The End Of The American Empire Is Here

I do think that the American hegemony is being challenged by China right now.

The Chinese regime has been hard at work attempting to seduce Pacific governments into signing up to an economic and security program that would have been a challenge to the influence of US, France Australia and New Zealand in that part of the world. If it had succeeded then it would have has serious implications for defence. Fortunately they could not convince most of the Pacific governments to go along with the plan. I am sure they will be back again with a more attractive offer.

It is most important that the US stay strong, not just economically but also as a united people ready too withstand whatever the Chinese have in mind.

I have been paying attention to events in Ukraine and it is obvious that the US administration is willing to assist Ukraine but not prepared to make war on Russia. I have heard serious commentary that suggests the reason behind this is to avoid being weakened by such a war when it is possible, perhaps even likely, that China will need to be contained in the not too distant future.
 

Shalimar said:
My goodness, not only is this statement blatantly false, it is also disrespectful of our American members. In this forum, we are clearly prohibited from needlessly trashing each other’s countries. Your anger is misplaced, and very toxic.
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@Lavinia says "The only thing America has given the world is Coca-Cola and chewing gum."

Now you have accused Lavinia of "needlessly trashing". That to is an opinion. Let us see it in fact form.

"America has given the world is Coca-Cola and chewing gum"

Here is McDonalds around the world and the fast food stats.

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Don M. said:
This may be one reason why illegal immigration is increasing, and no real solutions are being implemented to slow it down. There aren't enough "White" babies being born in the U.S, and Europe to sustain and grow our economies. We are having to rely, more and more, on these immigrants to do the work that needs to be done....especially anything that requires manual/physical labor.
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I think you’re half right. The browning of America is intentional by a political movement. To speed up the process, they decided to open the gates and let the brown people in by the droves. What they didn’t plan on was the costs involved. Although it won’t bankrupt America, they may end up destroying their own party.

Personally, since I came from a military family, my dad often reminded us family members the hundreds of thousands of military personnel that died to preserve this country. Generations since the Vietnam War don’t realize how many gave their all to protect our autonomy. I don’t think most even care. Men are no longer men standing up for their beliefs. They would rather gather together and complain about what’s wrong with our country and they always seem to have an answer how to fix it.
 

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Warrigal said:
I do think that the American hegemony is being challenged by China right now.

The Chinese regime has been hard at work attempting to seduce Pacific governments into signing up to an economic and security program that would have been a challenge to the influence of US, France Australia and New Zealand in that part of the world. If it had succeeded then it would have has serious implications for defence. Fortunately they could not convince most of the Pacific governments to go along with the plan. I am sure they will be back again with a more attractive offer.

It is most important that the US stay strong, not just economically but also as a united people ready too withstand whatever the Chinese have in mind.

I have been paying attention to events in Ukraine and it is obvious that the US administration is willing to assist Ukraine but not prepared to make war on Russia. I have heard serious commentary that suggests the reason behind this is to avoid being weakened by such a war when it is possible, perhaps even likely, that China will need to be contained in the not too distant future.
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THAT is my concern...that with every dollar we are spending on the war it IS hurting our economy. Americans are going to have to adjust to a war economy. It happens in all wars. WHY? The military industry is pulling the strings on supplying weapons to Ukraine and other NATO allies. They are getting mega rich. Most of the world doesn't want us in their countries. Americans like history that makes us feel proud, and righteous and believe that "capitalist democracy" is the best. I don't.

China will not be contained. They are experts at isolationism...and now they have economic power so they are making connections with other countries and making alliances. A war with China would be WWIII I imagine. That possibility is slim in my mind...but I could be wrong.

Thoughtful post. Thanks.
 
oldman said:
I think you’re half right. The browning of America is intentional by a political movement. To speed up the process, they decided to open the gates and let the brown people in by the droves. What they didn’t plan on was the costs involved. Although it won’t bankrupt America, they may end up destroying their own party.

Personally, since I came from a military family, my dad often reminded us family members the hundreds of thousands of military personnel that died to preserve this country. Generations since the Vietnam War don’t realize how many gave their all to protect our autonomy. I don’t think most even care. Mem are no longer men standing up for their beliefs. They would rather gather together and complain about what’s wrong with our country and they always seem to have an answer how to fix it.
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The first statement is an opinion not a fact and has been debated by the best minds and is far from conclusive.

Protest and speaking out at the actions of our government is a constitutional right, and is extremely necessary for ruled to express grievances against our policies. War doesn't solve anything...it is what happens afterwards that determines how "it" is fixed.
 
chic said:
Technically, no. Theoretically? Maybe. It's true our founding fathers never intended America to become an empire but republics can charter this course in the path of their evolution. Napoleon envisioned a globalist government of which he would be the head but ran into noncompliance in Russia, and later defeat in England. Globalism is a really bad idea and has never worked before in history. One day it might. but I hope it's not in my lifetime because I wouldn't want to live in a world like that. People would have no roots or basic identity as they have presently. If we have no countries what do we call ourselves? Earthlings? What would this do to our evolution? :unsure:
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Globalism did not work, true. I think the results of this war will be a multi-polar world order. Many countries are ready to start cooperating rather that fight each other. My hope, like yours is that nationalism fades away, and that we begin to see that we are all the same, HUMAN.
 
Paco Dennis said:
THAT is my concern...that with every dollar we are spending on the war it IS hurting our economy. Americans are going to have to adjust to a war economy. It happens in all wars. WHY? The military industry is pulling the strings on supplying weapons to Ukraine and other NATO allies. They are getting mega rich. Most of the world doesn't want us in their countries. Americans like history that makes us feel proud, and righteous and believe that "capitalist democracy" is the best. I don't.

China will not be contained. They are experts at isolationism...and now they have economic power so they are making connections with other countries and making alliances. A war with China would be WWIII I imagine. That possibility is slim in my mind...but I could be wrong.

Thoughtful post. Thanks.
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Countries need to stand up to bullies and that is what the US and other countries are doing where Ukraine is concerned. My dream is one day we will see the end of bloody dictatorships and humanity can co exist in relative harmony.
 
morgan said:
Countries need to stand up to bullies and that is what the US and other countries are doing where Ukraine is concerned. My dream is one day we will see the end of bloody dictatorships and humanity can co exist in relative harmony.
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"My dream is one day we will see the end of bloody dictatorships and humanity can co exist in relative harmony."

You must plan on living a really long time........
 
Paco Dennis said:
The first statement is an opinion not a fact and has been debated by the best minds and is far from conclusive.


Gee, I have never read anything to the contrary. The white population is decreasing while the brown population, mostly due to the increase in Hispanics, has and us increasing with every census. The projection date for brown people to be the populous race is 2045, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.
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morgan said:
Chewing gum was invented by Mexico not America.
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If you want to get technical, it was more like a joint venture between a Mexican and an American and the first chewing gum was made in New York. General de Santa Anna bought the main ingredient to New York (chicle), but then when chicle didn’t pan out as planned, a local U.S. inventor took the chicle and developed it into a chewing gum. Good story. Thanks for raising the issue. We sometimes learn things just by accident.

https://www.eater.com/22993171/gene...na-accidentally-created-chewing-gum-gastropod
 
SeniorBen said:
The U.S. economy is strong!
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Capitalism by definition creates competition! Therefore, winners and losers are a fact of that economic system. Factually, all societies have the very poor. Additionally, all countries have drug addicted (China locks them up or kills them, Sweden houses them and gives them more drugs, etc.) individuals, mentally ill, etc. Only in the USA does the Press and Politian use our indigent to advance their political views...
 
In case this was missed, the USA working with our allies stopped the Nazi's attempt to take over Europe and stopped Japan and the rest of the Axis powers from taking over the Pacific. We also joined the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France and other allies to stop Germany and their allies in WWI!

In both cases we (Allies) saved the World from tyranny! That beats the heck out of chewing gum!
 
Timewise 60+ said:
USA working with our allies stopped the Nazi's attempt to take over Europe
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This post is an opinion. There are alternative views on this.

For example

"On May 10th 1940, time ran out for the West. Nearly 3 million German troops smashed into France and the Low Countries. Caught off-guard, the Allies were unprepared for the new age of mobile warfare and hampered by poor coordination. Within days the Low Countries had been overrun. Within weeks, France had been defeated and nearly 2 million French soldiers were taken prisoner. Much of Western Europe would suffer under Nazi occupation for the next four years. The continent would ultimately be liberated, but only after unimaginable death and destruction.


Western leaders repeatedly squandered chances to stop Hitler before 1940. First, their governments refused to take decisive action against the Nazis. Then, they remained divided in the face of a growing threat. Finally, they undermined their own opposition to Hitler through irresolution and half-measures. These mistakes proved disastrous. Nothing excuses the evil actions of Nazi Germany, but strong Western leadership might have contained Nazi evil before it exacted such a terrible toll."

World War II: How Western Leaders Failed To Stop the Nazi Rise
 
Paco Dennis said:
This post is an opinion. There are alternative views on this.

See it as you like! Opinions are like belly-buttons, everybody has one...
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Paco Dennis said:
The end result is the same! Hitler and his madness were defeated! Same for Japan! I am not sure where you are from or how old you are, or wear you get your information, but you should thank God (if you have one) every night that millions of Americans and our allies faced these mad men and the war machines they built and beat them down until they were defeated!
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Paco Dennis said:
Globalism did not work, true. I think the results of this war will be a multi-polar world order. Many countries are ready to start cooperating rather that fight each other. My hope, like yours is that nationalism fades away, and that we begin to see that we are all the same, HUMAN.
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No I don't hope Nationalism fades away. I think you misinterpreted that. Someday in the future it may, but humans need to evolve first or it might not be mentally healthy to destroy ones foundation and identity. I hate cancel culture. Just my opinion.
 
chic said:
No I don't hope Nationalism fades away. I think you misinterpreted that. Someday in the future it may, but humans need to evolve first or it might not be mentally healthy to destroy ones foundation and identity. I hate cancel culture. Just my opinion.
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I agree....nationalism is a strong force for identity and it won't go away any time soon. A very looooooooooooooooooooooooooooong fade. :)
 
Can't wait until the US becomes The Chinese Republic of America. Everything will settle down. Hopefully sooner than later. We already have lots of prisons for malcontents. Just set the drug dealers and black people free, prisons will be almost empty. Don't want to learn Chinese? Six month. Keep refusing? More year tacked on. Stir up dissent? Thirty-five year. Walk around with gun in public? One death penalty. Judge is shown holding up one finger. If people learn, if you behave, noooooo problem.
 
George Carlin — 'That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.'
 

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