This is frightening!

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Ronni

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FROM THE NY TIMES: Another record-breaking day in America​
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The coronavirus is reaching terrifying new levels in the United States. The country set another record for new coronavirus cases yesterday, with more than 59,400 infections — the fifth such record in nine days. As of Tuesday, the U.S. had recorded more than three million cases in total.​
Today there are only two states — Vermont and New Hampshire — where cases are decreasing, while cases are more or less steady in 14 states and territories. In roughly half of the country, the spread has never been worse: 24 states reported more cases over the past week than in any other seven-day stretch of the pandemic. And as my colleague David Leonhardt pointed out, several states have more new cases per capita than even the hardest-hit countries.​
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For days now, political leaders looking for a silver lining have pointed to the death rate, which had been declining even as new infections skyrocketed. But that optimism may be coming to an end.​
More than 948 new deaths were reported nationally on Wednesday, the second-largest total in nearly a month. That’s still a far cry from the national average of 2,200 daily deaths in mid-April, but the growing numbers may be a sign of what’s to come. Typically, there has been a lag of about a month between an infection and a reported death, and that suggests that the surge that began in mid-June, particularly in the Sun Belt, could produce a spike in deaths in the coming weeks.
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Just as concerning is the situation in America’s hospitals. Across the South and West, a deluge of patients is forcing hospitals to convert beds into intensive care units. Doctors and health officials have said they were able to moderately control the virus because hospitals had enough personal protective equipment and the antiviral drug remdesivir. But now, many hospitals are reporting that they are running low on the drug, and the country as a whole is facing a dire shortage of protective gear and testing supplies.​
Deborah Burger, co-president of National Nurses United, the country’s largest organization of registered nurses, said nurses were being forced to reuse protective gear in a way that has not been tested for safety
“It’s almost five months into a pandemic in the richest country in the world and we’re putting people’s lives at risk because we don’t have enough P.P.E.,” she said.​
What’s behind the surge: The current spike in cases is being driven by states that were among the first to reopen their economies, a Times analysis found, decisions that epidemiologists warned could lead to a wave of infections.​
 

And the country continues to float like a ship without a rudder. Absolutely no solid, convincing, leadership from the top. Each area, state, county, etc., left to their own devices.

Each level of leadership from the president down to the local mayor and/or city council, trying to avoid making any solid decisions for fear of being blamed if they make the wrong one.

I'd hate to see our country, say back in WWII, with no one at the helm and our leaders trying to duck and hide when a POSSIBLY UNPOPULAR DECISION needed to be made. That's where we are at present and we've already seen the results of areas where there have been little if any restrictions.
 
DaveA said:
And the country continues to float like a ship without a rudder. Absolutely no solid, convincing, leadership from the top. Each area, state, county, etc., left to their own devices.

Each level of leadership from the president down to the local mayor and/or city council, trying to avoid making any solid decisions for fear of being blamed if they make the wrong one.

I'd hate to see our country, say back in WWII, with no one at the helm and our leaders trying to duck and hide when a POSSIBLY UNPOPULAR DECISION needed to be made. That's where we are at present and we've already seen the results of areas where there have been little if any restrictions.
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Absolute truth
 
gennie said:
Since the incubation period for Covid is apparently 2 to 14 days, these numbers do not reflect the full effects of the holiday weekend partying. That is even more frightening.
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Not to mention that deaths are a lagging indicator. They occur 3-6 weeks after infection, are often not picked up by government agencies for a couple of weeks after that, and may not get to Johns Hopkins tracking for a bit after that.
 
It's getting to the point already that I am numb and no longer frightened--they've thrown everything at us for so long, nothing worse can happen IMO. The media is causing alarm and I'm no longer alarmed--a person can only take only so much till the defense mechanisms turn on.
 
Ruthanne said:
It's getting to the point already that I am numb and no longer frightened--they've thrown everything at us for so long, nothing worse can happen IMO. The media is causing alarm and I'm no longer alarmed--a person can only take only so much till the defense mechanisms turn on.
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Exactly. People are sick of staying in, sick of their own cooking, sick of being frightened by statistics and dire warnings. Covid isn't just killing people, it's killing their livelihoods.
 
People are indeed sick of the whole thing, I can relate to that. So am I, so is everybody. But we are living in an epidemic of a frightening, often fatal disease, which has shut us down, at least those of us who have any sense. Staying home, being bored, losing income, having our plans torn to shreds, etc. are all better than dying or becoming very sick. Our hospitals are already at maximum capacity. If the toll of this illness gets any worse, people will literally be dying in the streets.
 
My state has reopened and we're doing great. We only have 250 cases left. We're in phase 3 of reopening. So, maybe there's a reason why other states are spiking?
 
Sunny said:
People are indeed sick of the whole thing, I can relate to that. So am I, so is everybody. But we are living in an epidemic of a frightening, often fatal disease, which has shut us down, at least those of us who have any sense. Staying home, being bored, losing income, having our plans torn to shreds, etc. are all better than dying or becoming very sick. Our hospitals are already at maximum capacity. If the toll of this illness gets any worse, people will literally be dying in the streets.
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Oh, for crying out loud. It's serious, but it is NOT "often fatal." Can it be fatal? Yes. Even if the morbidity rate is as much as 5%, and I'm pretty sure in this country it's half that, that still doesn't qualify as "often fatal." Bless your heart.
 
This really is very sad . I can’t imagine how horrible it’s been for some of you and worry about your future with you. You guys have been hit so hard this year especially and my heart really goes out to you.

I pray this gets better soon and your spirits are lifted
 
CarolfromTX said:
Oh, for crying out loud. It's serious, but it is NOT "often fatal." Can it be fatal? Yes. Even if the morbidity rate is as much as 5%, and I'm pretty sure in this country it's half that, that still doesn't qualify as "often fatal." Bless your heart.
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Here are the death figures, as of today.

Worldwide: 559,000 U.S. : 134,000 Your own state of Texas, currently having a surge which may shut it down: 3,081 deaths,

Those are deaths, so far. I would call that often fatal.
 
Melbourne ( Victoria ) had next to none virus cases for over 3 weeks .,then all of a sudden a huge increase in numbers with about 200..to 300 a day popping up In a city of about 5. million
The premier shut down “hot spot“ suburbs to try slowing the curb but that didn’t decrease the numbers so he’s now shut down all of the city‘s suburbs for 6 weeks .

Many including myself believe the mostly younger generation are not taking the virus seriously
one young Melbourne couple was caught last night hosting a party 🥳 with up to 40 in attendance,
It cost them $26.000 in fines after being reported by a a. KFC employe after they ordered enough chicken for the party .( Victorian‘s are suppose to be isolating )

all other states have opened their borders and welcoming visitors from other states except Victoria . o_O
As for South Australia we’ve had no infections in over a month let’s hope it stays that way
 
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Sunny said:
People are indeed sick of the whole thing, I can relate to that. So am I, so is everybody. But we are living in an epidemic of a frightening, often fatal disease, which has shut us down, at least those of us who have any sense. Staying home, being bored, losing income, having our plans torn to shreds, etc. are all better than dying or becoming very sick. Our hospitals are already at maximum capacity. If the toll of this illness gets any worse, people will literally be dying in the streets.
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At this point I'm not so sure if I care if I die sooner but hope not to linger long.
 
Sunny said:
Here are the death figures, as of today.

Worldwide: 559,000 U.S. : 134,000 Your own state of Texas, currently having a surge which may shut it down: 3,081 deaths,

Those are deaths, so far. I would call that often fatal.
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and the death rate is not even 2% of the total population so far. The media is making this out to be worse than it is. I'm not saying it's not very bad! Just that the media is causing more problems than they are worth.
 
CarolfromTX said:
Oh, for crying out loud. It's serious, but it is NOT "often fatal." Can it be fatal? Yes. Even if the morbidity rate is as much as 5%, and I'm pretty sure in this country it's half that, that still doesn't qualify as "often fatal." Bless your heart.
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You are right as 80% get mild cases of the virus.
 
Alabama, one of the states neighboring ours, is throwing “Corona Virus Parties!!” Good God! 😳

I’m sure they’re not the only state doing this too!

According to CNN, "coronavirus parties" are being held in the city of Tuscaloosa, where those infected with COVID-19 are invited to attend so others will intentionally contract the virus. City Council member Sonya McKinstry said she first heard about this from fire officials.

Story here
 

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