What a bunch of whiners we are

StarSong

StarSong

Awkward is my Superpower
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Corona virus changes are a drag. I get it. I also get that we are a bunch of crybaby whiners. Waaaah, I've had to socially distance for a few months and (gasp) wear a mask out in public to help keep myself and others safe. Woe is me.

My grandparents would have taken this scenario in a heartbeat over their several years of daily anguish because their 3 sons were overseas fighting WWII. I think of their dread fear when hearing an unexpected knock on their door. Their heartbreak at yet more friends and relatives posting gold star in their windows. My father and uncles would surely have opted for masking up and avoiding friends over shooting people and being shot at.

As a group we need to grow up, face up, and do what needs to be done. Scientists, medical personnel and epidemiologists repeatedly explain how we can reduce infection and death rates. Yes, there are sacrifices, but not anywhere near the limits of human endurance.
 

I disagree. Personally, I only know 2 people who are coping with the restrictions placed upon them by the government's handling of this virus as what I would call "well". Everybody else is at some stage of cracking under the pressure.

I do know of someone who has committed suicide over this and left three young children motherless. There are probably millions of others who have done the same but the media won't tell you about them.

If anyone I know or run into during the course of my life, wants to vent, complain, or even primal scream, I let them. And I listen to them. Often they will say how good it felt to be able to do so. Because everybody is putting so much pressure of people to behave a certain way, to be braver than they can be.

My grandparents would have complained to high heaven. All four of them lived through the 1918-1919 epidemic. They went to work and not one of them wore a mask or quarantined.

Everybody is different and we all have our limits and breaking points in life. This is a time when sensitivity to that could really help someone else.
 
StarSong said:
Corona virus changes are a drag. I get it. I also get that we are a bunch of crybaby whiners. Waaaah, I've had to socially distance for a few months and (gasp) wear a mask out in public to help keep myself and others safe. Woe is me.

My grandparents would have taken this scenario in a heartbeat over their several years of daily anguish because their 3 sons were overseas fighting WWII. I think of their dread fear when hearing an unexpected knock on their door. Their heartbreak at yet more friends and relatives posting gold star in their windows. My father and uncles would surely have opted for masking up and avoiding friends over shooting people and being shot at.

As a group we need to grow up, face up, and do what needs to be done. Scientists, medical personnel and epidemiologists repeatedly explain how we can reduce infection and death rates. Yes, there are sacrifices, but not anywhere near the limits of human endurance.
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Not once since Covid-19 made it's debut and measures were put in place to limited people's interaction, have dear husband or I felt restricted, tied, or hard-done-by as a result of.

I would love nothing better than to see this new wave and style of living become the norm. Nothing would make me happier. Not once has dear husband nor myself run into a single sick person since restrictive measures were implemented. Got to love it!
 

Wow. You want to see this style of living become the norm? All those people out of work because of this virus might disagree. Small business owners who've had to shutter their businesses might disagree. I want to be able to travel again. I want to be able to eat out with a bunch of friends again. I want to play bridge again. I want to get on an airplane again. I want people back to work. I want a thriving economy again. I want a vaccine. I'm not whining (much) but I sure as hell don't want this style of confined, restrictive, mask-shaming existence to become the norm.
 
I've been locked up in my Senior Living facility for nearly 6 months now. I am not permitted to go out more than a couple of times a day and dare not leave the property. I have not seen my son face to face in all this time other than via Facetime. Not the same. I am watched by staff and cameras wherever I go. I feel as though I've been jailed for a crime I did not commit. When I was sick with COVID, I didn't care, but since staff can come and go at will, but we cannot, I see no logic in it all. According to my state and the CDC, they are keeping us safe. I am at my wit's end.
 
i agree to a point what star song is saying --
my self it dont bother me 'especially seeing iam busy' some people need something to grouse about '
if not that it would be something they would seek out - old people is my concern with lockdown-
as they dont cope to well' lonelyness is bad enough for them -and not to see their family is hard '

but the ones with memory loss must be awful --
 
CarolfromTX said:
Wow. You want to see this style of living become the norm? All those people out of work because of this virus might disagree. Small business owners who've had to shutter their businesses might disagree. I want to be able to travel again. I want to be able to eat out with a bunch of friends again. I want to play bridge again. I want to get on an airplane again. I want people back to work. I want a thriving economy again. I want a vaccine. I'm not whining (much) but I sure as hell don't want this style of confined, restrictive, mask-shaming existence to become the norm.
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Agree strongly here !!!(y)
 
CarolfromTX said:
Wow. You want to see this style of living become the norm? All those people out of work because of this virus might disagree. Small business owners who've had to shutter their businesses might disagree. I want to be able to travel again. I want to be able to eat out with a bunch of friends again. I want to play bridge again. I want to get on an airplane again. I want people back to work. I want a thriving economy again. I want a vaccine. I'm not whining (much) but I sure as hell don't want this style of confined, restrictive, mask-shaming existence to become the norm.
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Of course I don't want to see this style of living as the norm. I neither said nor suggested that. I want my old life back, too. Would love to travel again, hug and kiss my grandchildren, visit friends, and do everything you listed.

@chic, and others, my point is that people we personally knew and loved dealt with far worse restrictions than these, and for far longer. Some for four years or longer. Most did so with a great stoicism and understanding that immediate personal sacrifice was required of them. When it was over they were delighted to welcome their boys (and some girls) home from war, happy to have rationing restrictions lifted, and to see life return to normal.

Wearing masks in public, eliminating travel, and socially distancing from others may be a bummer, but they're much lesser sacrifices than our parents and grandparents had to deal with. For several years, not several months.
 
StarSong said:
Corona virus changes are a drag. I get it. I also get that we are a bunch of crybaby whiners. Waaaah, I've had to socially distance for a few months and (gasp) wear a mask out in public to help keep myself and others safe. Woe is me.

My grandparents would have taken this scenario in a heartbeat over their several years of daily anguish because their 3 sons were overseas fighting WWII. I think of their dread fear when hearing an unexpected knock on their door. Their heartbreak at yet more friends and relatives posting gold star in their windows. My father and uncles would surely have opted for masking up and avoiding friends over shooting people and being shot at.

As a group we need to grow up, face up, and do what needs to be done. Scientists, medical personnel and epidemiologists repeatedly explain how we can reduce infection and death rates. Yes, there are sacrifices, but not anywhere near the limits of human endurance.
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I already wear my mask everywhere, except in the car and alone outside. Dr. Redfield said while speaking during one of the daily coronavirus briefings, (back when they were being held), that if you are only with those people closest to you on a daily basis, you do not need to wear a mask. So, if you are in your home with your family only, you don’t need to wear a mask. However, if you have living parents and/or grandparents, you should wear a mask no matter if you see them daily or not.

Does that message still apply?
 
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I already wear my mask everywhere, except in the car and alone outside. Dr. Redfield said while speaking during one of the daily coronavirus briefings, (back when they were being held), that if you are only with those people closest to you on a daily basis, you do not need to wear a mask. So, if you are in your home with your family only, you don’t need to wear a mask. However, if you have living parents and/or grandparents, you should wear a mask no matter if you see them daily or not.

Does that message still apply?
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I'm talking about the people who are endlessly complaining about the hardships of wearing masks when appropriate and socially distancing from people outside their own households.

Dr. Redfield's advice seems very reasonable to me.
 
CarolfromTX said:
Star Song, to be clear, I was responding to Aunt Marg, who said she "would like to see this new wave and style of living become the norm." Like I 've said before, I wear a mask, I social distance, I act responsibly. What I don't do is brag about how virtuous I am in doing all that, ad nauseum.
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My apologies, I missed that post somehow. Like you @CarolfromTX , I have no interest in "this new wave and style of living" becoming the norm. Nor of having it linger a day longer than necessary.
 
I think this has brought out the true nature of people. Some are taking the whole thing seriously and being sensible. Others think it won't affect them, and consequently they put themselves and others at risk. Many people are going out of their way to help elderly neighbours who don't want to risk going out, others only care about themselves.
For me personally, life hasn't changed much over the past few weeks...apart from the inconvenience of trying to get my groceries delivered and getting my prescriptions.
 
Whiners?
Maybe so, perhaps these people searching for explanation.\

Where do we get our explanations; the opinions of people like us carry
more weight than the experts.
The sky is falling-could be, maybe not, once you accept that premise your thinking is channeled.
Same with those that disregard safety measures-'It's nonsense, I'll not wear a mask.'

We can be aghast at the behaviors, that's our problem, not theirs

Your looking at personality types which overrides cogent response. It is not going to stop, nor do I find it harmful. As long is there is an opportunity to vent
 
Lewkat said:
I've been locked up in my Senior Living facility for nearly 6 months now. I am not permitted to go out more than a couple of times a day and dare not leave the property. I have not seen my son face to face in all this time other than via Facetime. Not the same. I am watched by staff and cameras wherever I go. I feel as though I've been jailed for a crime I did not commit. When I was sick with COVID, I didn't care, but since staff can come and go at will, but we cannot, I see no logic in it all. According to my state and the CDC, they are keeping us safe. I am at my wit's end.
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Lois what's going to happen to you if you leave the property?
 
I actually did encounter some people going into Walmart giving the associate some grief over putting on their masks before going in. While inside I saw a woman with hers pulled down over under her chin. Her approx. 12 year old daughter was not wearing one at all.
I have never felt inconvienced or put out. Maybe a bit bored at times when I was tired of watching TV or reading. But that is it. I am upset that I cannot yet go visit family members. But we gotta do what we gotta do, I guess.
I am bugged about the Anti-Maskers protesting, or people feeling that because they are young and/or healthy they do not need PPE.
But as long as most of us know what we need to do, I guess it has to be enough.
 
Lewkat said:
I've been locked up in my Senior Living facility for nearly 6 months now. I am not permitted to go out more than a couple of times a day and dare not leave the property. I have not seen my son face to face in all this time other than via Facetime. Not the same. I am watched by staff and cameras wherever I go. I feel as though I've been jailed for a crime I did not commit. When I was sick with COVID, I didn't care, but since staff can come and go at will, but we cannot, I see no logic in it all. According to my state and the CDC, they are keeping us safe. I am at my wit's end.
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The government believes keeping you in is the safest thing for you and denying any visitors. Sadly it’s the nurses and support workers who are coming and going while working at other facilities who are the biggest carriers of the virus in nursing homes.

Many of the nursing homes are in lockdown meaning you can’t go in the visit your loved ones and some are requesting proof that you are virus free. In other words, you need to get tested and show the results before you walk in.

I hope you get to see your family soon.
 
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Of course it's the staff coming and going and that is my greatest argument. The logic is simply lost on these so called professionals who make all these determinations. Try to get a lawyer to stand up publicly with you on this. My state of NJ has a governor who uses computer models to make all his stupid decisions for God's sake. They are proven so inaccurate, it's tragic. I am so frustrated that I am not younger for I'd be beating on the doors not only of city hall, but the CDC itself.
 

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