Vaccines

Sunny said:
Shero, mais oui, c'est vrai! En realite, c'est vrai pour tout le monde. Il est un peuril idiot, sans education. 😄

BTW, I agree about "le ignore" button. It reminds me of children sticking their fingers in their ears so they don't hear what they don't like to hear. And I'd always wonder what I am missing.

To get back to the subject, I think we have all expressed our feelings and our level of understanding about this killer disease and what to do about it. Many of us have expressed it many times over. It's pretty clear by now who is thinking rationally, and who is following the mandate of the cult. And make no mistake about it, all this engineered fear and ridicule of a highly effective vaccine comes from a cult designed to attract blindly ignorant followers. Some of the insane beliefs encouraged by this cult are mind-boggling; yet, a few people on this forum have actually believed them!

Somebody got the vaccine and shortly afterward died of a heart attack, or cancer, or whatever? Oh, hooray, time to start a new topic about how the vaccine kills people!

It's also human nature to hate admitting we were misled, and followed the wrong leaders. My hat's off to those who started out following the cult mentality but finally realized that their health and possibly their life was at stake, and got the vaccine, as any sane, rational person would do. (Except for those relatively few who really can't get the vaccine for medical reasons). As new facts emerge, it is a mark of intelligence to adapt to them. This is true of religion, politics, and following the advice of medical science instead of the rantings on slanted TV channels and social media.

Sadly, the longer the anti-vaxxer mentality prevails, the longer this pandemic will go on. The masks help, but don't get rid of the problem. The only way to put an end to it is to have enough people (worldwide) vaccinated to allow herd immunity to kick in. Those who are refusing to do it are part of the problem.
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Je suis content que vous soyez d'accord. Il est presque impossible d'avoir de la patience avec une telle ignorance. Sigh !

Your eloquent post says it very well and I firmly agree with everything you have written !
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Sunny said:
Shero, mais oui, c'est vrai! En realite, c'est vrai pour tout le monde. Il est un peuril idiot, sans education. 😄

BTW, I agree about "le ignore" button. It reminds me of children sticking their fingers in their ears so they don't hear what they don't like to hear. And I'd always wonder what I am missing.

To get back to the subject, I think we have all expressed our feelings and our level of understanding about this killer disease and what to do about it. Many of us have expressed it many times over. It's pretty clear by now who is thinking rationally, and who is following the mandate of the cult. And make no mistake about it, all this engineered fear and ridicule of a highly effective vaccine comes from a cult designed to attract blindly ignorant followers. Some of the insane beliefs encouraged by this cult are mind-boggling; yet, a few people on this forum have actually believed them!

Somebody got the vaccine and shortly afterward died of a heart attack, or cancer, or whatever? Oh, hooray, time to start a new topic about how the vaccine kills people!

It's also human nature to hate admitting we were misled, and followed the wrong leaders. My hat's off to those who started out following the cult mentality but finally realized that their health and possibly their life was at stake, and got the vaccine, as any sane, rational person would do. (Except for those relatively few who really can't get the vaccine for medical reasons). As new facts emerge, it is a mark of intelligence to adapt to them. This is true of religion, politics, and following the advice of medical science instead of the rantings on slanted TV channels and social media.

Sadly, the longer the anti-vaxxer mentality the longer the problem.
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Even in French you think freedom lovers are uneducated and idiots. Better watch it. French isn't unheard of in the U.S. Actually if those you call anti vaxxers don't succeed in their cause this pandemic really will never end. The noose will become tighter and tighter. The govt. won't give back the rights you sacrificed upon the altar of media driven fear 20 months ago. The elites don't even like you or any of us. We're nothing to them. Some of us know this and push back. Others don't want to believe it so they comply.
 
chic said:
Even in French you think freedom lovers are uneducated and idiots. Better watch it. French isn't unheard of in the U.S. Actually if those you call anti vaxxers don't succeed in their cause this pandemic really will never end. The noose will become tighter and tighter. The govt. won't give back the rights you sacrificed upon the altar of media driven fear 20 months ago. The elites don't even like you or any of us. We're nothing to them. Some of us know this and push back. Others don't want to believe it so they comply.
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Sigh!!!
 
Aneeda72 said:
I think the FOURTH vaccine may be specifically to address the Delta variant. I was anxious to get the first two vaccines, thrilled to get the booster, and I will get the fourth shot, if there, is one and be grateful for it.

As you say, we all do what we think is best for us, the rest of my family will follow this path as well. Cause we all think this is best for all of us. You need to do what is best for you and yours.

The unvaccinated can only spread the virus if they have the virus. When most people have the virus they are responsible enough or sick enough to isolate, a few are not, of course. Once people have the virus, they add to the herd immunity.

But, unfortunately, the Delta variant has changed everything we thought we knew. I do not blame anyone for my son Joey getting the delta virus. But as soon as he is well enough he will get the booster. This is what the COVID-19 doctor, the expert, at the hospital said. As soon as he is well, he needs to get the booster. I can assure you he will.
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I agree, we all do what is best for us. I am surprised your son dr informed him to get the booster..however, he is the doctor and he knows best. My second mom was told not to get the vaccine after having covid pneuomia. My hubby said he will not be getting the booster due to blood counts high on certain blood test. We all respond to meds, etc. differently. One size does not fit all. I am praying for your son's speedy recovery.
 
No disrespect to anyone but I am a bit confused on a Cult Leader for people that do not feel the vaccine is for them. I have not seen a post from anyone that has not been vaccinated saying people that are vaccinated belong to a cult. Now wouldn't that sound a bit ridiculous??? You vaccinated - GREAT - you not GREAT. I took the flu vaccine over 30 years because I felt everyone was doing it so why not... I learned the hard way. I got soooo sick. Never took it again and have not gotten it since. I doubt if I follow the leader on the c-vaccine. It's being pushed too hard and too many unanswered questions.
 
Ruthanne said:
The link with vaccine rates by CNN is not very good. It doesn't tell a whole lot. It has mistakes on it for sure that are easily identifiable.

Let's not be ALARMIST! The vaccines have proven to help those who get them to not be seriously ill if they get covid. Of course as also already determined the vaccines are not foolproof but a HELLUVA LOT better than not getting it!! So, die if you must but hopefully I won't and those who have gotten the vaccines and boosters will prevail.

That national library link is also not very reliable. Try and go by the USA reports. They seem to be the most reliable.
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So...only what you personally recommend is reliable and your judgement overrides everyone else? Do I read you correctly.... no other opinions allowed unless you agree to them??????????????????????????????????????????????? Do you own this forum or do you just think you do?
 
Ellen Marie said:
So...only what you personally recommend is reliable and your judgement overrides everyone else? Do I read you correctly.... no other opinions allowed unless you agree to them??????????????????????????????????????????????? Do you own this forum or do you just think you do?
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Some individuals on this forum have been waiting their whole lives to dictate what others' opinions must be. 😂
 
win231 said:
Some individuals on this forum have been waiting their whole lives to dictate what others' opinions must be. 😂
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@win231 you are confused, let me help. I have not waited “my entire life to dictate what others’ opinions must be”, especially on SF. I started dictating what others‘ opinions would be the second, THE SECOND, my first child was born.

It is the same with most people on SF, does not matter if they have children or not, as most people on the forum have their own life. The minute we all left home, we started dictating, to others, that we would direct our own lives and they could adjust their opinions or move on.

The only one I have noticed trying to “dictate what others’ opinions must be” on the Covid threads, is the person who continually calls people idiots and questions their intelligence when they don’t agree with his opinion. I like this person, I really do. But his opinion is just that, his opinion-nothing more.

This person should learn to present his opinion without name calling, but then, he would get less attention. And, I believe he likes/needs attention. So keep on, keeping on, it’s entertaining, but no one really cares.
 

chic said:
Even in French you think freedom lovers are uneducated and idiots. Better watch it. French isn't unheard of in the U.S. Actually if those you call anti vaxxers don't succeed in their cause this pandemic really will never end. The noose will become tighter and tighter. The govt. won't give back the rights you sacrificed upon the altar of media driven fear 20 months ago. The elites don't even like you or any of us. We're nothing to them. Some of us know this and push back. Others don't want to believe it so they comply.
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Chic, go back to French class. Where did I call anti-vaxxers idiots? "Il est" is singular. One. And he is not an idiot because he is an anti-vaxxer. So take a deep breath and stop putting words into people's mouths.

If someone is consistently behaving like a troublemaking 10-year-old, constantly provoking fights on a forum for his own amusement, making fun of someone because (oh, merde!) she uses a few French words now and then, IMO he deserves to be called an idiot. One person. Got it?

I do believe that many of the anti-vaxxers have been misled down a path that can easily lead them (and others around them) to disease and death. That does not make them idiots, but they are following dangerous leadership.

And Ladybj, you should go back to English class! 🤣 " Whomever it is, they are not my cult leader? "

It's whoever, not whomever. Incorrectly using what you think is fancy English does not convince anybody of anything.
 
Aneeda72 said:
@win231 you are confused, let me help. I have not waited “my entire life to dictate what others’ opinions must be”, especially on SF. I started dictating what others‘ opinions would be the second, THE SECOND, my first child was born.

It is the same with most people on SF, does not matter if they have children or not, as most people on the forum have their own life. The minute we all left home, we started dictating, to others, that we would direct our own lives and they could adjust their opinions or move on.

The only one I have noticed trying to “dictate what others’ opinions must be” on the Covid threads, is the person who continually calls people idiots and questions their intelligence when they don’t agree with his opinion. I like this person, I really do. But his opinion is just that, his opinion-nothing more.

This person should learn to present his opinion without name calling, but then, he would get less attention. And, I believe he likes/needs attention. So keep on, keeping on, it’s entertaining, but no one really cares.
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It's quite obvious you care. And you pretend not to grasp the concept of tit for tat.
 
Ladybj said:
No disrespect to anyone but I am a bit confused on a Cult Leader for people that do not feel the vaccine is for them. I have not seen a post from anyone that has not been vaccinated saying people that are vaccinated belong to a cult. Now wouldn't that sound a bit ridiculous??? You vaccinated - GREAT - you not GREAT. I took the flu vaccine over 30 years because I felt everyone was doing it so why not... I learned the hard way. I got soooo sick. Never took it again and have not gotten it since. I doubt if I follow the leader on the c-vaccine. It's being pushed too hard and too many unanswered questions.
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I have not taken the Covid Vaccines and have no intention to. I live in an Assisted Living and only one other Resident has refused to be vaccinated. Here in our facility, the only ones that have gotten Covid were the vaccinated. Two have died. one was on a ventilator. Think I will take my chances.

Some of the staff have not been vaccinated and it is mandated by December 15th. Biden’s stupid mandate for businesses. I told them they ought to walk off. Some of the real “old timers” here say they don’t want to be around the unvaccinated. They don’t know that I am not.😂. In case they start mandated for all Residents, I have already talked to an Attorney. Would have to see them in court.
 
win231 said:
It's quite obvious you care. And you pretend not to grasp the concept of tit for tat.
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😂😂😂 oh, I grasp the concept. Go ahead and tit for tat me.

My life is very sad right now, I am very sad right now, so playing in the sand box, with a challenging friend (yes, friend), helps keep me grounded and off a mental ward at the hospital. For once, your trolling is actually appreciated. Enjoy the attention while it lasts. 😍
 
GAlady said:
I have not taken the Covid Vaccines and have no intention to. I live in an Assisted Living and only one other Resident has refused to be vaccinated. Here in our facility, the only ones that have gotten Covid were the vaccinated. Two have died. one was on a ventilator. Think I will take my chances.

Some of the staff have not been vaccinated and it is mandated by December 15th. Biden’s stupid mandate for businesses. I told them they ought to walk off. Some of the real “old timers” here say they don’t want to be around the unvaccinated. They don’t know that I am not.😂. In case they start mandated for all Residents, I have already talked to an Attorney. Would have to see them in court.
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Well, lots of luck. Court costs money, and in most states assisted living takes all your money but leaves you about 25 dollars a month. With most everyone around you vaccinated, you may think you have nothing to worry about, but you are in an at risk population, and Delta is a game changer.

I thought my vaccinated son Joey was safe as everyone in his environment was vaccinated. I was so wrong. 😢. Many of the clients in the sheltered workshop have Covid and the workshop closed for two weeks, because so many got Delta. But you have the right to not be vaccinated.
 
chic said:
I get that feeling too. Covid has given them the opportunity.
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I posted about one such fool a year ago. Remember those long lines at markets when they only let a few people in at a time?
One guy in line decided to take a cart with him while he waited in line. Another guy approached him & said, "Sir, you're not supposed to have your cart with you while you're in line; you're supposed to get your cart as you walk into the store." (Cart Police?)
The (much bigger) guy with the cart said, "Why don't you mind your own business?"
The "Cart Police" guy repeated his request.
The other guy walked up in his face, looked down at him & said, "I suggest you shop somewhere else before you get hurt."
 
Aneeda72 said:
😂😂😂 oh, I grasp the concept. Go ahead and tit for tat me.

My life is very sad right now, I am very sad right now, so playing in the sand box, with a challenging friend (yes, friend), helps keep me grounded and off a mental ward at the hospital. For once, your trolling is actually appreciated. Enjoy the attention while it lasts. 😍
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We all have sadness in our lives. There are better ways of dealing with it than taking your sadness out on others.
 

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