Three fired Minneapolis police officers guilty of violating George Floyd's civil rights resulting in his death

Della said:
Floyd did not lose his life over $20. He lost his life over resisting arrest. The result would have been the same if he had been approached over parking in the wrong spot or bank robbery. He resisted until it required four policemen to hold him. Unfortunately one of them lost control in the struggle and killed him, but it wasn't over $20.
Click to expand...
Mr. Floyd wasn’t murdered because he resisted arrest. Countless people resist arrest on a daily basis and aren’t murdered, they’re restrained and transported.


Chauvin did not lose control. The very fact of his absolute control over Mr. Floyd is what lead to Mr. Floyd’s dearh.
 
So why do you think Chauvin killed him? Was he so angry that Cup Foods had lost twenty dollars that he killed Floyd over it? Did he set out that morning calmly thinking, "I believe I'll murder someone today and lose my job and spend the rest of my life in jail?"

I notice you're careful to give George Floyd the honorary title of "Mr." What do you think he did to deserve that? You and everyone else I know have treated this criminal like he was Jonas Salk since he was killed. The media has lead people to that attitude from the very first.

Not once did they interview the woman he had held at gun point. Do you suppose she had trouble breathing? Do you think she might have had a panic attack or two after losing the ability to feel safe in her own home?

Do you think the mother of Floyd's little girl spoke well of him before he died? I never heard that he paid a penny of child support, in fact I imagine that's part of the reason he moved as far across the country from her and his child as he could.

I remember the first time the news shows interviewed Floyd's little six-year-old girl, they asked her questions like. "What kind of things did you do with your daddy?" and she had no answers, she just looked blank. It was clear she had no idea who they were talking about. The next day she had been coached and repeated things like, "My Daddy changed the world," over and over. Did you ever notice, in this day of constant picture taking, that the only existing pictures of Floyd and this little girl were taken on the same day, when she appears to be about one year old?

Now his brother, who was also left on the other side of the country, acts like he and George were almost inseparably close. He's now at the front of every march, every trial, every incident when the media is out. He seems to think he's the successor to Martin Luther King and he has done nothing to deserve that position, just like George Floyd has done nothing to deserve being called "Mr."

Yet the brother and the little girl and her mother now have won $27 million over this.

Brionna Taylor, Atatiana Jefferson, Tamil Rice, and Ahmaud Arbery have done nothing to deserve being lumped in with the criminal George Floyd. If you have to call someone Mr. or Miss do it with them.
 

I don’t understand your hyper-focus on the way I word some of my sentences. I have no specific reason or ulterior motive for addressing these people the way I did. Read into it whatever nefarious intent pleases you.

It’s my opinion that Chauvin gave little thought to his actions before he murdered George Floyd, as evidenced by Chauvin’s complete disregard for George’s discomfort during the whole episode that resulted in Floyd’s death. Chauvin’s demeanor as captured on video certainly looked as though he just didn’t care one way or the other.

I’m not picking a fight with you @Della. I have no reason to. I’m stating an opinion which is what we do here. That it’s different than yours doesn’t make it wrong, just different.
 
Ronni said:
I’m not picking a fight with you @Della. I have no reason to. I’m stating an opinion which is what we do here. That it’s different than yours doesn’t make it wrong, just different.
Click to expand...
Er, you're the one who quoted me and told me I was wrong about several things. I just defended my points after you did that.

You also told @rgp that his opinion was b.s. Which it was not. He said something was unlikely and you named four people to whom it had happened. Out of the millions of Americans, four, doesn't equal "likely."
 
Last edited:
Della said:
Er, you're the one who quoted me and told me I was wrong about several things. I just defended my points after you did that.

You also told @rgp that his opinion was b.s. Which it was not. He said something was unlikely and you named four people to whom it had happened. Out of the millions of Americans, four, doesn't equal "likely.
Click to expand...
Della said:
Er, you're the one who quoted me and told me I was wrong about several things. I just defended my points after you did that.

You also told @rgp that his opinion was b.s. Which it was not. He said something was unlikely and you named four people to whom it had happened. Out of the millions of Americans, four, doesn't equal "likely."
Click to expand...
Alrighty then! I can see you’re spoiling for a fight which I have no interest in. Peace out, sister.✌️
 
Butterfly said:
The point of all this is now and always has been that under our laws in the US, it is utterly irrelevant whether George Floyd was the finest human being who ever lived or the worst one, cops on the street do not ever have the legal right to decide who in their custody has the right to continue living and who does not. Period.
Click to expand...
I think we've all been agreement about that since the tragic event itself. That's why Chauvin is in prison, but this particular thread is about the other three police officers and the question of how much responsibility they have for what happened.

I did wander off into the national idolization of George Floyd and that's a completely separate issue. One that is not answered before your, "Period." I brought out Floyd's criminal history, not to say the police had a legal right to kill him (straw-man extraodinaire) but to question why he is so revered.

I've heard black people say they looked at that video and thought "that could be my father" and I've thought, Really? Does your father have a habit of breaking the law and fighting with the police? Similar skin color doesn't make your father the same as George Floyd, it's insulting to him to say that.

Our country is lucky enough to have a large population of black people and almost all of them are wonderful, intelligent, talented, law abiding citizens. Sadly, some of those fine people have been killed by the police, why not pick one of them to build statues of and hold marches in their name?
 
Last edited:
Della said:
I think we've all been agreement about that since the tragic event itself. That's why Chauvin is in prison, but this particular thread is about the other four police officers and the question of how much responsibility they have for what happened.

I did wander off into the national idolization of George Floyd and that's a completely separate issue. One that is not answered before your, "Period." I brought out Floyd's criminal history, not to say the police had a legal right to kill him (straw-man extraodinaire) but to question why he is so revered.

I've heard black people say they looked at that video and thought "that could be my father" and I've thought, Really? Does your father have a habit of breaking the law and fighting with the police? Similar skin color doesn't make your father the same as George Floyd, it's insulting to him to say that.

Our country is lucky enough to have a large population of black people and almost all of them are wonderful, intelligent, talented, law abiding citizens. Sadly, some of those fine people have been killed by the police, why not pick one of them to build statues of and hold marches in their name?
Click to expand...
I understand your point very well, @Della
I think you're making sense.
 
win231 said:
"The other witnesses did nothing?" What do you think these 4 dirtbag murderers would do to a civilian who interfered?
If they were lucky, they would just be arrested & charged with "Interfering with an officer."
If they weren't lucky, they would have been killed.
What would you have done?

BTW, they didn't just "stand there & do nothing." One of the 3 put his knee in Floyd's back while Derek Chauvin strangled him.
The other officer kept the witnesses away & prevented anyone from interfering
Click to expand...
I agree with you Win and @feywon. @Ruthanne
 
I cannot understand why people continue to dispute the real reason why George Floyd died. Some continue to insist he died because he resisted arrest. Look folks, Chauvin admitted in court that he violated his civil rights. He pled GUILTY. He will spend at least 24 years in jail for this crime as he cannot appeal the case. Bottom line is that Floyd died because he was murdered. CASE CLOSED.
 
oldiebutgoody said:
I cannot understand why people continue to dispute the real reason why George Floyd died. Some continue to insist he died because he resisted arrest. Look folks, Chauvin admitted in court that he violated his civil rights. He pled GUILTY. He will spend at least 24 years in jail for this crime as he cannot appeal the case. Bottom line is that Floyd died because he was murdered. CASE CLOSED.
Click to expand...
There are a couple of reasons why some people dispute it.
1. They feel they're not supporting police officers unless they try to justify Chauvin's actions by demonizing Floyd.
2. They have police officers in their families & feel they're betraying them unless they put the blame on Floyd & support Chauvin.
The same foolishness always happens after police commit a crime. The cop lovers come out of the woodwork & try to justify it with the usual drivel - "Police have a difficult job........ if the victim wasn't committing a crime........ whose side are you on".....etc.
 
Last edited:
Ronni said:
Gonna call BS on that statement.

Brionna Taylor, Atatiana Jefferson, Tamil Rice, (he was only 12) Ahmaud Arbery to name several just off the top of my head
Click to expand...


I agree with Della, above .

And i was not speaking about any of the people you noted ... I was talking only about Floyd.
 

You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top