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justfred

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Who really believes that we get visitors from far off galaxies bearing in mind that travelling at the speed of light it would take hundreds of years to get here. As it has been proved there is no life on the planets in our own solar system where are these so-called visitors coming from?
 

How the heck do you know?
It totally boggles my mind how arrogant humans can be to believe that out of all the galaxies, we are the only living creatures who exist.

We are merely a speck in the equation .
Why would any living creature even ‘want’ to visit us?
Look at how we’ve treated our planet and the creatures it habitats including us.
 
I am not saying there is no 'life' out there. We are not the only planet in our universe that has life. I am asking do you believe that we are having visitors from other,as yet, undiscovered worlds visiting us. As I said we all know that the other planets in our Solar system are devoid of living matter though some may have had millions of years ago, so why would travellers from millions and millions of light years away come here,, stay a few minutes then buzz off again.
 

I am not saying there is no 'life' out there. We are not the only planet in our universe that has life. I am asking do you believe that we are having visitors from other,as yet, undiscovered worlds visiting us. As I said we all know that the other planets in our Solar system are devoid of living matter though some may have had millions of years ago, so why would travellers from millions and millions of light years away come here,, stay a few minutes then buzz off again.

Yes you are right. Why would they? I posted my response before actually fully reading and understanding your point of view for which I apologize. I now understand your point but I’ll still stick with ‘Why would they want to even if they could?’
It’s not like we are so uniquely interesting. Just sayin.’
 
Anything is possible Fred, it would be arrogant of us as humans to think that there's no far superior intelligence out there somewhere, and yes visiting us possibly, so I'm open to the idea that it could happen..or may already be happening. Hundreds of years travelling is only in 'our time'', other potential planetary race may have a way of travel that's relatively instant...

There's too many unexplained and unexplainable events which occur in the world, to not make some of us think we may be being visited from an Alien force...
 
Anything is possible Fred, it would be arrogant of us as humans to think that there's no far superior intelligence out there somewhere, and yes visiting us possibly, so I'm open to the idea that it could happen..or may already be happening. Hundreds of years travelling is only in 'our time'', other potential planetary race may have a way of travel that's relatively instant...

There's too many unexplained and unexplainable events which occur in the world, to not make some of us think we may be being visited from an Alien force...

I feel this way EXACTLY!
There’s more that we don’t know than there is that we do, as far as this topic is concerned.
 
It could be that it's happened.

The method of travel would have to be something other than what we know it as; something far more advanced or totally different than simply moving ahead at the speed of light.

I think time bending or time manipulation would have to be part of it but how, is still a mystery.

However, I'm open. There's so much beyond our pea-brain's capability to understand.
 
I believe that there may very well be other life forms in other galaxies and I also believe that they could be far more technology advanced than we are and would be able to come to earth at will......who really knows for sure what's out there ?


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I like to think that aliens can zip around to other planets , but why would they come here ? Probably to show their kind -- "Look what stupid humans did to their planet" ... :p
 
Followers of "Scientology" think that humans came here from the planet "Zog" in a vessel strongly resembling a Boeing 707.

I find it a bit hard to think that the Earth is the Only planet in the universe capable of supporting life....billions of galaxies, trillions of stars...many of which may well have planets capable of supporting some form of life. Every year, science and technology opens new horizons....hundreds of years from now, interplanetary travel may be as commonplace as taking a airplane flight today.
 
I definitely believe that we are not alone in this universe, but suspect that other intelligent civilizations would suffer the same technological learning-curve casualties that humans face, i.e., despoiling and polluting their home planet as they improve their technology, and warring among themselves. Then there's the challenge of incredibly long distances of the universe, building self-sustaining rocket ships that don't need refueling, providing or growing food for their traveling civilization for thousands of years, plus keeping themselves (and their vehicle) healthy. Now add the inherent inhospitality of space, like dodging asteroids and other space junk along with black holes.

Maybe "others" have dropped by Mother Earth, but my guess is that they haven't. Sci-fi flick plots aside, it seems highly implausible that visiting aliens would keep their (superior) presence under wraps - and even more implausible that they could defy the universal laws of physics by shape-shifting to appear as humans (or whales, for that matter).

All that said, this presumes Justfred is asking about creatures who live in our same dimension. Do some visit or live side-by-side with us, but in other dimensions? That seems a lot more possible to me, if incredibly difficult to wrap my mind around.
 
Why when the words UFO are mentioned most think of visitors in flying saucers from a far off galaxy when there is a perfectly logical explanation for 90% of these sightings. Is there any proof that we have been visited by space travellers? Just because an unexplained light flashes across the sky at a speed that is beyond that an earthling can travel at does not mean it has come from way out there.
I do not mean to upset anyone but those that say they have been inside a flying saucer, Have been spoken to by these galactic visitors have either a vivid imagination or wanting attention.
Maybe you will recall some years ago the American Air Force base at Lakenheath was put on full alert as flashing lights were seen not far off. Armed guards were running here there and everywhere. The road was closed and anyone trying to cross the hastily erected barrier was in danger of being shot on sight. The result. The rotating light from a lighthouse reflecting from low clouds was the cause of the panic.
Many years ago the appearance of crop circles in corn fields was 'the work of visitors from space' It has since been proved that these circles were, and still are man made.
 
I'm a reasonably well educated fella, but I am willing to admit that there are some things that simply can't be explained in human terms and with a human vocabulary. Believe or disbelieve what you want, but we humans are not the ultimate arbiter of how the universe works.
 
I'm a reasonably well educated fella, but I am willing to admit that there are some things that simply can't be explained in human terms and with a human vocabulary. Believe or disbelieve what you want, but we humans are not the ultimate
arbiter of how the universe works.[/QUOT

Of course we humans are not the only living beings in this universe but there are so many that seem to think that everything, no matter how far out in space they come from, are similar in many ways to we humans, arms, legs,eyes heads etc: I agree there is life out there somewhere but in no way can it be compared to life here on Earth. It is beyond human imagination to be able to 'see'. We can only guess. Too many watch too many Sci-Fi films and look at possible visitors from outer space as wanting to destroy us with their 'heat rays' and other unheard of weapons. I wonder if the Martians look at our exploratory probes as weapons of mass destruction.
 
I'm a big believer that science and religion will come together one day and each will explain the mysteries of the other.

Science and religion have already come together and been explained. Depak Chopra and Wayne Dyer are leaders in this field but there are plenty of others proving this also.
 
We the members of the human race are not so
intelligent, but we are cunning and can work
round a problem.

Cats and Dogs seem to communicate with each
other, yet they are different species, we can
only communicate with other humans, nobody
that I know can hold a conversation with any
animal that is not a human.

So there has to be other intelligent beings in
the Cosmos, there are too many stories going
way back in history, "there is no smoke without
fire", is an old but apt saying.

The Hindu scriptures tell about "Chariots" in the
air with fire coming out at the back, Lies?
I don't think so!

Look deeper into it, read some of the history about
the subject, you might be surprised at your findings.

Mike.
 
justfred said:
Do you believe in visitors from far off galaxies?

I don't know.

Let me contemplate my navel and I'll get back to you.

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I would never rule out the possibility that UFO's or alien life forms exist and may have paid us a visit.

I'm always wondering about things like the formation of the Nazca lines in Peru or images similar to this one from an ancient painting that hangs above the altar at the Visoki Decani Monastery in Kosovo, Yugoslavia.

I guess I would say it's best to keep an open mind but be a little skeptical of the evidence provided by man.

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From the point of view of probability... given the size of the universe and the billions and billions of stars, it is likely that there is other intelligent life out there somewhere.

But, imagine that our planet is one grain of sand on a huge beach. How likely is it that creatures on another grain of sand miles away would discover us and have the interest to visit us? Our star is kind of average-sized,
nothing that remarkable about it. So first, our ordinary star would have to attract their attention, then they'd have to zero in on all 8 (or 9) planets circling around it, in order to discover us. Why would they even
want to bother?

I think it is part of human nature to believe that we are much more important and interesting than we actually are.
 
From the point of view of probability... given the size of the universe and the billions and billions of stars, it is likely that there is other intelligent life out there somewhere.

But, imagine that our planet is one grain of sand on a huge beach. How likely is it that creatures on another grain of sand miles away would discover us and have the interest to visit us? Our star is kind of average-sized,
nothing that remarkable about it. So first, our ordinary star would have to attract their attention, then they'd have to zero in on all 8 (or 9) planets circling around it, in order to discover us. Why would they even
want to bother?

I think it is part of human nature to believe that we are much more important and interesting than we actually are.

You,ve hit the nail on the head as we over here say. Brian Cox, an expert in this field said For someone from outer space to visit us, go home, then come back in a years time is like picking up a pebble on the beach, putting it back again then coming back in a years time and pick up the same pebble. Many thanks to all those who posted with their views. Very interesting.
 


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