Why is ________ the answer to life's meaning for you?

hypochondriac said:
Christians will give their testimony
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For me, it’s been pretty hard line

I’ve had Christians in my face for as long as I can remember

Pisses me off

Finally I researched it

Not the sappy ethereal crap

Just proving or disproving the validity of a Christian god

I did it

From the 2300 day prophesy of Daniel to Revelations

Still, none of it phased me

Kinda bothered me…..because of, well, me

I wanted to play

I played

Then got sick of playing

Empty

Then I prayed

I mean, since there’s a god…..

He…….changed my heart

Oh, I’m still the ol’ sinner I always was

But, I no longer wanna be

So

I pray daily

Sometimes hourly

And I read

About Him

How he died thee death

My death

Not like some hero, giving his life for his mates

No, the eternal one

Separating Him from the Father

The One He had from no beginning

Can’t imagine that agony

Beings of love….like no man knows

The Father

Turning His back

On His Son

Forever and ever

His Son, bearing the weight of our miserable sins

Yet innocent

Yet willingly



…for me



Shit

It breaks my heart like nothing else



I’ll never push any of this on anyone

That would be the antithesis of what Christianity is all about

But

I you ask

I’ll tell you what I know

…and it’s the greatest thing I’ll ever have or know
 

That idea that Jesus died for our sins is a mistake, invented by the Christian church. He died to prove that death is not the end of our existence. He was resurrected to show that we live on after death. This is why it's so important to live a good life because our eternal souls are affected by our deeds.
 
Politics have been banned on this forum, however religious threads are still permitted, although discouraged. Politics or religion can rarely be discussed in a civil manner. It's true that this is not a religious forum, and there will be no specific forums here dedicated to religion.

Most religious threads have had to be closed, and it seems that topic can never be discussed without being disrespectful to those with varying beliefs, and resorting to name calling or rude responses....which are never welcome on this board.

Pepper is correct in saying that General Discussions is the place for light-hearted conversations, serious topics should be posted in Current News and Hot Topics. We ask that members look at the various forums on the homepage, and post where appropriate. It makes using, reading and searching topics so much easier if everything isn't dumped into General Discussions.

Moderation is voluntary and not full time, and our efforts shouldn't have to focus on moving threads around, should really only be necessary to remove things like spam, offensive content or problem posters.

Thanks to everyone for your cooperation.

SeaBreeze
Admin

 
SeaBreeze said:
Politics have been banned on this forum, however religious threads are still permitted, although discouraged. Politics or religion can rarely be discussed in a civil manner. It's true that this is not a religious forum, and there will be no specific forums here dedicated to religion.

Most religious threads have had to be closed, and it seems that topic can never be discussed without being disrespectful to those with varying beliefs, and resorting to name calling or rude responses....which are never welcome on this board.

Pepper is correct in saying that General Discussions is the place for light-hearted conversations, serious topics should be posted in Current News and Hot Topics. We ask that members look at the various forums on the homepage, and post where appropriate. It makes using, reading and searching topics so much easier if everything isn't dumped into General Discussions.

Moderation is voluntary and not full time, and our efforts shouldn't have to focus on moving threads around, should really only be necessary to remove things like spam, offensive content or problem posters.

Thanks to everyone for your cooperation.

SeaBreeze
Admin
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Ok thanks seabreeze. I should have discussed it with you first before posting. I will make this my last thread on Christianity. Maybe you should close it now. I had my doubts actually. just another poster suggested I could do it, so I tried. Ok back to our secular lives.
 
hypochondriac said:
I think Religion is slightly better than politics to discuss. I mean you either believe or you don't. No amount of logical argument is going to either convert or atheise. Its just a different perspective.
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It should be, but in our experience of 7+ years on this forum, religion has never been able to be discussed in a civil manner. Religion is not banned here, that would be a decision by Matrix if it did ever happen. This thread doesn't need to be locked at this time.
 
SeaBreeze said:
It should be, but in our experience of 7+ years on this forum, religion has never been able to be discussed in a civil manner. Religion is not banned here, that would be a decision by Matrix if it did ever happen. This thread doesn't need to be locked at this time.
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In America politics and religion are very interrelated. I noticed that on another forum. Your politics often informs your religious view but not always. Still UK and Australia is a problem too. I think you made your point very well Seabreeze. I didn't come on here to convert everyone to Christianity or bore them to death. Thanks again.
 
hypochondriac said:
Ok thanks seabreeze. I should have discussed it with you first before posting. I will make this my last thread on Christianity. Maybe you should close it now. I had my doubts actually. just another poster suggested I could do it, so I tried. Ok back to our secular lives.
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Most persons that read or post are just individual that like plain old simple words, if you are going to use words such as ''secular'' just to name one as you have used others that I had to get out my Funk & Wagnall again just in case you are using an obscenity. lol
 
"I have no intention personally of turning this forum into a Christian one. "
Then why ask the question, if you didn't want a response. As an atheist, I don't appreciate threads involving working through ones views on Christianity as though it were some sort of right.
 
I think this is the wrong forum for those who want to discuss Christianity, for the reasons that several others have already stated. I especially agree with StarSong. Many of us here are not Christians and do not wish to have someone else's religion imposed on us.

Maybe if there was a particular topic (other than General Discussions) devoted to the subject, it could work, as the rest of us could just avoid it. Hypochondriac, if you are puzzled by this, imagine how you would feel if someone started a thread about how the Wiccan religion (worship of witches) is the answer to life's meaning for us. The question implies that everyone here finds "life's meaning" in that religion. You'd probably find it offensive, right? I know I would.

I would personally rather see a nice juicy political discussion any day. Religion cuts too close to our early upbringing, and which ideas, beliefs, and nonbeliefs were taught to us as children. It is very easy to offend people.
 
I am a Christian and I believe in my religion. I also believe other people have a right to believe what they want. Years ago my friend married a man of a different religion than mine. I loved when we discussed our different beliefs. Another friend of mine would be really upset with me because she thought our faith was the only true one. I told her I saw nothing wrong with having a discussion on all religions. She stopped talking to me. I have always liked hearing other peoples views on religion.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
"I have no intention personally of turning this forum into a Christian one. "
Then why ask the question, if you didn't want a response. As an atheist, I don't appreciate threads involving working through ones views on Christianity as though it were some sort of right.
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Capt Lightning said:
As a secular humanist, Christianity has no relevance for me. We are all just stardust.
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Capt Lightning said:
As a secular humanist, Christianity has no relevance for me. We are all just stardust.
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Lc jones said:
I’d love to discuss Christianity as I’m a Christian but it does tend to get ugly at times for whatever reason it’s too bad too because I just love discussion as long as it’s respectful I guess I live in a fantasy world LOL!
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I see no reason why we can't discuss religion without it becoming unpleasant. I'm genuinely interested in hearing how others feel, and what part their beliefs play in their lives. Sadly, though, there are always those who want to argue. It's a pity that they have to spoil things for the genuine ones.
 
My parents raised me in the Catholic church. With my Italian/Polish heritage it was a given
I walked away soon as I could. I now consider myself Christian, but far from conservative. I refuse to no accept people who have different lives or beliefs or values. I now attend a very progressive, all are welcome Baptist church. They turn no one away
 
Lc jones said:
I’d love to discuss Christianity as I’m a Christian but it does tend to get ugly at times for whatever reason it’s too bad too because I just love discussion as long as it’s respectful I guess I live in a fantasy world LOL!
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Rosemarie said:
I see no reason why we can't discuss religion without it becoming unpleasant. I'm genuinely interested in hearing how others feel, and what part their beliefs play in their lives. Sadly, though, there are always those who want to argue. It's a pity that they have to spoil things for the genuine ones.
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I respect others rights to believe in what they believe in, but I expect the same respect and usually I’m disappointed. I’m not too sure what happened to respectful discourse.
 
I have never mention my religious beliefs to anyone unless asked nor ask another person about theirs, but when I tell some that I was once a member of the Ancient Astronaut Society almost every time I was asked if I am a Atheist.
 

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