What would you do ? (open-carry rifle in Utah mall)

If that is the way the gun folks want their meetings, that ia pretty smart for their own safety. There are plenty of folks running around in the US with unregistered guns, stolen guns, other weapons of choice, including bombs made by those that would kill in the US for various reasons. I will give them credit for wanting to reduce the odds of some nuts wanting to come in to their meetings and create lots of death and destruction.
 

Why not take a good look at Chicago or New York City areas where gun laws are plenty and who bothers about the gun laws. Only the law abiding citizens as the criminals really don't care. They likely use unregistered or stolen weapons and after a crime they can just leave or toss their weapons without fear of being caught and charged. I don't know what they numbers are but sure that crime rates are higher in those two places, one or the other is highest crime in the US. Life in most of the US is free from any gun violence. Hammers and knives will do well if guns are taken away and anger wishes to hurt someone.
 

Shalimar said:
OMG. Denial is a wonderful thing!
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:lofl: Ain't it??


But I guess that when people want their children's schools.. and their local shopping center free of unregistered guns, stolen guns, other weapons of choice, including bombs made by those that would kill kids and innocent people for various reasons. We DON'T give them credit for wanting to reduce the odds of some nuts wanting to come in and create lots of death and destruction




 
BobF said:
If that is the way the gun folks want their meetings, that ia pretty smart for their own safety. There are plenty of folks running around in the US with unregistered guns, stolen guns, other weapons of choice, including bombs made by those that would kill in the US for various reasons. I will give them credit for wanting to reduce the odds of some nuts wanting to come in to their meetings and create lots of death and destruction.
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Just wanted to make sure this gem was captured for posterity..
 
BobF said:
If that is the way the gun folks want their meetings, that ia pretty smart for their own safety. There are plenty of folks running around in the US with unregistered guns, stolen guns, other weapons of choice, including bombs made by those that would kill in the US for various reasons. I will give them credit for wanting to reduce the odds of some nuts wanting to come in to their meetings and create lots of death and destruction.
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Exactly how I feel about places that I might frequent - shopping malls, cinemas, churches and schools.

On the other hand I would have been interested to see what might happen in a convention hall should one person start shooting and everyone else draw their weapons and starts shooting back.

Of course, if what the NRA says is true, no-one would dare draw a gun with murder on their mind because everyone else would also be armed and consequently no-one would die. A would be mass murderer would simply choose a softer target, like a nearby police station or an army base where there would be less guns.

Did I get that right?
 
BobF said:
Why not take a good look at Chicago or New York City areas where gun laws are plenty and who bothers about he gun laws. Only the law abiding citizens as the criminals really don't care. They likely use unregistered or stolen weapons and after a crime they can just leave or toss their weapons without fear of being caught and charged. I don't know what they numbers are but sure that crime rates are higher in those two places, one or the other is highest crime in the US. Life in most of the US is free from any gun violence. Hammers and knives will do well if guns are taken away and anger wishes to hurt someone.
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Here comes Fisherman Bob.... unpacking his crate of Red Herring. Ok... I'll bite.. (pun intended)

So why not just do away with ALL laws? I mean after all... criminals are only going to break them anyway.. Heck.. why bother?
 
I think we should go back to days of the Roman coliseum games, where violence was contained, dressed up for the populace, and distracted everyone from the political and social ills around them. I wonder who we should round up first ?
 
Shalimar said:
I think we should go back to days of the Roman coliseum games, where violence was contained, dressed up for the populace, and distracted everyone from the political and social ills around them. I wonder who we should round up first ?
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I've certainly got a few ideas... lol!!
 
Well, it is pretty obvious there are a bunch of non thinking, name calling, hateful folks on this forum. I hope none of you dangerous folks ever get a gun. You don't sound a bit trustworthy with something so dangerous. True gun owners do understand what they own and why they do own them. And they do what they can to make sure unnecessary problems do not happen.

Now those thugs and criminals don't worry about ownership or registrations so they often do use their guns with no mercy for anyone. Why insist we all have to be gun free when it is mostly always those without records of ownership that do cause the problems. How many bombs have registrations. The questions just go on and on. No answers either.
 
I am a polite Canadian who would never call anyone names on any forum. Our constitution forbids it. If I am rude, Prime Minister Harper will make me live with his new best friend Bibi Netanyahu. yikes!
 
BobF said:
Well, it is pretty obvious there are a bunch of/] non thinking, name calling, hateful folks on this forum. I hope none of you dangerous folks ever get a gun. You don't sound a bit trustworthy with something so dangerous. True gun owners do understand what they own and why they do own them. And they do what they can to make sure unnecessary problems do not happen.

Now those thugs and criminals don't worry about ownership or registrations so they often do use their guns with no mercy for anyone. Why insist we all have to be gun free when it is mostly always those without records of ownership that do cause the problems. How many bombs have registrations. The questions just go on and on. No answers either.
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Correct me if I'm wrong Bob.... but................................isn't this name calling?
 
AZ Jim said:
I feel sorry for my ole pal Bob. He doesn't know he's out gunned here.
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Jim, I know I am out gunned here. But they all need some challenge for their indiscriminate blaming of innocent gun owners. It is not the ones that do own their guns that is the problem. It is the criminal types that would never admit to owning a gun that are the problems.

Australia also has this same problem. Many of their people own guns and are registered. But gun crimes can still happen there too. I guess I don't worry about that and wonder why folks from Australia worry about our gun situation. Some one also rejected my comments about the Swiss being encouraged to own guns. I wonder how it is that the Swiss encourage their folks to have guns. In fact they have a weapon during their military years and then when they leave their military needs they get the opportunity to take ownership of a rifle from the government. Not a snotty, hair brained government or population there. The US should also go back a few, or many years, and recover that personal responsibility attitude once again and get away for this big brother knows all and all should abide by the central government ways. The US was pretty good right up into the 1960's and 1970's but then started to go strange and want to copy the European style of government again. Something that at one time we fought wars to get away from. I think we have a lot of non thinking folks in charge these days.

Of course, my opinion, which normally is freely asked for.
 
QuickSilver said:
Well of course they would..... They are always oblivious to their own hypocrisy...
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That is your opinion. I also have an opinion. NRA has opinions. None are hypocrisy as you claim. Just different ideas of what is right and wrong. But according to the US laws, the NRA is being correct.
 
BobF said:
That is your opinion. I also have an opinion. NRA has opinions. None are hypocrisy as you claim. Just different ideas of what is right and wrong. But according to the US laws, the NRA is being correct.
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I'm amazed you don't feel that there is just a tad of hypocrisy involved when they want to ensure everyone's safety at their convention by not allowing loaded or operational weapons... but pitch a hissy fit when people would like to feel safe at school, church, shopping malls, theaters, etc.. by not allowing loaded or operational weapons.. You don't even see the teensiest, weensiest bit of hypocrisy there?
 
QuickSilver said:
I'm amazed you don't feel that there is just a tad of hypocrisy involved when they want to ensure everyone's safety at their convention by not allowing loaded or operational weapons... but pitch a hissy fit when people would like to feel safe at school, church, shopping malls, theaters, etc.. by not allowing loaded or operational weapons.. You don't even see the teensiest, weensiest bit of hypocrisy there?
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Not the least concerned as it is part of their job to try to get equality across the US. Just as it is the local, state, and federal ways to try to get complete control over everyone they can. You ideas about things are yours to keep and defend and it is everybody's right to defend their ideas, and that includes the NRA. The NRA is trying to keep within the law and if they think local or regional laws are unfair, unconstitutional, they have a right to complain and try to get them changed. Just as you and others, a minority I think, can do the same. If the battles get big enough then the Congress or the Supreme Court will step in and publish opinions. Then the battles can start again based on those judgements. That is what is great about the US Constitution, we all have a chance and a right to express our opinions legally.
 
BobF said:
Not the least concerned as it is part of their job to try to get equality across the US. Just as it is the local, state, and federal ways to try to get complete control over everyone they can. You ideas about things are yours to keep and defend and it is everybody's right to defend their ideas, and that includes the NRA. The NRA is trying to keep within the law and if they think local or regional laws are unfair, unconstitutional, they have a right to complain and try to get them changed. Just as you and others, a minority I think, can do the same. If the battles get big enough then the Congress or the Supreme Court will step in and publish opinions. Then the battles can start again based on those judgements. That is what is great about the US Constitution, we all have a chance and a right to express our opinions legally.
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You didn't answer the question bob.... no hypocrisy in keeping the NRA convention gun free so to speak?
 

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