Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade?

oldaunt said:
Probably for the same reason its any of YOUR business, and the percentage of such is pretty low. No one said THAT shouldn't qualify for a termination. But just because you don't want a kid, is NEVER a good reason to kill one.
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I had my kids. I'm post menopausal, obviously. And, No, it is not my business either who or who does not have and most especially WHY? The why's are up to each individual human mother.
 

Wontactmyage said:
Statistics of this is small. No one is stating there are not gray areas however to lay this all on “rape” is overstating. How many times have we seen women cry rape when it was consensual sex but had misgivings afterward. To save face or to not take responsibility for their indiscretion.
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I disagree; I firmly believe and always will that rape happens a lot more than reported (or believed); heck there are even some--including the Matthew Hale, a 17th Cent. jurist who supported marital rape and had women executed for being witches and who was quoted by Alito in the leaked Sup. Ct. stuff--who agree with the position of rape being statistically infrequent. I just don't understand why Justice Alito would do that: quote a guy who thought it was impossible for a husband to rape a wife and killed women for being "witches"? That is just so barbaric and hateful and it's sad that the human race is saddled with people like this in charge of people's fates. We are so doomed by this barbarism.
 
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Seeing as I don't have a uterus, I don't feel I'm really entitled to opinion on this issue, but I will put one out there any way. Many of the same people who are against a woman's right to decide, are the same ones spouting off about everyone trying to take away their freedoms. Be it the right to have assault weapons, or the right to mob violence, and so on, and are the first ones to denounce spending on care for these unwanted children, and all the social consequences that come with unwanted births.
 
officerripley said:
I disagree; I firmly believe and always will that rape happens a lot more than reported (or believed); heck there are even some--including the Matthew Hale, a 17th Cent. jurist who supported marital rape and had women executed for being witches and who was quoted by Alito in the leaked Sup. Ct. stuff--who agree with the position of rape being statistically infrequent. I just don't understand why Justice Alito would do that: quote a guy who thought it was impossible for a husband to rape a wife and killed women for being "witches"? That is just so barbaric and hateful and it's sad that the human race is saddled with people like this in charge of people's fates. We are so doomed by this barbarism.
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So you think that every woman that has sex was raped?
 
As Rebecca Solnit says in her book call Them by Their True Names: American Crises (and Essays):

"...[T]here's a widespread belief that women lie about being raped, not a few women, not an anomalous woman, but women in general. This framework comes from the assumption that reliability and credibility are as natural to men as mendacity and vindictiveness are to women. In other words, feminists just made it all up, because otherwise we'd have to question a really big story whose nickname is patriarchy. But the data confirms that people who come forward about being raped are, overall, telling the truth (and that rapists tend to lie, a lot)."
 
Geezer Garage said:
Seeing as I don't have a uterus, I don't feel I'm really entitled to opinion on this issue, but I will put one out there any way. Many of the same people who are against a woman's right to decide, are the same ones spouting off about everyone trying to take away their freedoms. Be it the right to have assault weapons, or the right to mob violence, and so on, and are the first ones to denounce spending on care for these unwanted children, and all the social consequences that come with unwanted births.
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Exactly! It's all about... C O N T R O L
 
New Justice Amy Comey Barrett was not on the Court when Certiorari was granted, so we will see how a final vote is, as it takes at least 4 Justices to grant it.
 
Warrigal said:
And if the father has scarpered, having no intention of supporting the pregnant woman?

Abortion would be much rarer if every woman was guaranteed support to raise and educate her children.
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It would also be very much rarer if sexually active women who don't want a child would just use birth control. There are MANY different ones to choose from, and many are given free. I am not against abortion for medical reasons, just as it is too often used as just another form of birth control. THAT is just lazy and ignorant.
 

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