Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade?

Food for thought...not going to debate that this has or hasn't anything to do with abortion, but it has been used successfully in some states where a pregnant woman has lost her child during a criminal act caused by another.

Please don't start in that it's only a Republican or religious thing.

Just read and think about it as it gives a different aspect about the unborn. I would hope that no matter what your abortion thoughts may be, you can have some compassion over the loss that the parents in these circumstances have gone through. Yes I said parents. IMHO, the father has rights too when it comes to his child.

It appears that more and more that no one gives a damn about anyone but themselves and/or their own ideas. No one wishes to have a civil conversation and just decide to agree to disagree. Is this what we really want to teach future generations is that you don't need to work things out, that you only need to take what ever action you deem necessary to get your way? It's my way or the highway? Mob rule and/or violence is no way to go which is what we have all seen over the past several years too many times.

Between the misinformation and the play on emotions stating slavery will return, women will be chattel w/o rights, women won't have medical care and et al. When this happens, I believe you start to loose support and validity on any issue you have, not just this one.

Just my reflection.


Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004
Legislative history
Codification
Citations
Great Seal of the United States
Long titleAn Act To amend title 18, United States Code, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice to protect unborn children from assault and murder, and for other purposes.
NicknamesLaci and Conner's Law
Enacted bythe 108th United States Congress
Public lawPub.L. 108–212 (text) (PDF)
Statutes at Large118 Stat. 568–570
Titles amended18, 10
U.S.C. sections created18 U.S.C. § 1841, 10 U.S.C. § 919a
 

You missed my point with all that hard thinking. Fact is every baby born was a fertilized egg and was viable.... I know the science better than you! Also, know God, better than you. You want to go for a 'third strike'?

I am not siding with anyone here but ......... How do we know that you know science better than anyone of us here ? As for you knowing god better than those of us here ..... How do you "know" something that has never been proven ?
 
The Republic of Ireland, being primarily Catholic , had strict anti-abortion laws until recently and it was illegal to travel to England to have a termination. Some years ago, following a referendum, the rules were relaxed considerably.
This left Northern Ireland still with strict anti-abortion laws, but this time driven by the Protestant DUP (D = dinosaur). When the N.I. assembly fell apart, N.I. was dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th. century (you can't rush these things) by the UK government and abortion became legal (within guidelines). This is still strongly opposed by the DUP, but I think they're in the minority where this is concerned.
 
You missed my point with all that hard thinking. Fact is every baby born was a fertilized egg and was viable.... I know the science better than you! Also, know God, better than you. You want to go for a 'third strike'?
I know science better than you. I know god better than you. I painted this picture of you. Big shot.
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Your superior for no reason attitude wore thin months ago. Cut it out already.
 
Thank God .... I think this nation has learned a hard lesson thanks to RBG.

The Supreme Court, once a highly venerated institution, has been turned into a political shell game.
At least 2 Dem presidents promised to codify Roe-v-Wade, and didn't...just never got around to it. (and i think a 3rd one did too, way earlier, but i'm not certain)

Also a hard lesson, I suppose.
 
It comes to mind that maybe the end of Roe v. Wade will stimulate the whole public conversation on reproductive responsibility. With Roe v. Wade protections the focus was on women[only] and what they could and should do about unwanted pregnancy. Now, maybe the debate will be more focused on men stepping up and being responsible as well.
 
The reality is that the SCOTUS was asked to the the work that should have been done by our elected representatives. But, they have been too lazy/scared/stupid to work out a compromise in regards to abortion. For 50 years they said anything and did almost nothing since SCOTUS mostly pre-empted them. IOW, they hid behind Roe vs. Wade while shooting off their mouths. Well, now the dog has finally caught the car and it's time to put-up or shut-up. And I mean both sides!

Each state will have to address the abortion issue. They will have to work it out, keeping in mind that the middle ground, where most people are, won't tolerate a total ban on abortion, or abortion of babies who could easily survive outside the womb. Those concerned can no longer scream to the Court, "Please make the other side go away. Whaaaa, whaaa, whaaa..." like a bunch of big babies.

Again, both sides need to grow up, work out a compromise. It's not that hard. Most European countries have already done so. That may be a good place to look for starters.
 
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Supreme Court only knows the law and their religious beliefs. The consequences don't matter to them at all. They are only lawyers. Know nothingabout ethics. Their decision is based on flimsy logic. Abortion is not mentioned in constitution is obvious. Most things aren't. By this simple minded thinking they are right. Lawyers are narrow minded this way. I am disgusted.
 
In 2009 I think was the last time.
Yes, you're right. And when it didn't happen in his 1st term, it was promised again in his 2nd.

I think if he'd found a way to include it in his Nat'l Healthcare or One-Payer plan, or whatever, then codifying Roe would've basically been automatic. Do you know if I'm wrong about that? (not that it matters at this point)
 
Didn’t I hear on a news show that the government was considering building abortion clinics on federal land such as federal parks in states that do not allow abortions?
 
The reality is that the SCOTUS was asked to the the work that should have been done by our elected representatives. But, they have been too lazy/scared/stupid to work out a compromise in regards to abortion. For 50 years they said anything and did almost nothing since SCOTUS mostly pre-empted them. IOW, they hid behind Roe vs. Wade while shooting off their mouths. Well, now the dog has finally caught the car and it's time to put-up or shut-up. And I mean both sides!

Each state will have to address the abortion issue. They will have to work it out, keeping in mind that the middle ground, where most people are, won't tolerate a total ban on abortion, or abortion of babies who could easily survive outside the womb. Those concerned can no longer scream to the Court "Please make the other side go away. Whaaaa, whaaa, whaaa..." like a bunch of big babies.

Again, both sides need to grow up, work out a compromise. It's not that hard. Most European countries have already done so. That may be a good place to look for starters.
A large part of the problem, in my opinion, is exactly that- it seems virtually everybody is radically on one side or the other, either demanding that abortions be prohibited in ALL circumstances, OR that it be legal even as far as "partial-birth."
 
A large part of the problem, in my opinion, is exactly that- it seems virtually everybody is radically on one side or the other, either demanding that abortions be prohibited in ALL circumstances, OR that it be legal even as far as "partial-birth."
No state can prohibit termination of a pregnancy that presents a serious health risk to mother and/or child, and none do.
 
Didn’t I hear on a news show that the government was considering building abortion clinics on federal land such as federal parks in states that do not allow abortions?
I don't believe you heard that. or. Can't believe you heard that! LOL
I heard something about this just yesterday and investigated. Apparently it was floated for a very short time, but dismissed immediately by the White House as completely unworkable for numerous reasons.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/28/politics/white-house-federal-lands-abortion/index.html
 

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