Trans-Pacific Partnership

QuickSilver said:
I really wish I knew more about this.. I guess eventually we will.. But I suspect it will be too late.
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I think progress is stalling. It's still might get through especially if they use the phrase "fast track". I think it can be stopped but will it?

Wiki Leaks has some copies or drafts of the actual treaty but the simplified version includes proprietary rights enforced with extreme regulation and penalty and that the treaty can supersede the host's country's court system. Senate approves or disapproves treaties so I guess the senate is where to start with a vote NO on the TPP. Or if enough other countries smell stink on poop perhaps they can be convinced to trash it.

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WhatInThe said:
Commerce Committee headed by Paul Ryan still wants to fast track this thing.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/...gressional-input-on-controversial-trade-deal/

But before it can be fast tracked another bill known as Trade Promotion Authority or TPA which is basically the fast track powers must be passed. The TPA is legislation that should not be passed.
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Fast track by Paul Ryan who proposed the "voucher system" and elimination of Medicare which would be a disaster, I hope people wake up before these people are allowed to rape us all to benefit Corporations, Wall St., Banks, and themselves.
 
Just as with the vouchers they are looking for "the" solution to be fast tracking trade treaties. No one is saying you can't have a trade treaty or pass it fast with disclosure but to give someone blanket authority like fast tracking treaties is a bad idea as we see here.

Should add in the most recent weekly address Obama pushed for the TPA/trade promotion authority, not the Trans Pacific Partnership. Again the TPA is the really dangerous bill here right now. The TPA must be stopped no matter who pushes it.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-pushes-for-trade-authority-in-weekly-address
 
QuickSilver said:
What can we do??? This blows my mind... Don't Corporations hate Obama? Doesn't Obama claim to be for the Middle Class... This just isn't adding up.
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These are the "change" that we voted him into office 2 TIMES.
If he could run for third term I'm sure he will succeed
with more "changes".
Don't look at me I'm
an Independent voter.
 
WhatInThe said:
Speaker of the House bonehead ooops ment John Boehner promises to help push The Trade Promotion Authority(TPA) through the house.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/boehner-praises-trade-bill-passage_953464.html

The TPA now in the hands of a house loaded with traitorous Republicons and blindly loyal Demorats.
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The Republicans have only had control of both houses for 5 months,the Democrats have had control for how long? and produce very little ,that's why they were voted OUT.
 
Some people still labor under the "illusion" that there are politicians in Washington who care about the Middle Class, and working people. The reality is that most of them get the majority of their campaign finances from the corporations, the wealthy, and the special interests. Therefore, it only follows that they will "follow the money" when it comes time to propose and vote on legislation. This TPA is just another example of legislation that will mostly benefit the politicians benefactors, so it will very likely pass.
 
Having admitted ignorance as an excuse for quite some time I have been ambivalent about this dispute between a President I've trusted and admired for nearly two terms and Senator Warren who I've also respected and admired. This weekend however, I've gotten off the fence and cast my lot with those opposing TPP just in time to once again be on the losing side.
 
I don't think there has ever been a trade deal where the American worker did not suffer. This is why I simply do no understand why the President is so gung ho on it.
 
Follow The Money!

Follow The Money!

Article on some of the lobbying probably involved and as expected Big Pharma was one of the largest contributors. Also surprised to see some of the fence sitters cave in and vote for the bill at the last minute.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/may/27/corporations-paid-us-senators-fast-track-tpp

And since many Democrats are opposed to fast track I was surprised that 5 Democratic senators changed their mind or decided at the last minute to vote for the bill/authority.
 
Included in the TPP is a provision allowing a company to store records in a second or third party country.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2015/06/04/leaked-tisa-documents-reveal-privacy-threat/

Could be a threat because one doesn't know how secure data would be in a second or third party country. You can install all the computer software you want but if someone gets physical access to servers or even paper filing cabinets security is out the window. Europe has laws in which private data must be stored in the country of business. Storage of records in third party countries might make subpoenas harder to enforce if company records would ever be needed for court.

This provision could rubber stamp off shoring/out sourcing as well. It is also creepily putting the preliminary steps of globalization into writing.
 
I've been following the news on this TPP...what little our government is willing to tell us...and so far, I have Not seen Anything that is going to be of benefit to our workers and wages. This is going to turn out to be just another Power and Money grab that helps Only the corporations and 1%'rs.
 
Yeah.... I have been trying to follow it.. By the way... has ANYONE here called their Representative in the House and told them how you would like them to vote? I called mine yesterday and was happy to learn that he was voting NO!! Elizabeth Warren has urged everyone to let their Congressmen know that this is a bad idea and that they should vote against it.
 

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