The End Of The American Empire Is Here

While married couples with children were the majority decades ago, now nearly 57 percent of U.S. households are childless.
Check out Reuters findings. I'm shocked, truly.
For a country to just maintain its population requires a fertility rate (births per woman) of 2.15 or 2.2. Above that it grows. Less, and it declines.
Those countries with a declining population find themselves in a demographic disaster as an elderly non-productive percentage of the population increases and the younger portion shrinks.

Here are some typical rates in the developed world:
United States 1.84
Canada 1.57
Germany 1.57
Italy 1.22
Japan 1.38
China 1.45
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/total-fertility-rate/country-comparison

So how are these countries with shrinking populations thriving?
"Italian town of Cammarata offers free houses to lure new residents"
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/italy-cammarata-free-houses/index.html
"Japan’s Incredibly Shrinking Population Is a Big Problem"
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/02/japans-incredibly-shrinking-population-is-a-big-problem/
"As Birthrate Falls, South Korea’s Population Declines, Posing Threat to Economy"
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/04/world/asia/south-korea-population.html
 

Most Newfies like myself like America but let’s face it, the US is in an age of declinism. There was a time when the country was looked up to but now the complaints are endless. Wages are abysmal, productivity growth is hitting the wall, one reason being, companies aren’t competitive in global markets. Infrastructure is collapsing, the health system is deteriorating, schools are unsafe and very little is being done to make them safe. The cities are becoming more and more unsafe and economic disparity increasing daily.
There is no American empire. That disappeared a long time ago (that is assuming there was ever one).
 
For a country to just maintain its population requires a fertility rate (births per woman) of 2.15 or 2.2. Above that it grows. Less, and it declines.
Those countries with a declining population find themselves in a demographic disaster as an elderly non-productive percentage of the population increases and the younger portion shrinks.
This may be one reason why illegal immigration is increasing, and no real solutions are being implemented to slow it down. There aren't enough "White" babies being born in the U.S, and Europe to sustain and grow our economies. We are having to rely, more and more, on these immigrants to do the work that needs to be done....especially anything that requires manual/physical labor.
 

1902, and the "Great White Fleet" may have started the" American Century", yet I think Vietnam finally killed the concept of an "American Empire". And subsequently, we found that military might doesn't solve all problems. And the only way the US significantly grew was through immigration. Also, the rest of the planet has not stood still, it's not post WWII anymore. 92% have internet access. 80% live above the poverty line. The issues that some see as the end of the American Empire are the issues all industrial developed nations face.
 
Depends on how you define PROPERLY regulated. Safe to assume, at least for most, that by properly regulated, Chic meant fairly regulated; an even playing field; the original free-enterprise capitalism that allowed America's progress and growth to surpass other nations so rapidly.

Tragically, the free-enterprise capitalist system became corrupted by greed. There's no free-enterprise in our capitalist system now. There's only capital. And that's due to improper regulations, created by wealthy politicians and legislators, that favor the wealthy.
That's it in a nutshell but why do we allow this to continue?
 
Aside from re-electing the same career politicians, it isn't us who are allowing this to happen. We simply don't have the power to effect change. That will take a whole lot more than filling out a voter's ballot.
I agree. But we have allowed this to happen. Slowly perhaps, but we are too uncomplaining and compliant. The Canadian truckers changed things in a hurry a few months ago by taking action and it did work or we might all be facing forced vaccinations, constant monitoring and digital IDs right now. The fact that we are not shows that defiance does work. We're just not doing doing it enough or consistently.
 
I agree. But we have allowed this to happen. Slowly perhaps, but we are too uncomplaining and compliant. The Canadian truckers changed things in a hurry a few months ago by taking action and it did work or we might all be facing forced vaccinations, constant monitoring and digital IDs right now. The fact that we are not shows that defiance does work. We're just not doing doing it enough or consistently.
"we have allowed this to happen" is true in that most people believed the promises and phony altruism of our elected officials for too long. The reason I don't blame "us" entirely is because our power was taken away so slowly, it was imperceptible to the majority of us, and, of course, a majority is all our elected officials ever needed.

But there's great significance in the fact that those same elected officials gave themselves the power to make decisions that we aren't even privy to. Decisions that don't go on a ballot and aren't even made public. Some of those decisions gave elected officials even more power, some ensured they would keep their power and positions and tax-funded benefits for a lifetime, and some made some of our powers illegal.

But you're right, we became a complacent society, and virtually powerless.
 
"we have allowed this to happen" is true in that most people believed the promises and phony altruism of our elected officials for too long. The reason I don't blame "us" entirely is because our power was taken away so slowly, it was imperceptible to the majority of us, and, of course, a majority is all our elected officials ever needed.

But there's great significance in the fact that those same elected officials gave themselves the power to make decisions that we aren't even privy to. Decisions that don't go on a ballot and aren't even made public. Some of those decisions gave elected officials even more power, some ensured they would keep their power and positions and tax-funded benefits for a lifetime, and some made some of our powers illegal.

But you're right, we became a complacent society, and virtually powerless.
But the one thing, perhaps the most important thing, is we HAVE allowed them to divide us. Our numbers alone would be intimidating had we not done so, if we had remained united. We've been herded into groups, the good people vs the bad people, but I refuse to see it this way. We are all Americans and part of the human family. Allowing ourselves to become divided is our downfall and it's not new. The Roman Empire did it successfully for over 500 years.
 
I am much more optimistic about the American economy than most I read here.

I have lived a long while and was fortunate to travel around the world as part of my job. My perspective is that we have a much better economy and lifestyle than most of the world. We still rank #1 in GDP based on the US & World Economies which is one of the primary measures of economic health.

Granted we are in a downturn now, but you have to look to DC to understand why that is going on. Our Politicians and Press have been out of control for some time, but the American people, over time...push through much of that rhetoric and continue to produce goods and services. Our politicians and media frequently criticize the U.S. economy such as call for higher minimum wages. Minium wages are only critical economically, to a country that has a large portion of the country on minimum wages. This is all political and not tied to real economic motivations... In the USA only 2.8% of our worker are earning minimum wage. In Canada that number is 8.8% and in France it is 12% (all estimates for 2019/2020).

Although, over the years, we have given away much of our economic freedom by allowing more foreign countries to participate in our economy. Therefore, we are more reliant on a Global Economy than ever before. The difficulty is that what we as individuals see locally are not necessarily reality for the country. Add to that the constant lies and misrepresentations by the media and politicians...it is no wonder that many feel things are getting bad.

I just don't believe most of it...! Vote often, know who you are voting for! We can win that war, if we show up and know exactly what we are doing when we vote!
 
The U.S. economy is strong!
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What concerns me is that China and India have remained neutral, and the US is spending massive amounts of money on this war. I fear we are digging our own grave if we keep printing trillions of dollars we don't have. There could be a complete change in the worlds leading currency even. This article is written by an Indian professor and should be considered.

"India is creating a new world order

The West claims that Putin’s war against Ukraine means that Russia is now isolated by the international community. But in fact, the exact opposite is happening. Most of the world is either pro-Russia or neutral with regards to the war in Ukraine. India’s neutral stance is critical to this international balance of power. And while India’s historical ties with Russia go a long way to explain the current situation, it is also India’s vision for the future that’s informing its attitude. Along with China and Russia, India is aiming to bring about an end to western global hegemony, and usher in a new era of a multipolar international order, argues Chris Ogden."

https://iai.tv/articles/india-is-creating-a-new-world-order-auid-2118
 
What concerns me is that China and India have remained neutral, and the US is spending massive amounts of money on this war. I fear we are digging our own grave if we keep printing trillions of dollars we don't have. There could be a complete change in the worlds leading currency even. This article is written by an Indian professor and should be considered.

"India is creating a new world order

The West claims that Putin’s war against Ukraine means that Russia is now isolated by the international community. But in fact, the exact opposite is happening. Most of the world is either pro-Russia or neutral with regards to the war in Ukraine. India’s neutral stance is critical to this international balance of power. And while India’s historical ties with Russia go a long way to explain the current situation, it is also India’s vision for the future that’s informing its attitude. Along with China and Russia, India is aiming to bring about an end to western global hegemony, and usher in a new era of a multipolar international order, argues Chris Ogden."

https://iai.tv/articles/india-is-creating-a-new-world-order-auid-2118
I don't characterize China and India as neutral. The CCP has definite geopolitical and economical goals, and India wants a ride with the "winning" side no matter who it appears to be at any given time. I can sympathize; India's problems seem endless and insurmountable, but its PM is wrong to believe there's a quick fix, and extremely careless to rely on one.
 
I agree. But we have allowed this to happen. Slowly perhaps, but we are too uncomplaining and compliant. The Canadian truckers changed things in a hurry a few months ago by taking action and it did work or we might all be facing forced vaccinations, constant monitoring and digital IDs right now. The fact that we are not shows that defiance does work. We're just not doing doing it enough or consistently.
Excuse me, but they changed very little of note. Seditious attempts and threats of violence do not go over well in my country. This subject hits a sore spot for most Canucks, I shall politely leave this thread. Have a great day.
 
Most Newfies like myself like America but let’s face it, the US is in an age of declinism. There was a time when the country was looked up to but now the complaints are endless. Wages are abysmal, productivity growth is hitting the wall, one reason being, companies aren’t competitive in global markets. Infrastructure is collapsing, the health system is deteriorating, schools are unsafe and very little is being done to make them safe. The cities are becoming more and more unsafe and economic disparity increasing daily.
There is no American empire. That disappeared a long time ago (that is assuming there was ever one).
True, America isn't an Empire, never was, and wasn't ever intended to be. America's founding fathers despised empires, and created governing documents they hoped would prevent any type of empirical tyranny, external and internal.
 
Excuse me, but they changed very little of note. Seditious attempts and threats of violence do not go over well in my country. This subject hits a sore spot for most Canucks, I shall politely leave this thread. Have a great day.
They inspired truckers all over the world to drive to their capitol cities in protest of mandates and the mandate talk suddenly stopped. I would say that was very effective.
 
True, America isn't an Empire, never was, and wasn't ever intended to be. America's founding fathers despised empires, and created governing documents they hoped would prevent any type of empirical tyranny, external and internal.
As with most every aspect of our lives we cannot agree on this topic. I don't know if the US is an Empire or not.What if we only discussed the facts? How is an empire defined.

Is the United States technically an empire?


The federal government of the United States has never referred to its territories as an empire, but some commentators refer to it as such, including Max Boot, Arthur Schlesinger, and Niall Ferguson.


So the facts are out there , it is each person's opinion of the facts. Our emotions seem to over ride the facts. Here is an example concerning this thread.

 
As with most every aspect of our lives we cannot agree on this topic. I don't know if the US is an Empire or not.What if we only discussed the facts? How is an empire defined.

Is the United States technically an empire?


The federal government of the United States has never referred to its territories as an empire, but some commentators refer to it as such, including Max Boot, Arthur Schlesinger, and Niall Ferguson.


So the facts are out there , it is each person's opinion of the facts. Our emotions seem to over ride the facts. Here is an example concerning this thread.

Re: that bit I highlighted - by "we" do you mean you and I specifically? (if so, fair enough)

I concede that the US gov't has taken empirical-esque actions, but that's despite absolute disagreement and disgust from a majority of the American people (the ones who pay attention). For me, there's a distinction between a government and it's people. Governments tend to forget what their countries are, what they stand for, while the people rarely do even when they know their disagreement and disgust is futile.
 
America never had an empire! It seems to think it is the ideal role model for the rest of the world....where that idea came from, I can't imagine.
The only thing America has given the world is Coca-Cola and chewing gum.
 
America never had an empire! It seems to think it is the ideal role model for the rest of the world....where that idea came from, I can't imagine.
The only thing America has given the world is Coca-Cola and chewing gum.
I'll take Coca-Cola and chewing gum over what your "empire" has contributed to the world. Maybe it is time for you to get over your "holier than thou" deep-seated hatred of the US and put things into perspective ;) From your favorite "vociferous" friend. :ROFLMAO:

5 of the worst atrocities carried out by British Empire, after 'historical amnesia' claims​

It is the 70th anniversary of the partition of India​

Samuel Osborne
Sunday 05 March 2017 12:07\

Five of the worst atrocities carried out by the British Empire

The British people suffer "historical amnesia" over the atrocities committed by their former empire, an Indian MP and author has claimed.
Former UN under-secretary general Dr Shashi Tharoor said the British education system fails to tell the real story of empire.

He said: "There's no real awareness of the atrocities, of the fact that Britain financed its Industrial Revolution and its prosperity from the depredations of empire, the fact that Britain came to one of the richest countries in the world in the 18th century and reduced it, after two centuries of plunder, to one of the poorest."

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A previous YouGov poll found the British public are generally proud of the British Empire and its colonial past.
YouGov found 44 per cent were proud of Britain's history of colonialism, while 21 per cent regretted it happened.
The same poll also found 43 per cent believed the British Empire was a good thing, while 19 per cent said it was bad and 25 per cent said it was neither good nor bad.
At its height in 1922, the British empire governed a fifth of the world's population and a quarter of the world's total land area.

Although proponents of Empire say it brought various economic developments to parts of the world it controlled, critics point to massacres, famines and the use of concentration camps by the British Empire.
Here, The Independent looks at five of the worst atrocities carried out by the British Empire.

1. Boer concentration camps​

Armed Afrikaners on the veldt near Ladysmith during the second Boer War, circa 1900

Armed Afrikaners on the veldt near Ladysmith during the second Boer War, circa 1900
(Hulton Archive/Getty Images)
During the Second Boer War (1899-1902), the British rounded up around a sixth of the Boer population - mainly women and children - and detained them in camps, which were overcrowded and prone to outbreaks of disease, with scant food rations.
Of the 107,000 people interned in the camps, 27,927 Boers died, along with an unknown number of black Africans.

2. Amritsar massacre​

A young visitor looks at a painting depicting the Amritsar Massare at Jallianwala Bagh in Amritsar

A young visitor looks at a painting depicting the Amritsar Massare at Jallianwala Bagh in Amritsar
When peaceful protesters defied a government order and demonstrated against British colonial rule in Amritsar, India, on 13 April 1919, they were blocked inside the walled Jallianwala Gardens and fired upon by Gurkha soldiers.

The soldiers, under the orders of Brigadier Reginald Dyer, kept firing until they ran out of ammunition, killing between 379 and 1,000 protesters and injuring another 1,100 within 10 minutes.
Brigadier Dyer was later lauded a hero by the British public, who raised £26,000 for him as a thank you.

3. Partitioning of India​

British lawyer and law lord Cyril Radcliffe, 1st Viscount Radcliffe (1899 - 1977) at the Colonial Office, London, July 1956

British lawyer and law lord Cyril Radcliffe, 1st Viscount Radcliffe (1899 - 1977) at the Colonial Office, London, July 1956
In 1947, Cyril Radcliffe was tasked with drawing the border between India and the newly created state of Pakistan over the course of a single lunch.
After Cyril Radcliffe split the subcontinent along religious lines, uprooting over 10 million people, Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India were forced to escape their homes as the situation quickly descended into violence.
Some estimates suggest up to one million people lost their lives in sectarian killings.

4. Mau Mau Uprising​

Mau Mau suspects at one of the prison camps in 1953

Mau Mau suspects at one of the prison camps in 1953
Thousands of elderly Kenyans, who claim British colonial forces mistreated, raped and tortured them during the Mau Mau Uprising (1951-1960), have launched a £200m damages claim against the UK Government.
Members of the Kikuyu tribe were detained in camps, since described as "Britain's gulags" or concentration camps, where they allege they were systematically tortured and suffered serious sexual assault.
Estimates of the deaths vary widely: historian David Anderson estimates there were 20,000, whereas Caroline Elkins believes up to 100,000 could have died.

5. Famines in India​

Starving children in India, 1945

Starving children in India, 1945
Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India.
In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Winston Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal.
Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”
 
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America never had an empire! It seems to think it is the ideal role model for the rest of the world....where that idea came from, I can't imagine.
The only thing America has given the world is Coca-Cola and chewing gum.
My goodness, not only is this statement blatantly false, it is also disrespectful of our American members. In this forum, we are clearly prohibited from needlessly trashing each other’s countries. Your anger is misplaced, and very toxic.
 
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The only thing America has given the world is Coca-Cola and chewing gum.
Arrogant BS! If I remember correctly America saved the Brits ar*e in two world wars. Yep, as is the case in all countries they have their problems. Right now it’s gun control and in Britain a lying Prime Minister. Nearly forgot, they’ve also provided a forum for you to be rude on!
 
As with most every aspect of our lives we cannot agree on this topic. I don't know if the US is an Empire or not.What if we only discussed the facts? How is an empire defined.

Is the United States technically an empire?


The federal government of the United States has never referred to its territories as an empire, but some commentators refer to it as such, including Max Boot, Arthur Schlesinger, and Niall Ferguson.


So the facts are out there , it is each person's opinion of the facts. Our emotions seem to over ride the facts. Here is an example concerning this thread.

Technically, no. Theoretically? Maybe. It's true our founding fathers never intended America to become an empire but republics can charter this course in the path of their evolution. Napoleon envisioned a globalist government of which he would be the head but ran into noncompliance in Russia, and later defeat in England. Globalism is a really bad idea and has never worked before in history. One day it might. but I hope it's not in my lifetime because I wouldn't want to live in a world like that. People would have no roots or basic identity as they have presently. If we have no countries what do we call ourselves? Earthlings? What would this do to our evolution? :unsure:
 


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