Where are the men?

Yuk i can't stand a man bulked up with too much muscle, it seems to affect their brain too

How very stereotyped! :(

Jodie Marsh, IQ 138 ...

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Sly Stallone, IQ 160 ...

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Schwarzenegger, IQ 135 ...

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To be honest, I can't verify these scores, and I know that IQ is not the end-all-be-all of intelligence, but it's a pretty fair indicator. The idea that muscles=stupidity and wimpiness=brains is as old as the pyramids and about as flaky.
 
It would have been okay OH, it depends on the context as what we mean by it. If Phil's sentence had been "Bloody fag fell my knee" then we'd know he dropped his smoke, it's just the connotation of fag's other meaning + bum that would turn everyone's thinking the other way.

We have an unfair advantage here of having grown up with 'Americanisms' and their different meanings to the way we use them from movies and TV. Our weirdo wording was probably never heard over there and must seem a bit strange. It's not even quite like Brit English either, never really was, ours went more Irish phrasing than English from what I can gather, among we lower classes anyway. Each has their own localised turns of phrase that relate to the region rather than the language. There's a lot of crossover and similarities but they're not exactly the same.
 
Um, 'fag' has more than one meaning in British English.

It was my understanding that it referred to either a cigarette or a pile of burning sticks.

Have you ever read Tom Brown's schooldays?

Never had the pleasure.

That sentence wouldn't mean a dropped ciggy had landed on your nether regions if you announced it in a bar here Phil.
Different connotation entirely.

Now I'm totally lost ...
Geeeze, and we think Mandarin is hard to learn?? :lofl:

It IS ... at least it was for me.

It would have been okay OH, it depends on the context as what we mean by it. If Phil's sentence had been "Bloody fag fell my knee" then we'd know he dropped his smoke, it's just the connotation of fag's other meaning + bum that would turn everyone's thinking the other way.

But that was my intent - to be ambiguous. Does that still mean it's wrong usage?

We have an unfair advantage here of having grown up with 'Americanisms' and their different meanings to the way we use them from movies and TV. Our weirdo wording was probably never heard over there and must seem a bit strange. It's not even quite like Brit English either, never really was, ours went more Irish phrasing than English from what I can gather, among we lower classes anyway. Each has their own localised turns of phrase that relate to the region rather than the language. There's a lot of crossover and similarities but they're not exactly the same.

My only exposure to Brit English is from Shakespeare and Monty Python, so you can imagine what THAT mental dictionary looks like ... :p
 
"I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok"....... Shakespeare and Monty Python is an interesting combination.....
i didn't enjoy Tom Brown's Schooldays , but a pile of burning sticks is a faggot..
 
We don't use that much....we also eat faggots; a meatball type thing made out of all the bits nobody else would eat..
 
Oh it's very unPC and going out of usage, but you'll still hear it around. Many have a problem with them hijacking Gay, most I know aren't all that gleeful so dunno why they wanted that damned word.
 
Even as recently as the early '60's the term "gay" was still quite innocent - heck, even The Flintstones used it in their theme song -

When you're with the Flintstones
you'll have a yabba dabba doo time.
A dabba doo time.
You'll have a gay old time.
 
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"I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok"....... Shakespeare and Monty Python is an interesting combination.....
i didn't enjoy Tom Brown's Schooldays , but a pile of burning sticks is a faggot..
I always understood that a faggot was a tied bundle of sticks intended as fuel. It probably has a French origin.

FWIW, my mum used to call my sister and I 'a pair of little faggots' when we were naughty.
It had no sexual connotations in those days.
 
I believe it's also a term for when junior boarding school students in Britain act as servants for upperclassmen ... "fagging". They might not do that anymore, though ...
 
Fags meant either cigarettes or 'gay men' when I was growing up, and 'fag' was considered more polite than 'poof'.
I didn't know the other meanings of it until quite a bit later. Fags are school slaves and faggots are sticks came as news to me at the time. And that they are also meatballs comes as a surprise now.
 


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