Wales is not the place to be...

Well that was an interesting read, sad in many respects, but interesting.

I'm going to share a story with you. I have (had) a friend that was a non believer. He did not believe Corona Virus was as bad as everyone made it out to be and thought the virus was simply a fabrication that was made up and exaggerated to sell news and feed the doctors. He absolutely refused to allow it to prohibit him from doing what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it. He refused to wear a mask even in a crowd, maintain 6' clearance to others or take any precautions to protect himself or others in any way. He was a family man that lived local to the area.

He passed at age of 51,from the virus. Impact on his family from his death has been disastrous. Impact on his family's health and others is unknown at this point.

A sad story as well but possibly a lesson taught by example. I take the threat of the Virus very seriously.
 

Watching news from Germany, France and the Al Jazeer broadcast: There problems are as severe as ours
You think we should not mention how confused the world appears to be-I'm of two minds.
Does it feed our anxieties (?)
I had hoped Covid-19 would be broadcast without hysterical elements-nah
 
Dear Furryanimal, I am so sad you feel that way about Wales, but it understandable. We are all suffering from Covid fatigue.
I have fond memories of my time in Wales, riding the Great Little Trains of Wales, especially the Vale of Reidol.
I was staying in LLanidloes, and had a driver take me all over.
Hope things get better for you soon
 

Furryanimal, use pleasant social media as much as possible to relate to others. It’s not the greatest, it does help. And thank goodness for tv & Netflix. I swore I’d never have it & now swear that I love it.
 
Pepper said:
Are you suggesting we shouldn't have rights? @Ellen Marie. I really don't understand what it is that you are trying to say. :unsure:
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Sorry to take so long to get back to you...... We have a Bill of Rights.... and this is probably the first time that people are screaming that they have the right to not wear a mask. They have the right to meet when they want and where they want. The kids have the right to be in school, even if they are superspreaders. That is what I mean by our rights are killing us. Perhaps a poor choice of words, but maybe I should just say poor choices.

I just found out today.... my sister told me her BIL has covid, is hospitalized, and his entire branch of the family is under quarantine. Her SIL, they recently had a wedding with 50 people in attendance, mostly family. One has covid now, 50 people quarantined. People don't seem to understand that they can spread the disease, particularly to the older generation, 5-7 days before they begin to show symptoms, if then. But they are still spreading it.... and don't want to wear masks and don't want to follow social distancing.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I don’t understand what you mean either. A CHILD doesn’t want to do many things children don’t get to choose what is best for them, adults do. Children can, and do, voice a lot of criticisms, we allow this and listen, and then they do what they are told.
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Well, not really. The adult in this situation is the governor. If your county goes "red", everyone has to go to remote learning until a week after it is not "red." That is what the individual found upsetting. The school districts don't really decide. They have to follow guidelines provided by the state.
 
Spoke to my Welsh friend today. She had hoped to visit her family there this year. She described the situation exactly as OP did. LOCKDOWN. Way worse than anything we have in N.A.
 
Just about every person on this forum has been or still is in a lockdown situation. Even so, I was a victim of the virus and it was just horrendous. But, many more would be sick if not for all the precautions. It is frustrating but you are alive to give vent to your frustrations. Think about it.
 
Ellen Marie said:
I look at the USA, and I just shake my head. No one listens to anyone. All that exists is criticism. Well, criticism isn't effective against coronavirus. A couple weeks ago on a local forum, a younger person in the area posted that he was afraid the schools were going to close and go remote. He said that he didn't see why kids had to lose out on the best times of their lives to give up for old folks in the worst of their time.

You see, the problem is criticism.... it divides at a time when we need to unite to fight a basically unknown virus.

But, the government cannot MAKE anyone align with the recommendations. We have rights in the US, and THAT is what is killing us. It isn't the virus that is deadly right now, it is our RIGHTS
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That doesn't make sense, Ellen Marie. One person's "rights" end where the next person's foot begins. We do have the right to endanger our own health, I suppose, but not to act in a way that spreads a serious disease to others.

We live in a nation of laws, not chaos and anarchy. And we don't have the "right" to do absolutely anything we want.
 
Ellen Marie said:
Well, not really. The adult in this situation is the governor. If your county goes "red", everyone has to go to remote learning until a week after it is not "red." That is what the individual found upsetting. The school districts don't really decide. They have to follow guidelines provided by the state.
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True, but only when it comes to whether they may reopen. Not whether they remain online only. At least in California, public school admins make that decision. I expect that even after Los Angeles Unified School District is permitted to reopen, most of their schools will remain remote and all of their students will have a remote option available until at least the end of the 2020-21 school year.
 
Becky - lockdown's have to be reviewed regularly, and there's nothing to say they won't be extended.

Here in Scotland, we're waiting to hear what "Wee Jimmy" our beloved ??? First minister has to announce tomorrow. I live in a region that has a low infection rate, and my immediate area has had few, or no cases of Covid. Yet, we are under many of the same restrictions as the whole country. At least during lockdown here, it made little difference to most day-to-day activities.
 
Capt Lightning said:
Becky - lockdown's have to be reviewed regularly, and there's nothing to say they won't be extended.

Here in Scotland, we're waiting to hear what "Wee Jimmy" our beloved ??? First minister has to announce tomorrow. I live in a region that has a low infection rate, and my immediate area has had few, or no cases of Covid. Yet, we are under many of the same restrictions as the whole country. At least during lockdown here, it made little difference to most day-to-day activities.
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True and we all have experienced them. But its not the end of the world, but death is for many. :cry:
 
Becky1951 said:
True and we all have experienced them. But its not the end of the world, but death is for many. :cry:
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I hope you don't mind my saying "yes and no".

Covid 19 will clearly not bring about the "end of the world" to use your metaphor, as other threats to our world might do, (it could only end human civilisation if it were 100% lethal obvious!y), but if more die as a result of lockdowns, increasing poverty due to impending depression, undiagnosed cancers or heart conditions due to fear seeking help, or cancelled treatments, and so on, then we'll have condemned them to their worlds ending to save us.
 
grahamg said:
I hope you don't mind my saying "yes and no".

Covid 19 will clearly not bring about the "end of the world" to use your metaphor, as other threats to our world might do, (it could only end human civilisation if it were 100% lethal obvious!y), but if more die as a result of lockdowns, increasing poverty due to impending depression, undiagnosed cancers or heart conditions due to fear seeking help, or cancelled treatments, and so on, then we'll have condemned them to their worlds ending to save us.
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I don't mind at all. What you state is true. My reaction are to posts complaining about the lockdowns are the ones complaining about missing out on their "fun" times, their vacations, their not eating in their favorite restaurants, their not visiting with friends at their local spot or meeting places, their lack of having anything to do etc, having to stay at home, or wear a mask.

I'm just not understanding how some can be so upset over things like that when it means curbing this virus for the good of all. Yes it sucks, I haven't left home since the beginning of February. Is it fair? No it isn't. Am I happy about that? No I am not. Am I whining and complaining? No I am not.
 
Becky1951 said:
I don't mind at all. What you state is true. My reaction are to posts complaining about the lockdowns are the ones complaining about missing out on their "fun" times, their vacations, their not eating in their favorite restaurants, their not visiting with friends at their local spot or meeting places, their lack of having anything to do etc, having to stay at home, or wear a mask.
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Why shouldn't we complain? We have worked hard and looked forward to holidays, theatre, travel etc.. Yes, we must unfortunately accept that these things aren't always possible now, but these are important to us. Of course we are going to moan. It does NOT mean that we are going to ignore the rules, but we don't have to be overjoyed with them.
 
Becky1951 said:
I don't mind at all. What you state is true. My reaction are to posts complaining about the lockdowns are the ones complaining about missing out on their "fun" times, their vacations, their not eating in their favorite restaurants, their not visiting with friends at their local spot or meeting places, their lack of having anything to do etc, having to stay at home, or wear a mask.
I'm just not understanding how some can be so upset over things like that when it means curbing this virus for the good of all. Yes it sucks, I haven't left home since the beginning of February. Is it fair? No it isn't. Am I happy about that? No I am not. Am I whining and complaining? No I am not.
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You've made a very fair point there, but the old questions about how long does anyone expect the rest of the population to put up with restrictions does come to mind, and recently another forum member suggested they might tolerate ten years if it came to it.

Perhaps this joke from another thread is worth repeating here too:
"Mom always told me I wouldn’t accomplish anything by lying in bed all day. But look at me now, ma! I’m saving the world!"
 
Seriously for the Love of GOD furryanimal I implore you to just stay put, you're already sheltered in place and quarantined at home. Any relocation efforts at a time like this will more then likely be psychologically destabilizing and more so expose you to an increased chance of catching COVD-19. I am more isolated then you could ever be and I absolutely enjoy my government impost freedom. 90% of the people in my neighborhood have stopped following the PPE policy and maybe 25% of them just wear a mask. When I have to take care of anything outside of my home I seriously suit up with a surgical mask, gloves, footies, a headpiece and body suit, all disposable and I don't give two good craps when everybody looks at me like I'm from a parallel dimension and I'm still here. Now I know this may sound like overkill but instead of cleaning my home once a week I have increased my home cleaning to once a day every day. Hard and tasking but I feel the effort is well worth it in the end. Yes there are times when my resolve tends to weaken but that's when I pray to our Lord GOD to give me the inner strength to persevere and all is good again. Try it, it is easier then one could ever imagine when they possess the will to survive in these trying times. May GOD bless you and keep you safe.

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www.wales.com/

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www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54598136

www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03-24/welsh-doctor-designs-ventilator-that-could-save-the-lives-of-thousands-of-coronavirus-patients

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_Wales

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Wales

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_Wales





 
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garyt1957 said:
I find it hard to believe cats could kill enough rats to matter.
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My own grandfather was known as a "rat catcher" as a young man, (as a derogatory remark perhaps, though as a farm boy he did catch rats as they all probably had to do back then).

In my experience I've only seen cats being able to tackle young rats, but there may be some able to kill adult ones too, (even taking the younger ones could have a big impact though).
 
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