Would America do anything to protect Canada if Canada were invaded/attacked in war?

I'm not sure America could defend itself right now. Too much reliance on technology and not enough training (or troops) to fight up close and personal. If, somehow, an enemy was able to disrupt our hi-tech fighting equipment, (no more joystick commando's guiding drones and missiles), would we be able to muster enough troops and out dated equipment to even defend ourselves? :unsure:
 

One of the reasons Canada, a country rich in various natural resources, has such a weak military is that they know the USA would never allow another country to invade Canada and get away with it. Canadians have told me that if Canada was invaded, it would have to be by the US.
 
Given our mutual membership in NATO I want to say “of course” but it wasn’t long ago that we elected someone with no political experience who tried hard to get us out of that agreement. So as much as I want to answer “of course” I have to admit it could come down to whether we once again elect an America-first—and -only candidate with no respect for the rule of law. Hopefully we can get back to the ideals on which we were founded. Interesting read!
Fortunately, the US Congress can push the US President around some, if it needs to. So can the media and the people if they have the will....and if Canada was in trouble, they would.
 

I realize Gordon Sinclair report was some 45 years ago but Canada DID help the US during 911.

How Canada helped America’s during 911

With U.S. airspace closed, Canada welcomed 224 international flights that day. The majority of planes were already in Atlantic Canada and landed in the Maritimes – away from any major American cities. Canada's efforts that day became known as Operation Yellow Ribbon.

Canada's military took control of the skies, implementing the Emergency Security Control of Air Traffic Plan, something usually reserved for times of war. As these measures were being imposed, some 500 airplanes from around the world were en route to the United States

Planes with enough fuel were told to return to their airport of origin, and the rest were diverted to airports across Canada. Fearing the attacks may not be over and worried that other planes could be turned into “destructive missiles,” Transport Canada instructed NAV CANADA (the agency that handles air traffic control) not to redirect planes to large urban areas, such as Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal.

Over the next few hours after the attacks, these 224 planes carrying over 33,000 passengers landed in Canada. Flights originating from Asia were diverted to Vancouver and other airports in western Canada, while planes on the busy transatlantic route were diverted to airports in Atlantic Canada.

Halifax International Airport received the largest number of flights (47 planes carrying more than 7,000 passengers), while Vancouver International Airport received the highest number of passengers (34 planes carrying 8,500 passengers).
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Dealing with thousands of unexpected visitors proved to be a major challenge. With security concerns paramount, each plane had to be searched and every passenger screened. Some were forced to remain on the tarmac at various airports for more than 24 hours. Once screened, the passengers needed to be housed and fed. Local officials, charitable organizations and volunteers scrambled to find schools and community halls, beds and blankets, and food and coffee for thousands of stranded passengers.
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Nowhere was that challenge greater than in Gander, Newfoundland, where 37 flights were diverted to the town’s airport. The community of less than 10,000 people suddenly had to find shelter and food for 6,700 people. School bus drivers who were on strike left their picket lines in order to provide transportation to area schools and halls. Medical prescriptions were filled by pharmacies at no cost, and people opened their homes to passengers in need of a coffee or a shower.
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Alan Flood, of Bristol, England, who was stranded with his wife, Barbara, summed up the feelings of hundreds of passengers when he said, “We were strangers. They didn’t know what we were like. They took us to their homes, made sure we wanted for nothing, treated us as part of the family.”
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Shirley Brook-Jones and the passengers from her flight were cared for in the nearby community of Lewisporte, Newfoundland. On their flight home six days later, Brook-Jones suggested to passengers that they should start a scholarship for local students as a way to thank the community. By the time the plane landed in Atlanta, passengers had pledged $15,000. Word spread and the fund grew. By 2014, the fund had committed $1.5 million and awarded more than 130 scholarships to students in Newfoundland.
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On the 10th anniversary of the attacks, in 2011, US President Barack Obama said Americans “remember with gratitude and affection how the people of Canada offered us the comfort and friendship and extraordinary assistance that day and in the following days, by opening their airports, homes and hearts to us.”

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/canada-and-911

n the days after the attacks, Canada joined a coalition of nations in the so-called “War on Terror.”
In October 2001, Canadian naval ships were dispatched to the Arabian Sea off southwest Asia to patrol the seas for vessels engaged in illegal activity.

In December 2001, commandos from Canada's elite Joint Task Force 2 (JTF2) were sent to Afghanistan to join American, British and other international forces fighting the Taliban. More soldiers soon followed and Canada would stay in the region until 2014. By the time the operation ended, 40,000 Canadian Armed Forces members had served in Afghanistan and 158 soldiers had lost their lives.



The Canadian government enacted a number of new security measures to combat terrorism at home, increasing security at airports, ports and border crossings, as well as enacting new in-flight security rules for airlines.

In 2001, the Liberal government passed controversial legislation called the Anti-Terrorism Act. The law's "preventative arrest" provision allowed police to bring a person suspected of terrorist activity before a judge, who could curtail their freedom — for example, forbidding them from communicating with specific individuals. The law also created "investigative hearings" in which suspected terrorists who had not yet been charged with any crime could be compelled to testify at secret judicial hearings.


These two elements of the legislation had a sunset clause of five years; the rest of the Anti-Terrorism Act remained.
The Conservative government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper tried four times to resurrect the two provisions, finally succeeding in 2013 with the Combating Terrorism Act. That law renewed preventative arrests and investigative hearings for five years. It also made it a crime to leave Canada to engage in terrorist activities and included stiffer penalties for harboring a person involved in terrorism.

911 - operation yellow ribbon - Gander Newfoundland


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9205986/

Gander Newfoundland almost took in more airplane passengers than the towns population
I remember this!
 
Quote: Given our mutual membership in NATO I want to say “of course” but it wasn’t long ago that we elected someone with no political experience who tried hard to get us out of that agreement- Unquote

Check - 😖
 
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Well it’s both comforting and reassuring that you people would have our backs .I sincerely thank you. Keeping up on what’s happening in our world really isn’t something I do , therefore I generally don’t have a clue about government politics.

Today I did discover something very disturbing in that we Canadians don’t even pay our full 2% into NATO and apparently never do.

When I asked why, was told that we just expect you guys to defend us. 😳

Please feel free to delete this if it’s too political. I’m actually incredibly embarrassed. Why oh why would we not think this is important enough? I’m truly shocked. We are just taking all of you for granted that you will defend us.
How irresponsible of us.

This is shameful Canada.

I actually despise people who take advantage of others or take them for granted. It’s a horrible characteristic.

This is terrible news. I wish I’d never learned this.

Oh’ Canada! 🤦‍♀️
Our contributions to NATO are pathetic with a population approaching 40 million. These are 2020 figures:

"The Canadian Armed Forces is comprised of approximately 68,000 Regular Force and 27,000 Reserve Force members, increasing to 71,500 and 30,000 respectively under Strong, Secure, Engaged − Canada’s defence policy, as well as 5,200 Ranger Patrol Group members."

I've always bragged rather smugly, with a hint of superiority, about our Universal Healthcare! All I can say in the light of those statistics: thank you, U.S. for protecting us and making it possible for us to do the things you would love to do but can't afford!

P.S. PP, I can't let your Gordon Sinclair Ode To America go unanswered! To us (my greater family) Gordon was always a rightist blowhard! Not that he was wrong in everything he said, he just ignored some evidence that would have painted the U.S. in a less flattering way! :)

Did you see what I did here, my American friends, I praised you and then put in a bit of a dig! That's what we call passive-aggressive and we excel at it! Proudly Canadian! 🇨🇦
 
Fortunately, the US Congress can push the US President around some, if it needs to. So can the media and the people if they have the will....and if Canada was in trouble, they would.

I"m not convinced that the congressmen in the would be dictator's party would stand up to him under any circumstances. Have not seen any of that.
 
Nowhere was that challenge greater than in Gander, Newfoundland, where 37 flights were diverted to the town’s airport. The community of less than 10,000 people suddenly had to find shelter and food for 6,700 people. School bus drivers who were on strike left their picket lines in order to provide transportation to area schools and halls. Medical prescriptions were filled by pharmacies at no cost, and people opened their homes to passengers in need of a coffee or a shower.

Alan Flood, of Bristol, England, who was stranded with his wife, Barbara, summed up the feelings of hundreds of passengers when he said, “We were strangers. They didn’t know what we were like. They took us to their homes, made sure we wanted for nothing, treated us as part of the family.”
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Shirley Brook-Jones and the passengers from her flight were cared for in the nearby community of Lewisporte, Newfoundland. On their flight home six days later, Brook-Jones suggested to passengers that they should start a scholarship for local students as a way to thank the community. By the time the plane landed in Atlanta, passengers had pledged $15,000. Word spread and the fund grew. By 2014, the fund had committed $1.5 million and awarded more than 130 scholarships to students in Newfoundland.
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n the days after the attacks, Canada joined a coalition of nations in the so-called “War on Terror.”
In October 2001, Canadian naval ships were dispatched to the Arabian Sea off southwest Asia to patrol the seas for vessels engaged in illegal activity.

Gander Newfoundland almost took in more airplane passengers than the towns population
I remember the way the Canadians took in passengers so generously when planes destined for US were unable to land at US airports. I used that story about Gander in my Sunday School class when the text that day was the story of the Good Samaritan. The students asked me whether it was a parable or a true story. I was happy to be able to confirm the report in the newspaper as truth.

As for 9/11, Australia was all in with US from the very beginning because our then Prime Minister, John Winston Howard, was in Washington DC on November 9th. He spoke to Pres Bush immediately and offered support.

The US Australia alliance is very strong and getting stronger. Plans are underway now to build a new US Airforce Centre in Darwin. US already has other military bases and assets in Darwin, and we are part of the Five Eyes Treaty. All of this paints a target on us should the US and China be at war.

It is a myth that US is not supported by her allies. Even though Australia is not part of NATO, we behave as if we are. When NATO countries are asked to step forward by US, we are quick to front up as well. In the news we are listed as non NATO countries. We buy a lot of military assets from US so that our defence forces can be integrated with US campaigns.

We are doing our bit, militarily and during the summer fire seasons in America. It is a two way relationship. US firefighters come to Australia to help us during our summers. We are allies in the true sense of the word.
 
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Bottom Line

If America didn't support Canada, at least verbally,
the Russians could just walk their way to America
across the North Pole in Winter, that would shake
things up a bit.

Mike.
 
Seriously, without getting political, Canada now needs to be assured of ALWAYS having a friend in the White House. This has never been up for debate before; it is now.
I cannot imagine the vast majority of US population not adamantly supporting Canada, no matter who is president... But some presidents might be quicker to respond than others...

It's a bit hard to imagine what an invasion of Canada would look like, but I think its likely any such invasion would be a threat to the US as well. So defending Canada would likely be self defense as well.
there were US 'plans' made in the 1930's to invade Canada
Yep, War Plan Red (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red). I believe it was mostly a contingency in case the British Empire was destabilized. Our military makes lots of plans, most of which are never acted on.
 
I'm aware of the debt that was paid back to the US (final payment) in 2006.
That seems like a pretty good investment for both countries. Left unchecked, Hitler would have ended is expansion eventually, because no one has controlled the world as of yet, and the bigger the empire, the more work it is to maintain, but he had created enough misery and showed no signs of stopping, until he was forceably brought to a halt.

I remember as a small child, my mother was sitting at the kitchen table with the morning paper. My father had just come out of the bedroom, and my mother looked up from he paper and said to my dad, "The war is over." My father gave a nod as if he had anticipated whatever they were talking about. I didn't know there was a war, and I didn't know what war was, but something seemed of major importance at that time. I remember the time of day and the kitchen clearly. The tone of the event was solemn.

Not sure what war. I was born in 1943, so by the time the war with Germany was over. I would have been 1 1/2 years old, and I had developed some language skills by then, and my acknowledgement of importance, but not knowing why it seemed so vital would have been typical of that age, I think. But it could have been the war with Japan, which ended 4 months later. (I'm not sure about my timeline, however). It's one of a handful of memories I have from that time of my life.
 
Perhaps not now. Although there were US 'plans' made in the 1930's to invade Canada as part of going to war with Britain and her then empire.
I've heard of that, but it's not something we talk about much down here. Canada has a vast amount of resources we would love to get our hands on, but there is nothing the US could possibly do that would make Canada a better place than it already is.
 
Or, the Russians could simply cross the Bering Strait and enter the US via Alaska. Much easier than crossing over the North Pole and then traveling through Canada to the US.
This is why we are glad the US own Alaska.
With Trudeau in Office, not sure Canada would respond to a Russian invasion of the United States.
You ‘may be’ right but hopefully are wrong. I don’t know enough about politics to venture this far.
 
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