MaxHarris
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I agree. just wish the Blood donation people would accept that.Considering that females are the only people who can get pregnant, I don’t see the big controversy.
I agree. just wish the Blood donation people would accept that.Considering that females are the only people who can get pregnant, I don’t see the big controversy.
There is a controversy, a dumb one, IMO. Pregnant People is the new moniker, because of the one or two trans men who didn't remove their female organs and became pregnant "men." So, for those very few people it is now "Pregnant People" and yes, Woke has gone too far.Considering that females are the only people who can get pregnant, I don’t see the big controversy.
This is exactly the story I thought about. ‘Man becomes pregnant.’ No man can become pregnant. A woman decided to get her genetialia altered and got pregnant. This man also purposely got as much publicity as possible about it. In the end, it’s still a woman getting pregnant . She can change the outside as much as she wants but she’s still a female getting pregnant.There is a controversy, a dumb one, IMO. Pregnant People is the new moniker, because of the one or two trans men who didn't remove their female organs and became pregnant "men." So, for those very few people it is now "Pregnant People" and yes, Woke has gone too far.
If they don't have a "Not Applicable" option i write in "N/A" next to such questions. sadly some have had to ask what that means.This is a cracker.....a male doctor, yep a doctor was turned away from donating blood because he refused to tick a box on a form to say..............'He wasn't pregnant'
Male GP turned away by NHS after he refused to say if he was pregnant
No, he was quite correct. Of course the question was irrelevant....for a male. He refused to indicate that he was not pregnant and by not indicating that he, a man, was not pregnant the staff refused to allow him to donate.Pig headed and childish. Sure the pregnancy question was irrelevant but he just had make his "point".![]()
To ask such a question a biological male is not only stupid but ridiculous too. He refused for valid reasons.they missed out because they refused to accept that a 'male' has no need to answer such a question.
'Woke' always goes too far!There is a controversy, a dumb one, IMO. Pregnant People is the new moniker, because of the one or two trans men who didn't remove their female organs and became pregnant "men." So, for those very few people it is now "Pregnant People" and yes, Woke has gone too far.
It does seem that way. If he has externally transitioned, it may not be obvious and he may be obstinate about stating that he’s anything else but male.To ask such a question a biological male is not only stupid but ridiculous too. He refused for valid reasons.
The form should say "if you are a female, or identify (partly or fully) as one, are you pregnant? That handily frees all males who are not in any way female, from having to answer the question.I don't think he is making a big deal, simply not conforming to the introduction of woke ideology into our NHS. Up to a few years ago such a question did not require to be answered by male donors and in fact I don't recall even seeing it on the form when I donated.
Or you could turn that around and ask the Donor Service....Do you want to enforce woke ideology or do you want people to donate. Why is the onus being put on the actual donor who, remember, has donated before this craziness came into force and it is said donors the Donor Service depends on and should accommodate them.I am reminded of the old adage 'do you want to be right or do you want to be happy'
Variations of it fit many circumstances - in this case, do you want to be right or do you want to donate blood.
Although it is equally silly to ask women over 60 if they could be pregnant ( how come nobody has whinged about that being woke?) I'm sure we all just tick the box anyway because we want to donate blood more than we want to prove we are right in some pointless one up manship
Or you could turn that around and ask the Donor Service....Do you want to enforce woke ideology or do you want people to donate. Why is the onus being put on the actual donor who, remember, has donated before this craziness came into force and it is said donors the Donor Service depends on and should accommodate them.
Just a few minutes thought and the issue is easily resolved.The form should say "if you are a female, or identify (partly or fully) as one, are you pregnant? That handily frees all males who are not in any way female, from having to answer the question.
The 'onus' of having to adapt to an illogical question which has no pertinence to any biological males simply in order to satisfy the NHS craving for inclusivity. Why include both 'male' and 'female' in a question when it can only apply to one.The onus put on the donor??? What onus??
He has to tick a box or sign a disclaimer answering a simple question. That's all. No great onus.
The same one women over 60 answer too, although answer equally obvious. Nothing new there
Seems to me he is being a big drama llama over nothing.
your point about women over 60 is totally different simply because it refers to 'women'.
Yep, I agree it's illogical to think that However it is different because only women can become pregnant, a male cannot and the question demands that males answer it.What is different about it?? - it is equally illogical to think a woman over 60 would be pregnant.
anyway if he thinks grandstanding about this is worth it so be it
seems to me he is being a great drama llama over nothing
we'll have to disagree then. I believe he is totally correct by not answering a question that relates to females only and that it is the NHS who have caused the situation by trying push an ideology to suit themselves and not the people they rely upon.It demands women over 60 answer it too and they cannot get pregnant either, only younger women can.
Yes I think he should just answer it, simple to tick a box and no need to do a big grandstanding drama over it.
we'll have to disagree then. I believe he is totally correct by not answering a question that relates to females only and that it is the NHS who have caused the situation by trying push an ideology to suit themselves and not the people they rely upon.