WWII Nazi memorabilia

Olivia said:
I can tell my story anyway I want! Would you like me to post the pictures of my three great uncles killed in concentration camps? I don't even know why this kind of thread is even allowed here! What is is going on???
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It must be especially galling for Americans due to Memorial Day.
 

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As I posted previously, the final solution today is to erase forbidden history.

The irony is... the never-ending list of historical "villains" keeps growing...

My own American forefathers are now caught up in that PC net and their images and history are now also "verboten."

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KingsX said:
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As I posted previously, the final solution today is to erase forbidden history.

The irony is... the never-ending list of historical "villains" keeps growing...



My own American forefathers are now caught up in that PC net and their images and history are now also "verboten."

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And I have the memory of an elephant and I do recall that according the John Birch Society of which you said you were a member propagates that the Holocaust was a hoax. You dispute that?
 

Olivia said:
And I have the memory of an elephant and I do recall that according the John Birch Society of which you said you were a member propagates that the Holocaust was a hoax. You dispute that?
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I was in the JBS decades ago when I was a teenager. It is [or was] an anti-Communist organization.

I've read many of their publications... but I don't recall any of them mentioning a holocaust, except the horrific holocaust Communists committed against Christians.

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KingsX said:
I was in the JBS decades ago when I was a teenager. It is [or was] an anti-Communist organization.

I've read many of their publications... but I don't recall any of them mentioning a holocaust, except the horrific holocaust Communists committed against Christians.

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Oh, right. THAT holocaust. Any other holocaust you recall happening?
 
Olivia said:
Oh, right. THAT holocaust. Any other holocaust you recall happening?
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Oh yes,

The horrific Muslim Turk holocaust against Armenian Christians.

Stalin's horrific starvation holocaust against Ukrainian Christians...
and Stalin's raping/murdering Red Army conquest of half of Europe
[I get banned from Russian forums for posting about those holocausts.
Putin has enacted a law against insulting Stalin's Red Army.]

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Toomuchstuff said:
My hubby makes WW2 model planes and he wants them to be historically accurate,so he wants the swastikas on the German ones... trouble is the model makers don't include them in the kits. He has to order the special decals from England .

One time he tried selling an old unopened model kit of some plane on E Bay. He mentioned that it had the swastika decals , and his ad got zapped from E Bay almost instantly because he mentioned the decals. As soon as he removed the word swastika from the ad, they let him relist it. What a commotion one word can make !
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Strange not being able to buy ex Nazi symbols over there. I am a stamp collector and collecting Nazi stamps adorned with a swastika is no problem at all. I have several. Talking about bringing back trophy's from WW2. I was just thankful for coming back alive and I brought back no trophy's. I, and many more like me, wanted to put the past behind us and forget it.
 
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I was born in the desert of western Texas.

The little town of Marfa is also in the Texas high desert.

During WW2, German POWs from Rommel's Afrika Korps were held at nearby Fort Russell.

The German POWs painted beautiful murals of the Texas desert scenery.

They also planted a beautiful rose garden and a vegetable garden.

They were allowed to routinely visit town.

The Germans and the Texans became friends, even joining together for Christian holidays.

After the war, the German POWs were returned to Germany.

Later, several of the former German POWs moved back to Texas to live.




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Only a very small minority of the Africa Corps were Nazi's Most were pre war regular army personnel. I was involved with many ex POW,s from the Africa Corps and most hated Naziism and what it stood for.
 
Olivia said:
I can tell my story anyway I want! Would you like me to post the pictures of my three great uncles killed in concentration camps? I don't even know why this kind of thread is even allowed here! What is is going on???
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What is going on is [I hope] the freedom to discuss what [apparently] some folks choose to discuss.

And just a note......If any horrific subject / issue / event,... falls completely from conversation. IMO it is destined to be repeated.
 
rgp said:
What is going on is [I hope] the freedom to discuss what [apparently] some folks choose to discuss.

And just a note......If any horrific subject / issue / event,... falls completely from conversation. IMO it is destined to be repeated.
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I think freedom of speech, in this instance at least, would be better served if some posters had exhibited compassion toward those who lost relatives in the concentration camps.
 
KingsX said:
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I was born in the desert of western Texas.

The little town of Marfa is also in the Texas high desert.

During WW2, German POWs from Rommel's Afrika Korps were held at nearby Fort Russell.

The German POWs painted beautiful murals of the Texas desert scenery.

They also planted a beautiful rose garden and a vegetable garden.

They were allowed to routinely visit town.

The Germans and the Texans became friends, even joining together for Christian holidays.

After the war, the German POWs were returned to Germany.

Later, several of the former German POWs moved back to Texas to live.




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Prisoner_of_war_mural.jpg



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Thank you for posting this, KingsX. My compliments to the artists and to your town for treating non-war-criminals humanely, which is how they should be treated. Having recently toured a Japanese interment camp in California, I only wish we had been as humane with our own citizens.

Olivia, I apologize for bringing up painful thoughts and memories. I just figured that many in our generation must be stumbling over similar Nazi or Japanese war memorabilia and wondered how others were dispatching them.

To be sure, most "trophies of war" brought home by young US soldiers were partly to disrespect and denigrate Nazism and the Holocaust, partly monkey-see monkey-do when other soldiers were um, liberating Germany of various items, partly youthful exuberance at having participated in the triumph over a national enemy, and partly a way to remind themselves that despite the terrible things they did and witnessed during that war, the Allies had, in fact, ultimately prevailed.

To any who served in Korea or Vietnam, did your superior officers address the topic of swiping items from local citizens and villages? I realize most Korean and Vietnamese villages in fighting areas were fairly poor, but still find it curious that there is such a marked difference between those wars and WWII in this respect.
 
Shalimar said:
I think freedom of speech, in this instance at least, would be better served if some posters had exhibited compassion toward those who lost relatives in the concentration camps.
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While I agree to a point...if we started editing another's speech ? Is that not impeding the very freedom of it?
 
rgp said:
While I agree to a point...if we started editing another's speech ? Is that not impeding the very freedom of it?
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I think we have a cultural impasse here, as a Canadian, freedom of speech is inextricably linked to responsibilty. I am triggered by the Nazi subject matter, time for me to exit the thread. Have a great day.
 
rgp said:
What is going on is [I hope] the freedom to discuss what [apparently] some folks choose to discuss.

And just a note......If any horrific subject / issue / event,... falls completely from conversation. IMO it is destined to be repeated.
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What has the Afrika Corps to do with the holocaust? As I said most of the Afrika Corps were in the army before Hitler came to power and were in Africa when he decided to carry out these atrocities and very few went back to Germany till after the war as they were soundly beaten and became POWs.
 
justfred said:
What has the Afrika Corps to do with the holocaust? As I said most of the Afrika Corps were in the army before Hitler came to power and were in Africa when he decided to carry out these atrocities and very few went back to Germany till after the war as they were soundly beaten and became POWs.
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You're quoting me, and I'm not sure I see the connection?

My response was to the actual topic about Nazi memorabilia .
 
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The reason Rommel's Afrika Korps were sent to the west Texas desert is because international rules decreed POWs to be housed in the same type of climate in which they were captured.

I doubt Stalin and his horrific Siberian gulags followed any rules. Russians [who fought along side Germans to try to liberate Russia from the Bolsheviks] who had been captured and held POWs by Western allies [US & UK] were sent back to Stalin who executed them.


Operation Keelhaul

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Keelhaul


Repatriation of Cossacks after World War II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatriation_of_Cossacks_after_World_War_II

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Speaking about Nazi experiences, etc., I was afforded the opportunity to learn a bit about the people in that era. I married a German girl when I was stationed in Germany in the early 1960's, and her Dad was a Stuka dive bomber pilot during WWII. I don't recall ever asking him if he was a member of the Nazi party, but I suspect he was. He often hid his "trauma" from that war in consumption of Schnapps, and sometimes when he was half looped, he would open up a bit and talk about his experiences. He went through a bit of Hell, and was shot down two times, but managed to survive, and get back to his forces. There was nothing about WWII that was good to Any of the people involved. Millions of lives were wasted needlessly, and the survivors often bore lasting scars that affected them forever. Old Heinz finally succumbed to cirrhosis of the liver, from his alcohol consumption, and his post WWII years were not pleasant.
 
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In 2012, Putin dedicated the largest holocaust museum in the world in Moscow.

Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Museum_and_Tolerance_Center


Yet, Putin totally ignores the horrific Bolshevik holocaust of millions of Christians.
In 2000, he refused to attend the canonization ceremony of Tsar Nicholas II and
the royal martyrs [who the Bolsheviks had brutally murdered] in the newly rebuilt
Church of Christ the Savior in Moscow [that Stalin had totally destroyed.]

Also in 2012, Putin helped dedicate a Red Army victory monument near Tel Aviv.
The only one of its kind outside of the former USSR.

Victory Monument in Netanya

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Monument_in_Netanya

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KingsX said:
Maybe if you had fought in the war, you might feel differently.
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Ah, you mean like if I had PTSD, or had seen the human living skeletons at the concentration camp liberations? NO! I lost relatives to the Nazi animals. I view anyone who collects the garbage that was part and parcel to this failed, twisted ideology's existence as suspect, when it comes to who their heroes actually are! That is my final comment, on this thread. I will not return to it. I am sickened by the posts of a few, in here.
 
treeguy64 said:
I view anyone who collects the garbage that was part and parcel to this failed, twisted ideology's existence as suspect, when it comes to who their heroes actually are!
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Maybe you can work with like-minded Austin comrades to restrict such freedoms of speech, expression and association
and have Third Reich images and Hitler's autobiography, "Mein Kampf", banned as it is in many other draconian nations,
[like Putin's Russia.]

Ironically, Germany recently allowed a carefully edited version of "Mein Kampf" to be published in Germany. But one can
still go to jail for questioning the victor's version of WW2 history. As Putin will tell you, the "victor" was Stalin's Red Army.
Putin has enacted a law that makes it illegal to insult or question Stalin's Red Army [I get repeatedly temporarily banned
from Pravda's forum for doing that.]

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And so it was just Hitler,s Germany and Stalin's Russia that committed atrocities. Let's be honest and open on this. The Allies were no angels at times and I could tell a few tales but the second world war is over and done with so let,s get on with sorting today,s problems. What's done is done and cannot be undone.
 

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