I think they should be in a rehabilitation (attitude adjustment) program while they're behind bars, though. I believe some young offenders can be saved.They thought it would be cool to be thugs since life is so boring. Now they should miss boring. Unless adult dopes step in and claim they are just young kids with their whole lives before them and don't let the law come down hard on them.
Translation: They were left to run wild and become everybody's problem, while professionals struggled to understand.Both kids have an "extensive mental health history." And they lived in foster homes. We don't know how they were treated, but we do know what goes on in some foster homes.
Too many young parents these days seem focused only on what they want. They seem to think that children aren't thinking beings at all, and that their actions have no effect on their kids whatsoever.... You love your children but wanting them to have a better, easier life than you had seems to create more problems, generation to generation, than it solves perhaps?
yes it's often written about abuse in foster homes ( my own mother was a victim in the orphanage where she was raised).. however the honest truth from me is that on several occasions I was in foster care as a child, and I was treated better than I was at home...Both kids have an "extensive mental health history." And they lived in foster homes. We don't know how they were treated, but we do know what goes on in some foster homes.
My sentiment to a T!Kids, who perform armed robberies, and shooting at cops aren't usually up for the Nobel Peace Prize, when they mature. Sadly, these kids will live out their lives confined to penal institutions. However they got to this point, they are way too dangerous to be ever unsupervised.
While I can certainly understand your rage and pain, I stop far short of capital punishment re anyone, particularly children. It is barbaric, and has never been proven to deter anyone. A revenge society is not a democratic/just societyMy sentiment to a T!
Too dangerous to ever smell or taste freedom ever again!
Two words... lethal injection!
I am so sick and tired of the young offenders act!
I will never be in support of coddling evil regardless of age.While I can certainly understand your rage and pain, I stop far short of capital punishment re anyone, particularly children. It is barbaric, and has never been proven to deter anyone. A revenge society is not a democracy. If, Divine
forbid, our country ever considers reinstating the abomination of Gov’t sanctioned murder, Canadians from across the board will fill the streets to protest. We will embrace civil disobedience, go to jail, whatever it takes. This is not my Canada.
While I can certainly understand your rage and pain, I stop far short of capital punishment re anyone, particularly children. It is barbaric, and has never been proven to deter anyone. A revenge society is not a democracy. If, Divine
forbid, our country ever considers reinstating the abomination of Gov’t sanctioned murder, Canadians from across the board will fill the streets to protest. We will embrace civil disobedience, go to jail, whatever it takes. This is not my Canada.
At this point, we do not know why these children did as they did.I will never be in support of coddling evil regardless of age.
How do we know these children are evil? They may be so traumatised by their experiences in foster care etc, that they are in the throes of CPTSD. In that state, people of all ages can commit violent acts. Children would have evenI will never be in support of coddling evil regardless of age.
You can slice it any way you like, they're evil in my eyes.At this point, we do not know why these children did as they did.
How do we know these children are evil? They may be so traumatised by their experiences in foster care etc, that they are in the throes of CPTSD. In that state, people of all ages can commit violent acts. Children would have even
less control of their impulses than traumatised adults would. What they did was terribly wrong, but evil is a whole other ball game. Ted Bundy was evil. Paedophiles who rape, torture, kill children are evil.
I am terrified to think under the society you envision, what would happen to the unmedicated mentally ill, the veterans suffering from PTSD, or abused individuals pushed to the edge by rapists, domestic violence etc, whoYou can slice it any way you like, they're evil in my eyes.
That's the problem with society today, looking past the true problem in an attempt to find an underlying problem dating way back to excuse evil acts and behaviour of today.
It doesn't wash with me, nor do I buy into that sort of mentality.
It's unlikely the kids will ever get any help. These days, there is no funding for mental health. In my area, many homeless people with mental health issues are roaming the streets everywhere, endangering everyone. Including "Nice" neighborhoods with 5 - 10 million dollar homes.Who knows the true backstory of these children? If they have mental health issues, this may speak to child abuse. They may very well be deemed permanently unsuitable for release, far too dangerous to walk among us. Their youth does raise some questions, also. I hope every effort is made to unravel the mystery of why they perpetrated such crimes.
We need as much knowledge as possible, in order to learn ways in which we can hopefully lesson the chances of such behaviours happening again. I also hope these kids have the opportunity for mental health services while in jail.
Agree 100%. Anyone who leaves a gun lying around or "Hidden" is irresponsible & stupid. There are quick-access lock boxes available for both handguns & rifles.A twelve year-old's brain isn't even fully developed yet. With the right therapy and a good home there's a decent chance they both could turn into good citizens.
The person I would like to see in jail, for a while, is the adult who allowed his AK-47 to end up in a child's hands.