Run-in with a jerk
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senior chef
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Not making any such comparison at all. The comparison is about the emotional issues if I just knuckled under and became a victim and the emotional trauma of a rape victim. For a man, to bend over and take abuse from another man is tantamount to being xxx.
Um....well......OK. A therapist might help.
Shero
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senior chef
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You probably think that is pretty cute. I don't see any humor in it. I make no apologies for being a man.
Nice editing job, by the way.
senior chef
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If a man does not "bend over" to another man, he does not need therapy. He is self contained.
If, however, he DOES "bend over", then he surely does need therapy.
Hey man. I never bend over to any man. NOBODY messes with me!
I'm so tough, I don't even have to read a book. I just stare at it until it gives me the information I want.
I do 600 push ups every morning. I don't lift myself up - I push the earth down.
Ya know how I make my coffee? I grind the beans with my teeth & boil the water with my rage.
I bet ya can't beat that!
senior chef
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If, as you say, you never "bend over" to any man, then you should have no problem with what I have said.
Warrigal
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Well, I have a problem with you looking to start a fight in a public bus.
Other passengers could get hurt. Fights should always be taken outside.
Other passengers could get hurt. Fights should always be taken outside.
terry123
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I am with you on this one.
and that's where it is these days
Young folks are lacking
Too much permissive BS
Seems they're feeling for the edge, because it's just not there for 'em
I'll show 'em where it's at
I've shown the way many times
This ol' dawg ain't gonna roll over and play dead
Not now
Not ever
Murrmurr
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I'm an averaged sized man and I only look kind of tough when I'm wearing my knit hat, but I was that scrappy kid who didn't care how big or bad the other kid was, I refused to be bullied. I'm still that kid. It isn't worth my time if some arsewipe cuts me off in traffic or some petty crap like that - go ahead, dude, enjoy your karma - but coming across some punk who thinks he'd like to bully me? Nah. He'll be rethinking that.
Well, ya see, "Senior Chef" ain't got yer look. Or your style.
jujube
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I'm waiting for the part where everyone on the bus rose to their feet and gave him a 20-minute standing ovation for his heroic performance........
Aunt Bea
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It may be the norm but if I was the one responsible for the obstruction I would make an effort to accommodate anyone that took issue with it.
It just seems like the right/logical thing to do.
Judycat
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All he did was stand up to him. The guy grabbed his damn cart and was putting his face in his space. Nobody needs that even on a good day. People have become a bunch of lame-asses in this country. All I ever heard growing up was stand up for yourself. Kid was making trouble and needed to be taken down a notch as I expect someone else would do if I tried that s**t.
Shero
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Scenario:
Bus travelling nothing happens until car coming from other direction slams into bus.
On bus are old people with walking sticks, pregnant woman, young children.
Hell breaks loose when gasoline is smelt, fire in back of bus.
People desperately try to get off bus but cannot reach the door, because door is obstructed!!
Several injured and two old people died in the fire of the bus
Bus travelling nothing happens until car coming from other direction slams into bus.
On bus are old people with walking sticks, pregnant woman, young children.
Hell breaks loose when gasoline is smelt, fire in back of bus.
People desperately try to get off bus but cannot reach the door, because door is obstructed!!
Several injured and two old people died in the fire of the bus
feywon
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True, not to mention somewhat offensive to rape victims of both genders and all ages. However, at 75 with my own sexual assault some 55+ yrs in the past, it's not worth my energy or ruining my mood to take offense at such ill conceived remarks (at least not for myself--if it was said in presence of someone i knew was a recent rape victim i'd likely go ballistic on the speaker's ass). While it impacted my wariness of certain types of men (who BTW come from all demographic and economic classes) and to be hyper aware of my environment, it also gave me an edge, a resolve that allowed me to ward off other men who wanted to force me--to do anything really.
It sort of seems the whole point this post was a good deal of chest thumping-- "See what a macho man i am." Maybe needing confirmation from others in his age bracket that he did well? And maybe a bit of having it both ways--the OP gets sympathy from some (tho not as many as he would like) for having been 'accosted' by this jerk, but also, at least in his own mind, gets some admiration for the way he literally 'stood up' to the guy.
Actually a better tactic would have been to loudly say "I'm sorry, you look like such a fit young man I didn't realize you had some infirmity that makes turning sideways as others do impossible for you." and move the cart (either with great ease demonstrating your fitness or struggling so he looks like even more of jerk to everyone around for making you move it). If the guy was just being a total jerk that's going to make it a lot harder for him to cast himself in a good light when he thinks about it later or if he recounts the incident to others--because he either has to admit he was too lazy to turn sideways or that he was trying to bully an old man (no offense to Senor Chef--but that's the spin he himself put on the incident that this young man challenged him because he perceived SC as an 'old man'.)--Yeah that takes a lot of cojones--bullying any old person. Even 'thugs' as SC also called this guy realize that doesn't make them look tough.
feywon
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Doubt it, people with self-images like Senor Chef presents do not acknowledge there is anything wrong with their world view. They assume their perceptions are accurate and everyone else is deluded.
Alligatorob
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Wow, you got lots of reactions here.
I agree the guy was a jerk, but it seems like it would not have taken much to defuse the thing. A lot of times it is best to just try to avoid jerks, confronting them accomplishes little.
I have to argue that a bit
A lot of young folk need some redirection
They're screaming for it
They press an issue, any issue, to test the water
Because, for too long now, they've had no foundation
My heart goes out to these 'jerks'
I won't let them have their way
Because they don't even know what that way is
They are our future
If I can make 'em think twice before they pull some shit, my job is done
I have made many a young friend from one time jerks
Know what's fun?
Jerking a knot in their tail
Then
Grabbing 'em, and giving 'em a hug
That....accomplishes little
Alligatorob
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Gary, I understand what you are saying and see the logic. Particularly in the right setting and if the "jerk" is friend or family. But with a stranger on a crowded but I am am not so sure.
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