hollydolly
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Well Catherine has no Royal Blood , she will become our Queen... Both of Princess Anne's children married commoners with no Royal lineage...
Your Thoughts On Prince Harry & Meghan Upcoming Interview
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Serenity4321
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I feel sorry for all involved
...how sad when so much good could be accomplished
...how sad when so much good could be accomplished
Aneeda72
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The way I understand history, and I could be wrong, the King appointed earls, and lords, and counts as such from his loyal followers. But way in the beginning those followers were commoners. Obviously the first king was a commoner as well.
Then through the ages of kings and queens the children of such had “royal blood” Simply because of their parents. All the other commoners, now aristocratic people, had children and inherited the titles unless out of favor with the king. Then they were removed and became commoners again.
It is all so silly to me. There is nothing special about the royals. IMO.
Keesha, like you, I admired Diana for all her good work, but Charleyboy acted like a rat, and he, absolutely, definitely, I'd bet my house, on him not being Harry's dad or possibly even William's.
I do take your point that Harry looks a bit like Diana's dad, well he's bound to, but he looks more, as I said, the spitting image of Hewitt.
If all those Royals past and present could be DNA tested, there would be more than a few eyebrows raised.
I hope I'm wrong, but I do believe that the Harry and Meghan marriage will falter and end in the not too distant future. They do seem to love the bones of each other, but their worlds and cultures are alien to each other.
I had recorded the interview and watched the first hour last night. I saw genuineness in Meghan’s personality and facial expressions, especially when seeing the pain in her face when talking about her son concerning skin color after birth, and treatment to be afforded to him as the son of a royal.
I found her relationship with the queen quite lovely. She shared a story of herself and the Queen being chauffeured to an event, and the Queen offering her to come under the blanket she had over her knees for warmth on a cool day. A very warm offer by the Queen… apparently a nice lady.
Digesting it all, I see Meghan the outsider entering the realm of the establishment (the swamp) with mixed acceptance and being unfairly treated by the media (fake news). It sounds familiar.
The other person alluded to whose name will not be mentioned was able to fight back, but Meghan could not. Think about it...they piled on a defenseless woman. Where is the sister hood ladies, or is it just “sistah” hood?
I found her relationship with the queen quite lovely. She shared a story of herself and the Queen being chauffeured to an event, and the Queen offering her to come under the blanket she had over her knees for warmth on a cool day. A very warm offer by the Queen… apparently a nice lady.
Digesting it all, I see Meghan the outsider entering the realm of the establishment (the swamp) with mixed acceptance and being unfairly treated by the media (fake news). It sounds familiar.
The other person alluded to whose name will not be mentioned was able to fight back, but Meghan could not. Think about it...they piled on a defenseless woman. Where is the sister hood ladies, or is it just “sistah” hood?
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Okay, so I'm not really paying attention but can't help but glean some of what's happening as it seems to dominating the recent news cycle.
What I like is that queen Piers Morgan stormed of the set in a huff . . . THAT'S entertainment!
What I like is that queen Piers Morgan stormed of the set in a huff . . .
THAT'S entertainment!
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I didn't watch the interview but did see a few short youtubes that point out the 5 or 10 "big take-aways". I have no reason to disbelieve Meghan and Harry and I think they will be happy for a long time since I watched the sincere joy they shared as they expect a girl to be added soon to their family.
But there is one thing that doesn't quite add up. Their concern and disapproval of the royal family cutting their children out of money to pay for their security....yet if they were that concerned then why have they chosen to live in a sprawling mansion in Monteceito CA? That's where the money is flooding away for the security bill to protect the children. No?
But there is one thing that doesn't quite add up. Their concern and disapproval of the royal family cutting their children out of money to pay for their security....yet if they were that concerned then why have they chosen to live in a sprawling mansion in Monteceito CA? That's where the money is flooding away for the security bill to protect the children. No?
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James Hewitt has responded to rumours that he’s Prince Harry’s dad
https://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity-news/james-hewitt-prince-harry-real-dad-484220
Rare photos of Philip show uncanny resemblance to Harry
https://www.newidea.com.au/prince-philip-prince-harry-identical-pictures via @@NewIdeamagazine
I strongly believe Hewitt has been 'leaned on' by the establishment to deny Harry to save face for Charles - For me, Jimmy Hewitt is Harry's Dad, 100% and a bit more too.
Prince Phillip with the same beard? Similar, but not convincing.
Fair enough! I was never fond of Charles either but I won’t share my opinions on how I feel about him. Perhaps both of the heirs Charles and Diana raised weren’t technically from Royalty at all but this is where real life stepped in as opposed to the pretentiousness that the Royals personify.Keesha, like you, I admired Diana for all her good work, but Charleyboy acted like a rat, and he, absolutely, definitely, I'd bet my house, on him not being Harry's dad or possibly even William's.
I do take your point that Harry looks a bit like Diana's dad, well he's bound to, but he looks more, as I said, the spitting image of Hewitt.
If all those Royals past and present could be DNA tested, there would be more than a few eyebrows raised.
I hope I'm wrong, but I do believe that the Harry and Meghan marriage will falter and end in the not too distant future. They do seem to love the bones of each other, but their worlds and cultures are alien to each other.
In my opinion, Diana was basically used as a surrogate mother to bear children who were Royalty appropriate from a man who was in love with another woman and once Diana fully realized this, it was clear from her behaviour that she wasn’t accepting it. She was brave enough to let the world know that she wasn’t going to be shaped into the pretentiousness that came with being part of the Royal family and she did it as graciously as she could. Basically she shook this family up by breaking tradition and doing things her way.
Since the Royals depend on the media and tabloids, I’m sure much of what happens behind closed doors, stayed behind closed doors and had for decades until modern technology. Now with everyone having their own cameras and internet, they no longer have the privacy they once had and no amount of money or Royalty will change that. If Diana’s children aren’t actually conceived by Charles, this could be the beginning of the end of the monarchy.
Since the British Monarchy are basically a privileged white family perhaps many of their British supporters preferred it that way so when Meghan married into this family, this may have caused a huge shift in the support they had. From the response of the tabloids, it certainly appears that way.
Meghan, being an independent woman, a divorcee as well as a fairly well known actress, was accepted into this family but not in the traditional sense. In fact Harry and Meghan broke many of the traditions of the Royal Family.
They show displays of affection publicly. Meghan broke royal protocol by joining in the queens festivities at her private estate; something thats never been done before. This was reserved exclusively for the men only. Meghan was the first mixed race divorcee to marry into the royal family making it the first time a royal member has had a church wedding with a divorced woman. They had a modern wedding with multicultural elements to it like a gospel choir and African American bishop. She had bridesmaids and pageboys who weren’t from royalty as well as star guests including Oprah. Meghan entered the chapel alone and was walked down the isle by Prince Charles. Their wedding cake wasn’t the traditional fruitcake they exchanged wedding rings which isn’t traditional. Apparently the wedding cost $32 million. Correction: $45 million.
A royal photographer stated that Meghan and Harry are the most affectionate couple he has ever photographed. They are certainly more vocal than most other royal couples, which clearly had its good points and bad ones but Harry has always supported his wife. When the press started harassing Meghan, Harry issued a statement through Kensington Palace. While the rest of the Royals avoid politics , Meghan has made statements with the MeToo Movement as well as women’s rights on abortion. They are often informally engaged with fans. Something only Diana did.
Meghan also signed a 10 year olds autograph book with a heart and a smiley face; something the Royals don’t allow since autographs can be forged. She also had a baby shower which cost $200,000. Once the baby was born they didn’t release official merchandise to celebrate the birth of the baby as they figured it was too materialistic. They also skipped the Lindo Wing traditional photo op and instead hosted a photo at Windsor Palace two days later.
And finally in 2020 they stepped down as senior Royals and became financially independent which shocked the world. They stayed in Vancouver, Canada for a while and then moved to California where they live now.
Most of the British monarchy’s wealth is derived from inherited lands and investments as well as British tax payers through a sovereign grant issued by the treasury , as well the social media. Since a big portion of their money comes from social media, then making the people happy becomes an important part of being a royal member.
It’s clear that these two lived lavishly while breaking many royal traditions but we don’t know the backlash they may have received from outside sources or within the royal family.
Will these two survive public scrutiny since the much publicized Oprah interview or will they receive more backlash than they expected?
It does appear, that the couple were warmly accepted by the Royal family so what went wrong? It’s also clear that there was a lot of public disapproval of Meghan being mixed race; something many don’t wish to accept or admit. Were too many royal traditions broken too often? Were they too outspoken? Was organizing an interview with Oprah a smart move on their part or was it the straw that broke the camels back? How will the Royal family respond to allegations of prejudism? Will the Royal monarchy survive in a world full of modern technology?
Who knows? I certainly do however , wish them well. They seem to be genuinely in love .
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There's plenty of grumbling about the money spent to maintain presidential lifestyles in the U.S. But no matter how much furniture they restore in the White House, no matter how many fancy dinners, golf tournaments, floral displays, concerts, etc. are paid for by the American taxpayers, I suspect it's a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of maintaining all those palaces and their huge, formally attired staffs.
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That took some research, Keesha, well done. I had two cups of tea and two chocolate eclairs while I wiggled my toes as I read your post.
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Good grief, the fallout is getting crazy!
Piers Morgan from Good Morning Britain got into his usual rant but the weatherman (I think) told him off for his constant trashing of Meghan.... Piers got up and walked off the set. He is no longer with ITV.
I'm becoming more and more amazed by how much attention this is getting from all over the world.
Piers Morgan from Good Morning Britain got into his usual rant but the weatherman (I think) told him off for his constant trashing of Meghan.... Piers got up and walked off the set. He is no longer with ITV.
I'm becoming more and more amazed by how much attention this is getting from all over the world.
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Good. There should be a lot less ranting on TV. And on radio.
Thank you. Chocolate Eclairs!!!That took some research, Keesha, well done. I had two cups of tea and two chocolate eclairs while I wiggled my toes as I read your post.
( oh drool )I’m jealous!
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Attacking Gary O's intelligence? UH UH! That's not gonna wash! How do you know she is "obviously higher in intelligence" than Gary O?
and what is a parbatty?
Why don't you start a thread telling us about Durga? But, Please refrain from insulting Gary O. He's a good man!
Piers Morgan was friends with Meghan...she dumped him...he couldn't handle it...poor man!
hollydolly
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actually she ghosted him, as she had many of her 'friends'...
What do you mean? As far as I know, she totally ignored him and that got his goat!
hollydolly
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She was Piers buddy until she met Harry... then she suddenly stopped returning his calls ( ghosting)....
****Recent statement issued by the Queen...
Harry and the former Meghan Markle discussed at length their contentious relationship with the royal family in the two-hour interview broadcast in the U.S. on Sunday evening, and in Great Britain the following night.
The statement "issued by Buckingham Palace on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen" read in its entirety:
"The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan.
"The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately.
"Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members."
In the interview, Meghan said the royal family declined to make the couple's son, Archie, a prince or to offer him the protection that would come with that title. She also said someone in the family expressed concern to Harry about what the baby's skin color would be. Meghan has a Black mother and white father. Harry declined to say who had expressed those concerns, but he has said it was neither his grandfather Prince Philip nor the Queen.
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Harry and the former Meghan Markle discussed at length their contentious relationship with the royal family in the two-hour interview broadcast in the U.S. on Sunday evening, and in Great Britain the following night.
The statement "issued by Buckingham Palace on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen" read in its entirety:
"The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan.
"The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately.
"Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members."
In the interview, Meghan said the royal family declined to make the couple's son, Archie, a prince or to offer him the protection that would come with that title. She also said someone in the family expressed concern to Harry about what the baby's skin color would be. Meghan has a Black mother and white father. Harry declined to say who had expressed those concerns, but he has said it was neither his grandfather Prince Philip nor the Queen.
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I know Holly, but after the so called friendship ended, Meghan has, as far as I know, never said a nasty word about him. However, he keeps bashing her, even his assistant news anchor loses patience with him.