Time machines and how we use them?

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our lives seem to be controlled by it; but is it real or just a man made fiction - a ‘control mechanism’ . After all if you lived in the wilds like Gary O and perhaps had no time machines at all [watches I’m talking about] then your life would be ‘measured’ or ‘ruled’ by the sun and moon and seasons – do you think that these are universal ‘time machines’ as well as having other functions ?

Still I must stop rabbiting along and just leave it at – what do we mean by the expressions “I’m sorry but I’m running out of time again! Or gosh just look at the time – it seems to be speeding up today. How do we feel about time and how it influences our lives?? Is it real?
 

It’s there

A measure

I s’pose one could use it to one’s advantage

Yer right, gumbud. I, myself, pay much less attention to it these days.

I quit turning lights out with a switch.
Come to enjoy the creator’s way he turns the lights off at end of day, and the gentle way dawn eventually happens.

Time remains intangible, but watching morning and evening take place has given me a closeness to the transition, a savoring.
The coffee tastes even better while the next day itself evolves into being.
And the approaching evening?
It’s what sipping a single malt is all about.

Keeping time? Saving it?


I made a poster about it in another life;



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What I know for sure about time, is that I'm a slave to it. If I don't know what time it is then I feel lost in space. When I wake up in the night, I have to look at the clock to see what time it is and how much more time I have left to sleep. I suppose in a way, it's not time that I'm a slave to, but what I have to get done by certain times, and if I don't then I collapse into laziness and I have the devil to pay. I am Time's whipping boy. He keeps my oars in the water, my nose to the grindstone. He is EVIL!
 
"Time" was of importance when I was working....but in retirement, it is of little concern. Unless I have a doctor/dentist appt., or some such, an hour or two, here or there, is no big thing. "Weather" is much more of a determining factor, in what I do in a given day.
 
all of our time is considered linear - we are born grow older and die - we are given ages and timetables and that's how we run our lives and world but other groups of peoples on the planet do it very differently whether we are the Kalahari peoples in Africa ; Inuit and Metis peoples in USA and Canada and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples of OZ and Maoris peoples of NewZealand.

Here are just two articles concerning Aboriginal peoples but there are many many more that we can access quite easily from around the globe:

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/stories/s790117.htm

https://www.sarmy.org.au/Resources/...ety/Eternity-Now-Aboriginal-Concepts-of-Time/


these others see 'time' quite differently despite watching the same sunrise and sunset - they are no more wrong or right than we westerners or hypothesizing scientists! It may still be a mystery to us all. But each of us uses what we are accustomed to to get us through each cyclical grind of the planet earth!!

I'm beginning to slide into Gary O style of waking to an approaching dawn and I do each day despite have my mobile phone alarm set just in case! - and waiting for the sunset which I enjoy immensely and even the 'dusk' that follows - all have their 'magic' and nourish me!

But I do acknowledge the working western womans/mans need to clock in and clock out even though it might only be with the twist of the wrist!

time to get ready for another sunset - the sun has moved some sort of position over the last few months and sets at what seems to be a different 'time' as measured by my chronologic aid!

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blueberry diaquiri
 
ah yes my chrono weather meter tells me that the sun is now setting in a north westerly position and several months ago was more direct west!

my body 'clock' wakes me up each day between 4-5am no electronic alarm needed. I slide open my den window to let the beautiful fresh air in [fly screen protected] and when I feel the air warming up round noon- I know it's time to close it again - when the afternoon approaches [arvo we call it up here] then I know I can open it again. I have actually stopped wearing a watch now that I am retired and no driven by other peoples time requirements.

I haven't yet worked out natures signs of approaching sun set so do need to 'watch the clock' [any suggestions?] but once the sun has disappeared then I can feel a strange coolness in the air - if I want to sit out longer - smoke a pipe and listen to Pavarotti then a cardigan is needed as here in the top end the night comes quick and cool and if ya camping out ya need to start a fire soon and put on the billy for a brew.

some of the family went and lit a fire on the marshes last night and watched the moon come up/down/sideways who knows and it was red!! - wow!

this am I watched an interview - damn forget to write down name etc - but tv program and astro-physicist - it will be repeated so should be ready next time - I can see my pad and pen trembling! but what he was saying is that time does change so if we traveled to mars or the edge of a black hole - lived to tell the tale and returned we could be younger - he was talking very quickly!!!!:eek:nthego:




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gumbud said:
I haven't yet worked out natures signs of approaching sun set so do need to 'watch the clock' [any suggestions?]
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Set or rise?

an amature photog acquaintance sat with me in my meadow, waiting for the moon rise
He demonstrated how to tell where it would rise by watching the position of the sun in season

Heck if I can remember

but

thru his instruction, I was able to capture this

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the horizon moon is more cooperative to camera optics

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sun setting I can't work out just by watching shadows cast I'm sure there is a way? maybe we can't work it out by the hour but in larger junks - but I just hate missing it and up here it happens quick!! - I then become a time watcher and a 'dash outside and look'watcher!!:eek:nthego:
 
gumbud said:
sun setting I can't work out just by watching shadows cast I'm sure there is a way?
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guess I'm not understanding

Maybe you don't have the advantage of actually watching the sun set?

The mountains to our west are in our way, so we can never see the sun actually set, like on the sea
 
yes /no I can can can see the sunset everyday - over the tree tops and far away - but no bell in the head warns me when it is occurring - I think other tree shadows is the way to go - if I wasn't so lazy I could get out my canon eos 1100D machine and do it but heh being retired means "not rushing" anyfing heh??
 
well moving forwards moving forwards - tonight I clocked [pun intended] 5.08 pm as my view of our sunset - but it in fact wasn't correct as I could only view it until it disappeared below the tree line - where upon on checking the official sunset this was 5.22pm approx and the[FONT=&quot] setting of the sun below the horizon in the evening. [/FONT] But I did enjoy it rather!!


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there that will do!!
 
Don M. said:
"Time" was of importance when I was working....but in retirement, it is of little concern. Unless I have a doctor/dentist appt., or some such, an hour or two, here or there, is no big thing. "Weather" is much more of a determining factor, in what I do in a given day.
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That's how time is for me also. Weather is more important to me as it decides what I should do each day.
 
I seem to have the odd ability to guess what time it is without looking at a clock, usually correct within about 10 minutes or so. Amazingly, this also happens when I wake up in the middle of the night (which I almost always do).
I just somehow know that it's about 3:30 AM, then I look at the clock (which I do NOT keep facing the bed) and I'm nearly always right! There seems to be some kind of internal clock running all the time.
 
Ah another phenomena or is it the one that's always there but needs honing? Psychic ?? - A true naturalist?? Is it a useful skill or one that ties you to the artificial man made clock?? well if you feel OK with it that's all that matters really heh?

ps: I do the opposite! wake up and have no idea what day or time it is - and just for a moment I do wonder whether it really matters at all?
 
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nice pics by the way Gary O - what time did you take them either approx or spot on?? :applause2:
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The big moon was pushing 9p (lost track of exact time getting the tripod just right)

The one lower on the horizon is actually the sun.
It was a hurry, a chance thing.
I'm usually in bed shorts and boots...wee hours of the morn.

like this one
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this is wunna my personal favs
a hint of a morning sun, the clouds so complimenting the horizon
silently describing the cold of that fall dawn
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The rise and set of sun and moon give's one much
but the romance is fleeting...a chance tryst
that time thing
 
Unless I have somewhere I need to be, doesn't happen often these days, I pay no attention to it. I have not worn a watch in years [30]? or maybe more.
 
Gary O' said:
The big moon was pushing 9p (lost track of exact time getting the tripod just right)

The one lower on the horizon is actually the sun.
It was a hurry, a chance thing.
I'm usually in bed shorts and boots...wee hours of the morn.

like this one
iyP1UNv.jpg


this is wunna my personal favs
a hint of a morning sun, the clouds so complimenting the horizon
silently describing the cold of that fall dawn
p1ZnOvv.png


The rise and set of sun and moon give's one much
but the romance is fleeting...a chance tryst
that time thing
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God that is awesome Go - hope you live just around the corner - but heh perhaps you have no corners in them tha parts!

yep the more I'm tinkin of it - times an illusion - well our time that is - set by man - but what about Newton - didn't he calculate the speed of an apple falling on his head? - how the blazers he managed that I don't know!:satellite:
 
rgp said:
Unless I have somewhere I need to be, doesn't happen often these days, I pay no attention to it. I have not worn a watch in years [30]? or maybe more.
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that sounds great rgp - you've arrived without time!!:applouse:
 
That's right, Falcon. Whether your view of the sunrise and sunset are blocked or not, or whether you have a watch or not, it still happens, since the beginning of creation. God set time in motion:

Genesis 1:1-31

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was

hovering over the face of the waters. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the

darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day. ...

No sense in overthinking it.


 
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Sunny said:
I seem to have the odd ability to guess what time it is without looking at a clock, usually correct within about 10 minutes or so. Amazingly, this also happens when I wake up in the middle of the night (which I almost always do).
I just somehow know that it's about 3:30 AM, then I look at the clock (which I do NOT keep facing the bed) and I'm nearly always right! There seems to be some kind of internal clock running all the time.
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Isn't that weird?? I'm the same way! Also, I find that when I have to be up by a certain time, such as for an early appointment, I can tell myself at bedtime "wake up by 7"... and I DO. (After being ruled by an alarm clock for most of my adult life.) And yeah, 7 is early for me; I'm a night owl. :D

The only problem I have with time is that the older I get, the faster it goes. What the heck is that all about??
 

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