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Yes, Capitalism kills and Communism kills also. To me it seems that both are only two sides of a coin. In fact it is greed. Communists are as greedy as capitalists, but the communists stick to their criminal idiology. Stalin's gulags prove it.
 

Yes, Capitalism kills and Communism kills also. To me it seems that both are only two sides of a coin. In fact it is greed. Communists are as greedy as capitalists, but the communists stick to their criminal idiology. Stalin's gulags prove it.
While both capitalist and communist systems have been associated with harmful outcomes, it's an oversimplification to label either as inherently criminal. The reality is more complex, with positive and negative aspects to both systems. The focus should be on creating economic systems that prioritize human well-being, social justice, and environmental sustainability, regardless of the ideological label.
 
While both capitalist and communist systems have been associated with harmful outcomes, it's an oversimplification to label either as inherently criminal. The reality is more complex, with positive and negative aspects to both systems. The focus should be on creating economic systems that prioritize human well-being, social justice, and environmental sustainability, regardless of the ideological label.
You are right, but I don't think that both of us will be living if this becomes true, if it ever happens.
 

While both capitalist and communist systems have been associated with harmful outcomes, it's an oversimplification to label either as inherently criminal. The reality is more complex, with positive and negative aspects to both systems. The focus should be on creating economic systems that prioritize human well-being, social justice, and environmental sustainability, regardless of the ideological label.
Perhaps you could enlighten me as to the positive aspects of the communist system. Since 1917, communism has been a sure-fire recipe for oppression, misery, starvation and war. Compare South Korea and North Korea, if you will, or the contrasts between East and West Germany. No oversimplification here, just a stark contrast between the benefits of democratic capitalism and the horrors of communist dictatorship. Millions upon millions dead under Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the various idiots running North Korea, Castros, Maduros and other evildoers.
BTW your little video about the evils of capitalism is errant nonsense and has been thoroughly debunked elsewhere.
 
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Perhaps you could enlighten me as to the positive aspects of the communist system. Since 1917, communism has been a sure-fire recipe for oppression, misery, starvation and war. Compare South Korea and North Korea, if you will, or the contrasts between East and West Germany. No oversimplification here, just a stark contrast between the benefits of democratic capitalism and the horrors of communist dictatorship. Millions upon millions dead under Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the various idiots running North Korea, Castros, Maduros and other evildoers.

BTW your little video about the evils of capitalism is errant nonsense and has been thoroughly debunked elsewhere.
The UN/League of Nations was founded about a century ago to end all wars and 100 years later I don't see that happening. In part because there so many different peoples, cultures, politics, geography etc.

For lack of better word the diverse nature of human existence makes finding common ground that much more difficult. Throw in some psych jobs with power 'peace' is not and will not be easy to achieve as it was proposed 100 years ago.
 
Did the JW's believe that???
Their Governing body had strongly suggested that 1975 would lead to Armageddon and to the establishment of God's Kingdom rule on Earth which was to be slowly transformed into a paradise. Many JWs lives were affected as houses were sold, career opportunities via education were neglected, and they dedicated their time to earning salvation via preaching and attending meetings. By the time the date arrived, I had seen enough and familiarized myself with their history of failed prophesies sufficiently to avoid being hoodwinked. But when I first heard it, I was convinced of its certainty. Membership numbers fell drastically after that prediction failed.
 
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Yes, Capitalism kills and Communism kills also. To me it seems that both are only two sides of a coin. In fact it is greed. Communists are as greedy as capitalists, but the communists stick to their criminal idiology. Stalin's gulags prove it.
If you lived under a truly communistic system (North Korea or Cuba are about the only ones left) you would have neither a computer nor the freedom to voice your opinions. China and Vietnam have adopted capitalism while retaining some communistic traits. Russia is sui generis. Then there are a few other thriving places such as Nicaragua and Venezuela.

We can all argue the merits of more or less regulation or better and broader safety nets. We all want these things to some extent. No one, I hope, wants government ownership of the means of production, which is what "pure" socialism/communism is.
 
"Communism and socialism are economic systems in which people are treated as members of a group rather than as unique individuals. Collectivism is the foundation of both of these systems. Under collectivism, an individual is seen as an expendable part of a group. The rights of the group are supreme, and the rights of the individual are subordinate."

- Burton Folsom Jr., "The Myth of the Robber Barons"
 
I agree with what you've said, but what do you think is going to happen as the planet warms up and southern countries begin to have problems with supporting crops and water loss? And those issues are coming. Maybe not in the next 40 or 60 years, but it will come.

Hello, Debrah N.

There are still climate deniers out there, while mean time change is going on all around us. The UK has a reputation of being misty, grey, wet, and cold. When I was a child, it was just like that! I can well remember having to to walk in fogs so thick, you literally could not see ten feet in front of you. Those were the days.

Now? We barely get a winter. The summers have days, and sometimes a week, of unbearable heat. We get rainy days, but we don't often get consecutive days of constant rain. Those fogs just don't happen here anymore. Nyangai Island, Sierra Leone was once home to villages and people, but due to rising sea levels, it is now gone. Too many people aren't paying attention because, well, who cares what's happening in Sierra Leone?

So yes, you're correct. I've personally seen climate change in my life time. People get hooked up on the causes, and that's all well and good, but at the end of the day, it's the effects that are going to get us.
 
Hello, Debrah N.

There are still climate deniers out there, while mean time change is going on all around us. The UK has a reputation of being misty, grey, wet, and cold. When I was a child, it was just like that! I can well remember having to to walk in fogs so thick, you literally could not see ten feet in front of you. Those were the days.

Now? We barely get a winter. The summers have days, and sometimes a week, of unbearable heat. We get rainy days, but we don't often get consecutive days of constant rain. Those fogs just don't happen here anymore. Nyangai Island, Sierra Leone was once home to villages and people, but due to rising sea levels, it is now gone. Too many people aren't paying attention because, well, who cares what's happening in Sierra Leone?

So yes, you're correct. I've personally seen climate change in my life time. People get hooked up on the causes, and that's all well and good, but at the end of the day, it's the effects that are going to get us.
I think most of us can remember extremely different weather in some areas, back when we were kids. I grew up in British Columbia and there you could count on the rain starting at the beginning of November and not letting up (except for the odd day or two, here or there) until the end of March, maybe April.....and now, falls and winters see large stretches of dry weather and reservoir levels dropping. With glaciers melting faster each year, I think Canada's reputation as a country with lots of water, is going to drop dramatically in the years to come.
 
ALL powerful countries, no matter what their form of government have been responsible for billions of deaths. There is plenty of evidence that capitalism has killed billions of people in other countries in it's aggressions. The same is true for Communist aggressions. So the comparison shows us that we still are motivated by competition,. Maybe we will learn someday that cooperation works much better than war.
56 minutes to learn the truth.

Maybe we'll learn someday .......but what total catastrophe will it take to get that lesson through our thick skulls? Personally, I think it's more likely that we annihilate ourselves before we figure it out as a group.
 
Typical whataboutism. Hard to compare an incompetent incursion into Cuba with an all out invasion by North Korea leading to 3 million deaths. And comparing Western capitalism to Communist dictatorship (or Islamic dictatorship) is like comparing apples to dog poop.
I'm curious what you mean about an incompetent incursion into Cuba. Isn't it possible that the Cuban's had such a powerful and vested interest in pushing the enemy out, that they prevailed?

Years ago I also found a website that sets the number of deaths caused by American hegemony at around 20-30 million. Now that's just America, then there's the UK, Canada, France, etc. to take into account. And to dismiss them like they don't count or are only as much as Stalin's 20 million dead, isn't reasonable. And when you start coupling that kind of violence with allowing Western corporations to take over the rebuilding, then you begin to really understand the impact of our capitalism on those other cultures.

Like when Iraq was blown to smithereens, hundreds of thousands of lives lost infrastructure destroyed, that means $billions going to Western military industrial complexes for all those armaments and then $billions going to Western contractors to rebuild. Just more effort to support corporations in their endless thirst for profit? Is that why we have wars? How many of the world's politicians are heavy investors in the war machine.....and then the rebuilding industries? Cause and effect, by design. All perhaps, more reason that we'll never see peace on this planet.
 
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I forgot the two great inventions that came from Communist countries: The AK-47 rifle and the rocket propelled grenade (RPG). Can't think of anything else in the last 80 years or so. The Internet? Polio vaccine? Pop-Tarts? Cell phones? I'll keep working on it.
 
I forgot the two great inventions that came from Communist countries: The AK-47 rifle and the rocket propelled grenade (RPG). Can't think of anything else in the last 80 years or so. The Internet? Polio vaccine? Pop-Tarts? Cell phones? I'll keep working on it.
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I think most of us can remember extremely different weather in some areas, back when we were kids. I grew up in British Columbia and there you could count on the rain starting at the beginning of November and not letting up (except for the odd day or two, here or there) until the end of March, maybe April.....and now, falls and winters see large stretches of dry weather and reservoir levels dropping. With glaciers melting faster each year, I think Canada's reputation as a country with lots of water, is going to drop dramatically in the years to come.
Maybe all the clear cut logging is having something to do with it. I was just reading where Canadian companies are clear cutting big areas desite so called sustainability rules.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/canada-forests-climate/

Yet research shows Canadian forests have seen some of the world’s largest declines in ecologically critical primary and old-growth woodlands over the last two decades, even as sustainability-certification programs grew to include nearly all of Canada’s logging.
 
Maybe all the clear cut logging is having something to do with it. I was just reading where Canadian companies are clear cutting big areas desite so called sustainability rules.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/canada-forests-climate/
While the logging is truly a big issue and leads to a lot of the landslides that BC has experienced, I'm not sure about the rain patterns. And I have to retract my previous statement (sort of) about lessening rain because I came across a BC page that shows that each century, rain has increased.

So I'm wondering if in the case of that province, it's a change in where the rain actually falls, not so much on the lower Mainland as previously but it's coming down in other areas.
https://www.env.gov.bc.ca/soe/indicators/climate-change/precip.html

Also I looked at your page Brookswood and it is shocking that one more time, Canada is shown to be good at 'talk' but not so good at 'action'. Last year, a call to action came across my Facebook page, indicating that the loss of a lot of our old growth forest was due to trees being burned as pellets, to produce electricity in the UK. So when you see 'biomass producing electricity', that's what they're often talking about. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/wood-pellets-bc-forests-green-energy-1.6606921. So with our need for forests to take carbon out of the air, we're cutting them down to burn and add carbon back into the air???
 
I forgot the two great inventions that came from Communist countries: The AK-47 rifle and the rocket propelled grenade (RPG). Can't think of anything else in the last 80 years or so. The Internet? Polio vaccine? Pop-Tarts? Cell phones? I'll keep working on it.
I don't think anyone is arguing that a lot of great inventions haven't come out of 'the West' and capitalism. What we need to consider is what has that capitalism done all told, for individuals, especially lately? As we think about the growing numbers of people that are having to rely on food banks or are living homeless or young people who can no longer afford to have a home/car/pay for tuition.....while CEO's in all the industries are getting $multi-million dollar bonuses on top of hundreds of millions in their pay-packages????

For a few years, thanks to unions, the (middle class) left the pauper/peasant life behind, but then something changed again and now we're facing escalating costs that aren't being met at all by the pay checks that don't go up. Capitalism has been wonderful for a few people at the top especially. And considering that the primary goal of any 'good' CEO is to cut costs, what will the rise of AI and automation do to those jobs and to the people that depend on them?
 
I don't think anyone is arguing that a lot of great inventions haven't come out of 'the West' and capitalism. What we need to consider is what has that capitalism done all told, for individuals, especially lately? As we think about the growing numbers of people that are having to rely on food banks or are living homeless or young people who can no longer afford to have a home/car/pay for tuition.....while CEO's in all the industries are getting $multi-million dollar bonuses on top of hundreds of millions in their pay-packages????

For a few years, thanks to unions, the (middle class) left the pauper/peasant life behind, but then something changed again and now we're facing escalating costs that aren't being met at all by the pay checks that don't go up. Capitalism has been wonderful for a few people at the top especially. And considering that the primary goal of any 'good' CEO is to cut costs, what will the rise of AI and automation do to those jobs and to the people that depend on them?

No economic system is good or bad per se. From a practical standpoint, capitalism provides more people with greater prosperity than other systems; that's just an incontrovertible fact. That doesn't mean we can't work on problems related to housing, inequality, mental illness and other concerns.
 
No economic system is good or bad per se. From a practical standpoint, capitalism provides more people with greater prosperity than other systems; that's just an incontrovertible fact. That doesn't mean we can't work on problems related to housing, inequality, mental illness and other concerns.
I think capitalism needs to have some restrictions though or should have had to prevent the situation we're facing today. I watched a short video talking about how the rental situation has been exacerbated by investment groups who've bought up whole apartment blocks, renovated them and then re-rented at rates so high that the lower income folks can't afford them any longer. Sure, people need investment income or whatever, but seriously, should they be allowed to buy all the rental stock and prevent seniors, students and lower income people from having a place to live?
 


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