Sports fans behaving badly stealing, forcing their way to get souvenirs in the stands

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Sports fans have been behaving badly-again. Seems to be a rash of zealous fans stealing or forcing their way to souvenirs from the field of play/athletes that wind up in the stands.

Most recently a Philadelphia Phillies described as a Karen felt entitled to a ball that wound up in the stands.

Phillies Fan Causes Uproar After Demanding Home Run Ball from Father and Son

Then at the US Open a corporate CEO stole a hat caught by kid thrown by a player.

Polish CEO Finally Apologizes For Snatching Boy's Hat at U.S. Open

I think in both cases the player involved wound up give the kid some special souviners.

And here I thought the sports memorabilia market was dying.
 

I think the behavior of the fans in the stadiums today is truly a disgrace. Anything like fights, or that woman demanding the ball from the father in Philly, etc. should be mandated as immediate ejection from games for life.

Happily both children involved made out just fine. Especially the youngster in Philadelphia. The lad at the U.S. Open did all right as well. But the trauma of the incident when it happened will be hard for those children to forget.
 
Philadelphia sports fans have always had a bad rep. The old Veterans' Stadium 700 section was notorious for fans looking to beat up guys, who might not fight back hard. I saw them track down a guy and beat the hell out of him-just for fun. The crowds have always been unruly. The Stadium was the first to have an on site law court with a
real judge to take care of the rowdy fans.
 

I talked to my brother about what would happen if one of us caught Yankee Aaron Judge's record home run ball last year.

I told bro I just would have just given the ball back to Judge and said..."This story is about you, not me."

My brother wholeheartedly agreed and said he would have done the same. Neither me nor my bro are wealthy...just brought up to feel it would be the right thing to do.
 
The video of the lady taking the ball from the kid went viral, I would imagine. It came up on my phone not long after it happened. One of my old military friends was at the game. I asked him if they put her up on the big screen in the park, but he didn’t know.
 
When I've been to one of the stadiums, and a foul ball came barrelling in my direction, I would duck. No way would I attempt to catch a ball, foul or home run, hit by one of those big galoots with his bat. I'd be afraid it would take my hand right off my wrist.

Nor would I want to see a bat flying in my direction either. If I wanted a souvenir, I'd buy one.
 
Hearing a shift in opinion saying maybe the Karen did get to the ball first along with some trying to treat a scramble of surprise souvenir in the stands like a football game-who ever has possession coming out of a foul ball scramble/scrum gets it.
 
Enough already with the name Karen. I know you didn't start it, WhatinThe, but you don't seem to have any qualms about using it in a very insulting way either.

I happen to have a daughter named Karen. She has a lot of friends also named Karen. It was a very popular name for a baby born in the 1960's. And they are no better and no worse than people with any other name. Why on earth has their name been turned into an insult?

I could even understand it if there was a famous character in a book or a movie or TV show who acted obnoxious and privileged, and then someone turned their name into an insult. Or even a real person, well-known for doing bad stuff. But this Karen thing seems to have come out of the blue. And continuing to insult a perfectly innocent group of people is childish and hurtful.

BTW, my own Karen doesn't seem to care about it. She just ignores it. But it bothers me. And that stupid nonsense has been perpetuated far too long. Give it a rest, please!
 
WhatInThe said:
Hearing a shift in opinion saying maybe the Karen did get to the ball first along with some trying to treat a scramble of surprise souvenir in the stands like a football game-who ever has possession coming out of a foul ball scramble/scrum gets it.
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It fell right beside her. She reached down for it and the kid's dad ran past many seats to snatch it yep. It's all on the video. *But* there seems to be some unwritten "honor law" that says it belongs to the first person who touches it. Did she touch it? She WAS bent over to pick it up... but there was no camera that caught her touching it first to make a viral video. All people saw was that she went and got the ball back from a kid. 🤷‍♀️
 
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Enough already with the name Karen. I know you didn't start it, WhatinThe, but you don't seem to have any qualms about using it in a very insulting way either.

I happen to have a daughter named Karen. She has a lot of friends also named Karen. It was a very popular name for a baby born in the 1960's. And they are no better and no worse than people with any other name. Why on earth has their name been turned into an insult?

I could even understand it if there was a famous character in a book or a movie or TV show who acted obnoxious and privileged, and then someone turned their name into an insult. Or even a real person, well-known for doing bad stuff. But this Karen thing seems to have come out of the blue. And continuing to insult a perfectly innocent group of people is childish and hurtful.

BTW, my own Karen doesn't seem to care about it. She just ignores it. But it bothers me. And that stupid nonsense has been perpetuated far too long. Give it a rest, please!
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You're right, time to retire the whole "Karen" concept. Plus that was my first girlfriend's name, and she is a good person.

This idiocy over a baseball puzzles me. Is the baseball imbued with some sort of magic? I have a football signed by Bart Starr. It has not made me wiser or richer, as far as I know.
 
CallMeKate said:
I've heard that Blowout Cards offered the lady $5K if she'd write "I'm sorry" on it and give it back. So I guess it depends on whether or not you consider five thousand dollars "magic." Wonder if she'll do it?
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I do consider five thousand dollars for signing a card to be magic, and I would do it in a heartbeat.

Similarly, anyone willing to pay me five thousand dollars for my Bart Starr autographed football can have it.
 
In context Karen is not an insult to all those with the name just like when using John to talk about a bathroom or prostitute's customer. They both abbreviate a formal definition.
 
CallMeKate said:
It fell right beside her. She reached down for it and the kid's dad ran past many seats to snatch it yep. It's all on the video. *But* there seems to be some unwritten "honor law" that says it belongs to the first person who touches it. Did she touch it? She WAS bent over to pick it up... but there was no camera that caught her touching it first to make a viral video. All people saw was that she went and got the ball back from a kid. 🤷‍♀️
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Ditto! She bent over and was touching the ball trying to get it. This "dad" walks over 15 feet and takes it out of her hands. Maybe she had a kid with a birthday she was going to give it to, who knows? This guy was way out of line and a bad example for his son. The woman had every right to confront this thief that saw her struggling and took advantage.

The sad thing is most side with this dad, a thief, and against the lady. The dad would have never given it back if she was demanding it without justification. As usual in this climate of make the victim the perpetrator, the lady standing up for herself gets bad press and slandered. I hope the son watches the video and realizes his dad is a sorry piece of crap without principles.

The dad could have asked the lady if he could have it for his sons birthday. He didn't!
 
CallMeKate said:
I've heard that Blowout Cards offered the lady $5K if she'd write "I'm sorry" on it and give it back. So I guess it depends on whether or not you consider five thousand dollars "magic." Wonder if she'll do it?
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Why should she say I'm sorry when the ball was taken from her, just for $5K? I wouldn't if I was the victim. Sometime it is principal over money. I would never apologize or confess to a crime I didn't commit. The dad should apologize, but with social media making him a hero, he will just keep up his victimhood and how his son was wronged on his birthday. He will revel in his new found "being the better person" status that was assigned to him by idiots. Crap like this just makes me wanna puke.
 
CarolfromTX said:
Here’s the rule: the ball (or hat) always goes to the kid. Always. Phillie Karen has been excoriated on social media, so Karma’s a b***h.
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Yes that would be the polite cool thing to do but not mandatory. This isn't just fans battling for a souvenir there's money driving some of the most aggressive out there. A signed souvener/item has more value than a signed card in many areas.

Heard a sports guy say possession coming out of the scramble, pile what ever gets the ball. What's going to happen is stadiums and teams will have to start implementing somekind of ball in the stands rule. Basically it would be zero tolerance for any kind of fighting, altercations etc.
 
CarolfromTX said:
Here’s the rule: the ball (or hat) always goes to the kid. Always. Phillie Karen has been excoriated on social media, so Karma’s a b***h.
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So anyone who catches a ball at a game is required to give it to the nearest kid? That's a new one to me.

All these videos start right at the moment he takes the ball from the woman's hands. it goes by almost too fast to see. Now we have endless videos like this saying "this is why we all hate Karen," and "here comes Karen trying to steal the ball" when the man had stolen it from her.

I'm horrified by this kind of thing where reality is turned into something else altogether and a normal person is vilified, just fpr the pleasure of the irate populace who love to get together and hate someone. She is woman who has spent her life in a caring profession and wanted the ball for her own family.
 
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He doesn’t take it from her hands. He picked it up from the seat where it landed. She’s an entitled idiot. if you take the ball away from a kid, you’re selfish as well. Your video is AI generated. That simply did not happen that way. He never touched her.
 

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