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I have no doubt that wife and I will go to Heaven. We will see her son and daughter their and we will see each other there. It will be great to spend Eternity with each other! That's our belief.
 

Not a christian and I have no idea what happens after we die, but I like the Simpson's idea of the catholic heaven - lots of beer and River Dance.
 
Well, If there IS a Heaven... it's pretty obvious we will not have our bodies.. Much of how people try to imagine heaven involves things done with bodies.. even seeing and recognizing people you knew in life. So If you take the "body" out of the mix.. how would Heaven be?
 

QuickSilver said:
Well, If there IS a Heaven... it's pretty obvious we will not have our bodies.. Much of how people try to imagine heaven involves things done with bodies.. even seeing and recognizing people you knew in life. So If you take the "body" out of the mix.. how would Heaven be?
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Very true.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
:lofl: @ Sifuphil

Lon, do you own research about that the Bible says about Heaven and Hell.
Start with the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. Then do some introspection.
That's why the stories are there in the first place.
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I was really more interested in knowing what Christians think than in researching the Bible.
 
Christians think: 1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV - For now we see through a glass ...For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
 
1 Corinthians 13, part of a letter written to the church in Corinth by St Paul the Apostle.

It contains the familiar words "Love is patient, love is kind" that are often read out during marriage ceremonies and ends with some advice about becoming more mature in faith and thought patterns. It speaks of uncertainty and of something rock solid - namely love.

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child.
When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. [SUP]
[/SUP]For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face.
Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love.
But the greatest of these is love.

NIV version
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IMO, speculation about Heaven and Hell is childish thinking and needs to be put to one side. Our thoughts and energy need to be devoted to building lives that have love as the foundation. Love is stronger than faith and hope put together.

At least, that is what this Christian thinks.

PS Thanks, Drifter, for reminding me what it is really all about.
 
QuickSilver said:
I don't believe in heaven.. I DO believe in a place where souls go to get ready for their next life. I also believe people are reincarnated in pods.. Or groups.. Your mother may be your son in your next life.. your son may be your grandfather.... and so on.. depending what has been arranged to be learned from one another in the next reincarnation, as I believe you pick the life you have each time.. depending on what ou need to learn from it.
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That's exactly what I think happens too.
 
[Christians think: 1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV - For now we see through a glass ...For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.]

QuickSilver said:
say Wha??!!
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That means, you'll figure it out or understand completely when you get there.

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And Dame Warrigal, I think you give short shrift to the thoughts of children when you say: 'IMO, speculation about Heaven and Hell is childish thinking and needs to be put to one side. Our thoughts and energy need to be devoted to building lives that have love as the foundation. Love is stronger than faith and hope put together.'


and I only say this because, Matthew 21:16: 'New International Version
"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you, Lord, have called forth your praise'?"

Somebody cared about what the children (think) and say. In fact didn't he also say (Matthew 18:3) that we should 'change and become as little children so that we can enter the kingdom of heaven'?

So continue to think childishly folks about the heaven and hell folks because after all, children don't put limitations on their thoughts. To them everything is possible! At least until they grow up and we've taught them 'colour inside the lines'. Besides children with their childish thoughts usually 'love' without bias until we adults teach them otherwise.
 
Debby said:
[Christians think: 1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV - For now we see through a glass ...For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.]






That means, you'll figure it out when you get there.
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Sheeeeesh... They why don't they just say that.. lol!!
 
Debby said:
[Christians think: 1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV - For now we see through a glass ...For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.]

That means, you'll figure it out or understand completely when you get there.

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And Dame Warrigal, I think you give short shrift to the thoughts of children when you say: 'IMO, speculation about Heaven and Hell is childish thinking and needs to be put to one side. Our thoughts and energy need to be devoted to building lives that have love as the foundation. Love is stronger than faith and hope put together.'


and I only say this because, Matthew 21:16: 'New International Version
"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you, Lord, have called forth your praise'?"

Somebody cared about what the children (think) and say. In fact didn't he also say (Matthew 18:3) that we should 'change and become as little children so that we can enter the kingdom of heaven'?

So continue to think childishly folks about the heaven and hell folks because after all, children don't put limitations on their thoughts. To them everything is possible! At least until they grow up and we've taught them 'colour inside the lines'. Besides children with their childish thoughts usually 'love' without bias until we adults teach them otherwise.
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Point taken, Debbie, but I was saying that now that we are mature adults we should not still rely on our childish understandings of the world. When I was about 13 I was incensed by the injustice I saw in some of the Old Testament stories of the battles fought by Joshua and the way the vanquished were treated. I was very naïve and had no idea of the atrocities perpetrated in real wars.

Because I had no idea how the Bible came about I just decided that the story was about a god that authorised cruelty and violence so I switched off completely. My mum did the same over Jonah and the Whale. Neither of us understood what we were reading for lack of context and historical understanding. Lots of people are saying that as children they decided that the Bible is nonsensical, a fairy tale to be easily dismissed. St Paul, writing to the Corinthians, is urging them to grow up and focus on the really important issues. He suggests that these issues are faith, hope and love which must be put into action.
 
Christians believe wholly on the written word of God Period. The Bible is not stories....it is the life of Christ. The OT points to the NT. And Jesus Christ. The book of Proverbs is an instruction book on how to live life in accordance with God and His Word. Nothing false or phony about it. The John MacArthur Study Bible is the Best Bible to start with if anyone wants to really know about the Lord and Life.


"Nothing lasts expect the Grace of God by which I stand in Jesus" Written and sung by Steve Green
 
lovemylittleboy said:
Christians believe wholly on the written word of God Period. The Bible is not stories....it is the life of Christ. The OT points to the NT. And Jesus Christ. The book of Proverbs is an instruction book on how to live life in accordance with God and His Word. Nothing false or phony about it. The John MacArthur Study Bible is the Best Bible to start with if anyone wants to really know about the Lord and Life.


"Nothing lasts expect the Grace of God by which I stand in Jesus" Written and sung by Steve Green
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May I ask WHO determined which books were to be included in the Bible.. ans WHO decided it was the Word of God?
 
lovemylittleboy said:
Christians believe wholly on the written word of God Period.
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I'm sorry, lovemylittleboy, but this statement is overreach. There are many followers of Christ, myself included, who are not biblical literalists. That does not mean that I dismiss or disrespect the Scriptures. Christianity, as they say, is a very broad church.
 

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