, play a little pool or darts, watch a football or baseball game on a big screen, or to just chat about local gossip or news. Places like this you'd find on quiet streets or corners.
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Yes... and like I said, we still have plenty of those, even in my small town. Not by any stretch an "entertainment area" around here... no clubs, no sidewalk cafes. Neighborhood bars aplenty, exactly as you described. We have pool tourneys and dart tourneys and karoke... we have big screen and "everybody knows your name" when you go in for a beer or local gossip.
 
Old Salt said:
No, I assure you @Remy I was being sincere! What you are being asked to do is just plain ridiculous, I would even call it sadistic if I didn't recognize "Bureaucracy run wild" behind it all!
On second thought, I was being sarcastic but not with you but about the people who would okay and issue such horrendous paper work!
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Thanks @Old Salt I was lamenting to the one co-worker I trust that we can't just come in and do our jobs. We don't have the physical things we need so we run around getting them and we don't have administration support when we need something. It's always worry.
 
CallMeKate said:
Yes... and like I said, we still have plenty of those, even in my small town. Not by any stretch an "entertainment area" around here... no clubs, no sidewalk cafes. Neighborhood bars aplenty, exactly as you described. We have pool tourneys and dart tourneys and karoke... we have big screen and "everybody knows your name" when you go in for a beer or local gossip.
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We have churches and a nearly dead community center....dry county.
 
Old Salt said:
It was different on the Haida. You were either Protestant or Catholic and that was it. And someone always made sure you got out of your hammock on Sunday in order to attend the services, like it or not.
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And that was about 50 years ago, right ? Things have changed. JimB.
 
Avon said:
woke is the modern plague and trashing sanity.
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I don't even know what the term 'woke' means. I don't watch TV or movies or read newspapers because of my affliction.

But it seems to me to be a situation where you are full of false revisionist guilt about something or another.
 
Robb.hisself said:
There are no neighborhood bars or taverns. What you are talking about are entertainment districts filled with loud, musical clubs and restaurants. I used to go to my local bar after dinner at night to chat with the boys or watch a game. There I'd rub shoulders with others who worked at the plant just like me or lived just down the street. Places like this don't attract the tourists or dating couples out to wine and dine.
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Man you are so wrong on so many points about the city where I live. A 5 minute walk from my house, is St Clair Avenue, one of the main streets in Toronto. In a 3 block walk along St Clair, I will pass an Italian social club, a Jamaican jerk food place, a Greek Family recreation center, 6 banks, A McDonalds, a Tim Horten's, a Popeye's, a Church's Chicken and a place that serves Russian food, and 4 licensed bars, each of which attracts a particular ethnic group. You need to get out more. JimB.
 
I disagree that name-calling is the problem. Self-victimization is the problem - people pretending to be sensitive so they can portray themselves as victims to get the attention they crave, and the "likes" and views and followers they need on all their social platforms. And then all their followers can virtue-signal and pretend to be Social Justice Warriors so THEY can get all the "likes" and views and followers they need on all THEIR social platforms.

And this cacophony of whining narcissistic pretense spreads like a freaking super-virus while true victims of social injustice become a silent mist that fades in the background until you can't even see or hear them anymore.
 
Murrmurr said:
I disagree that name-calling is the problem. Self-victimization is the problem - people pretending to be sensitive so they can portray themselves as victims to get the attention they crave, and the "likes" and views and followers they need on all their social platforms. And then all their followers can virtue-signal and pretend to be Social Justice Warriors so THEY can get all the "likes" and views and followers they need on all THEIR social platforms.

And this cacophony of whining narcissistic pretense spreads like a freaking super-virus while true victims of social injustice become a silent mist that fades in the background until you can't even see or hear them anymore.
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@Murrmurr: I take back everything I said about name calling. It was an unfortunate example of what's wrong anyway, and I embrace and endorse wholeheartedly, 100%, everything you just wrote!
 
Flashing back to childhood, I can remember that nicknames were commonly assigned by peers owing to physical characteristics. If you wore eyeglasses, you were a “four eyes,” if orthodonture, you were tagged “metal mouth.” Short statured kids were called “shorty,” and those with extra poundage were “fatty.” Tall or skinny kids might be called “stretch.” If you had an unusual last name, that was often the source of your nickname. It was all intended as a tease, and the worst thing you could do was over-react to it, in which case teasing would progress to active torment by peers. Kids can be quite cruel if they see that something really bothers you. We had names for teachers, too, oh yes!

Filling out modern surveys and forms for racial, ethnic, or sexual designations often causes me to chuckle. “Preferred pronouns” is always a good one. Coming across a square to be checked if you identified as “gender fluid” also gave me the giggles as it brought into my mind the image of an amoeba, perhaps shape-shifting as it attacked researchers at an isolated arctic base…🙀
 
Avon said:
Spot on, welcome to the new woke UK.

Mind you, what a mind opener this is.
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Politics are forbidden here. Also, there are Canadians on this forum. Not respectful to bash our Prime Minister or our way of life. Part of this global forum’s mandate is to respect different countries/cultures. The opinions expressed in this video are not representative of the majority of Canadian’s views.
 
Shalimar said:
Politics are forbidden here. Also, there are Canadians on this forum. Not respectful to bash our Prime Minister or our way of life. Part of this global forum’s mandate is to respect different countries/cultures. The opinions expressed in this video are not representative of the majority of Canadian’s views.
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Yes, that is how Woke works. Stifle conversation with concealed threats and alleged perceived hurt.
 
Avon said:
Yes, that is how Woke works. Stifle conversation with concealed threats and alleged perceived hurt.
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No, that's how this forum works. We voted and the majority chose a No Politics rule. The rules are clearly stated.

It has nothing to do with being woke, we simply don't want a community that emphasizes and increases divisiveness.

There are ample opportunities to discuss politics on the web and in real life. Including other forums. Please don't bring it here.
 
StarSong said:
No, that's how this forum works. We voted and the majority chose a No Politics rule. The rules are clearly stated.

It has nothing to do with being woke, we simply don't want a community that emphasizes and increases divisiveness.

There are ample opportunities to discuss politics on the web and in real life. Including other forums. Please don't bring it here.
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Just because we’re outraged by one serious problem in society doesn’t mean we have to turn our filter off and become outraged by everything we see online, no questions asked, no fact-checking done; our filter bubbles make all of this a lot worse, of course. Which does not make Woke political.
 
Avon said:
Just because we’re outraged by one serious problem in society doesn’t mean we have to turn our filter off and become outraged by everything we see online, no questions asked, no fact-checking done; our filter bubbles make all of this a lot worse, of course. Which does not make Woke political.
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Why are you presuming we turn off our filters and become outraged by everything we see, no questions asked, no fact checking done, simply because we opt for SF to be a politics-free zone?

Wokeness, and a lack thereof, is hardly politics-free, as demonstrated by the video you posted above.
 
There is a phrase that goes something like, "One person's garbage is another person's treasure." The term "woke" is not independent from a person's view. This can be said about anything, and most often, whatever "it" is, can and does become divisive. Anything. It IS human history, and isn't going away no matter how hard we try. The sad part is, we can't fix anything unless we agree on a course of collective action. "A house divided against itself can't stand."?
 
StarSong said:
Why are you presuming we turn off our filters and become outraged by everything we see, no questions asked, no fact checking done, simply because we opt for SF to be a politics-free zone?

Wokeness, and a lack thereof, is hardly politics-free, as demonstrated by the video you posted above.
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There are many threads on here that I could suggest have political overtones to suit its agenda, that is the nature of the beast. However, Woke tries to influence politics rather than being political.
 
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