The 2nd amendment does not give people the right to bear arms.

You know calling people bat shit crazy and looney toons because they don't agree with you is pretty low. Do you feel as free as you were in the '70's? Because I sure don't and I'm living in the same area I was then so it isn't a difference between states. Maybe us bat shit loons are just a tad more observant and aware of what's going on than you. Maybe we're not burying our head in the sand. But one thing's for sure, we're not as free as we were 35 years ago. Neither my daughter nor my grandson can comprehend how free I was then and I find that scary.

Nope... I feel just as free as the 70's... and in many ways much more so.. Don't know what "RIGHTS" you have lost.. that I didn't... would you care to elaborate on which rights have been taken away from you ? And be specific please... none of that "I don't feel" crap... Give the specific rights you have lost.
 

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Sunset (blaze) the question asks if anyone has been there, not if someone else has been there, I haven't. I'm the ordinary guy with the gun! You haven't stayed current. The stuff I talked about is all over the web has been for 15 years. I was hoping to get some feedback from an operator. There is a whole bunch of us regular guys. Actually we are more free. Remember Kent state, felony charges for weed possession. oh please up yours, sounds like a Quote from a Robin Williams Peter Pan movie.
 
Some rights have been taken away, they deal the banking industry, and some that were lost in certain international agreements, specifically to into effect towards the end of the year. Most apply to specific groups of people, or groups of people doing specific things.
 
Put the popcorn away..... Odds are she can't come up with a thing... lol!! Just like every other "My RIGHT'S ARE BEING TAKEN!!" enthusiast.. when pressed... they got nothin'

I'll keep my popcorn and eat it too thank you. You wouldn't be trying to take my right away would you:playful::eek:nthego:
 
My right to ingest marijuana, cocaine, heroin, etc. as I see fit ... it was legal back at the beginning of the 20th century, but now I will be arrested if I use them. That right has been taken away.

My right to protect myself ... I was arrested for defending myself against 3 perps. That right has been taken away.

My right to travel unimpeded ... I have to submit to sobriety check-points. That right has been taken away.

My right to be proud of my race ... if I express that pride I am called racist. That right has been taken away.
 
My right to ingest marijuana, cocaine, heroin, etc. as I see fit ... it was legal back at the beginning of the 20th century, but now I will be arrested if I use them. That right has been taken away.

My right to protect myself ... I was arrested for defending myself against 3 perps. That right has been taken away.

My right to travel unimpeded ... I have to submit to sobriety check-points. That right has been taken away.

My right to be proud of my race ... if I express that pride I am called racist. That right has been taken away.

Oh my..... how awful for you... None seem like anything but protecting others.................from YOU.. lol!!
 
Well, I for one am not too worried about taking on the US Army. What I AM worried about is being sure I have a way to protect myself against some hoodlum breaking into my house in the middle of the night (or any other time for that matter). If, God forbid, that should ever happen, I'll sure be grateful for the 2nd Amendment and my .38. Until somebody can absolutely assure me that gun control restrictions will keep guns out of the hands of the bad guys (ha ha), I'll keep mine, and I'll keep it loaded.
 
Well, I for one am not too worried about taking on the US Army. What I AM worried about is being sure I have a way to protect myself against some hoodlum breaking into my house in the middle of the night (or any other time for that matter). If, God forbid, that should ever happen, I'll sure be grateful for the 2nd Amendment and my .38. Until somebody can absolutely assure me that gun control restrictions will keep guns out of the hands of the bad guys (ha ha), I'll keep mine, and I'll keep it loaded.

Right on Butterfly!! I am so with you!!
 
Well, you asked for examples and I gave them. I guess that either you're not serious about wanting to know about it, or you're just sticking your fingers in your ears while singing "LA-LA-LA-LA" ...


Yeah.... you gave examples... and NONE of them are good.. lol!!! Can you find any of them in the Constitution...

Do you have the RIGHT to drive stoned and kill someone?

Who says you cannot be proud of your race..?? Just because someone does not agree with you does NOT mean your rights are taken away..

Somehow I don't think we are getting the FULL story on your "self defense" issue either..

In essence... You have lost nothing.. Just the right to break the law..and be proud of it..
 
Yeah.... you gave examples... and NONE of them are good.. lol!!! Can you find any of them in the Constitution...

Yes, I can. The right to defend myself falls under the right to bear arms - the right for civilians acting on their own behalf to engage in a level of violence, called reasonable force or defensive force, for the sake of defending one's own life or the lives of others, including, in certain circumstances, the use of deadly force.

Do you have the RIGHT to drive stoned and kill someone?

I didn't say that I drove stoned. That's your assumption - a very poor one, at that.

Who says you cannot be proud of your race..?? Just because someone does not agree with you does NOT mean your rights are taken away..

Yes, my right of free speech is taken from me when I am denied the ability to speak my mind in a public venue.

Somehow I don't think we are getting the FULL story on your "self defense" issue either..

No, of course not, because I'm the kind of guy that goes around beating up three other guys at a time ... it's sort of a hobby.

In essence... You have lost nothing.. Just the right to break the law..and be proud of it..

In actuality I have lost many of the rights that are guaranteed me in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
 
None of those rights have been violated.... Go ahead and stand on any street corner and preach white supremacy.. You have that right... BUT the folks also have the right to disagree.. As I said.. You don't lose your right because people disagree with you.. You are free to say what you wish.

Psssss poor examples... of your HUGE loss of rights... and a load of BULL shiite.
 
Do you even realize how bad these types of statements make "you" look? You aren't making anyone else here look bad, or wrong. You must be a terribly unhappy person, but I wish you would look in a mirror and give the credit for that to the one who deserves it, not the neat folks on this forum.
 
Nope... I feel just as free as the 70's... and in many ways much more so.. Don't know what "RIGHTS" you have lost.. that I didn't... would you care to elaborate on which rights have been taken away from you ? And be specific please... none of that "I don't feel" crap... Give the specific rights you have lost.

You have obviously not read the Patriot Act. There ain't nothing more unpatriotic than that piece of crap. Or perhaps you have a memory blank of when the librarians refused to cooperate with the government's demand to track library patrons searches and turn them over to the government?

Here's a good article on actual people who had their rights violated by the Patriot Act: https://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/01/a-decade-of-patriot-act-abuses/

When was the last time you've flown across country? Um, flat out, right there. TSA's did not exist in the '70's and you could board a plane with toothpaste or shampoo or freaking baby formula in a bottle for your infant then.

How about some of the things -- including gun ownership -- that are hotly debated in this forum?

How about being forced to buy health insurance? How about being forced onto Medicare primary instead of continuing my previous health insurance which was way better and indeed now is secondary and picks up thousands of dollars on my behalf every year that Medicare just does not cover?

Been threatened with arrest for yelling watch it at some asshole backing up into your grandbaby in a store? I have. Never would have happened 30 years ago. Speaking from experience.

As has been stated above, better not defend yourself, especially if you're white and the person you're defending yourself against ain't.

High school kids getting kicked out of school for carrying Midol to school like I did in the '70's. Thank God I went to high school in the '70's when a teen girl could still do something about her cramps without getting called up on the carpet for being a druggie.

A doctor labelled me drug seeking for asking for a script -- a script he gave me -- for my arthritis pain. Other docs have heard how careful I am with this drug and laughed at the notion and given me the script with no trepidation for the one narcotic pain killer that works, also helps with my IBS and hasn't sent me to the hospital in reaction. They cannot write any refills on it. Has to be a fresh script every time. I've been taking this script about 4 years now, 4 years since this asshole labeled me drug seeking and gave me the stench of an addict. Some addict, 30 pills lasts me 6 months or more when I'm in chronic pain daily. Other doctors think I'm overly careful. As someone who came of age in the '70's and never even drank or smoke pot, this angers me but I can't seem to get this ridiculous accusation removed. This asshole wouldn't have gotten away with that crap in the '70's. Reporting him to the Health Department would have had him answering to the authorities but now I have to sue and to sue I have to show financial harm done to me.

An 18yo could legally drink in the '70's. Now they must be 21. Of course, said 18yo can still be drafted, indeed males (how's that for sexism) must register for the draft upon turning 18 -- happy birthday young American son but don't you dare have a beer to celebrate it, can vote and get married and if arrested is handled as an adult, can enter a contract, but they can't drink. God forbid, they have a beer.

I think that's start enough. We aren't as free. Point blank.
 
Go ahead and stand on any street corner and preach white supremacy.. You have that right...

I said pride in my race, not racial supremacy. Check your reading comprehension, please.

You are free to say what you wish.

Really? I can stand on a soapbox and curse and threaten the President?

Psssss poor examples... of your HUGE loss of rights... and a load of BULL shiite.

I rarely use this term, but here you go ...

Whatever.
 


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