People of Color, Innocent or Non Violent Who Were Killed By Police

OneEyedDiva

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It's with a heavy heart that I start this thread. In fact, I meant to start it a week ago but I had to take a break from all of the news concerning the George Floyd case and similar events. I have seen comments by Forum members who seem to feel that if Mr. Floyd wasn't committing a crime, he wouldn't have been killed by police. @rgp even had the nerve to reply that I was making up the fact that several innocent people (of color) have died at the hands of police. As the saying goes "you can't make this s**t up"! I wouldn't want to make up something so heartbreaking anyway. There are many who's tragic stories stand out and I can't post them all in the OP but will keep adding them to this thread.

First let me start with two cases that broke my heart when my son was just 3 years old. I don't know their names because it was 49 years ago. The major news channels didn't feel these stories were newsworthy back then. Jet magazine a publication by Black print media mogul Johnson Publications carried the stories.
~An 8 year old boy and his father were out for a stroll one evening. A cop shot the little boy claiming he "looked like the perp". WTF??!! The cop was never charged.
~A 14 year old boy stole a bike. He was riding away from the police when the cop shot him in the back. This boy had no gun and posed no threat to the officer. Did he deserve to die for stealing a bike?
~In my hometown, a 15 year old brown skinned Hispanic boy was busted for smoking marijuana. This was in the early 1980's. He was taken down by two officers and was on the ground, hands over his head, face up. The cop shot and killed that boy point blank in cold blood. Again he posed no threat according to witnesses. Again...no charges for the officers.
~Fast forward to the horrific 1999 Amadou Diallo case in New York City. Mr. Diallo was shot 19 times (41 shots fired) by plainclothes officers who mistook him for a rape suspect as he arrived home from having a meal. A witness said that they didn't give a warning before starting to shoot, claiming that Diallo reached for a gun in his pocket when in fact he was reaching for his wallet. No gun was found on him. The officers were charged with 2nd degree murder and acquitted.
~In March of this year Breonna Taylor was in her bed sleeping when plain clothes cops, operating on a "no knock search warrant" busted into her apartment. Her boyfriend got his gun, thinking it was a home invasion was in progress since the officers didn't identify themselves. The commotion brought Breonna out of her room and she was shot 8 times and killed. It turns out that the two people they were looking for were already in custody!

~In 2018, 26 year old Botham Jean was sitting his his own apartment watching T.V. and eating ice cream when police officer Amber Guyger burst in, shot and killed him. She claimed she thought he was an intruder in her apartment. Another WTF??!! She lived on a completely different floor and would a burglar really be watching T.V. and eating ice cream rather than getting the hell out of there? How does a trained police officer mistake someone else's apartment for her own? Her alcohol and drug testing results were not released. She was eventually charged with murder and sentenced to 10 years. In a gesture I'm not sure I could have made, the victims brother forgave her then hugged her in court as did the judge (yet another WTF!).

~Philando Castile was pulled over during what should have been a routine traffic stop in 2016 . He had his girlfriend and 4 year old daughter in the car. He informed the officer that he did have a firearm in the car which was licensed. The officer told him don't reach for it and he said he wouldn't. The officer then asked for his license and registration. Mr. Castile tried to tell the officer he was reaching for the requested items when he was fired on 8 times at close range; he was hit 5 times. His girlfriend recorded the entire event and it was posted on Facebook. The officer was charged but acquitted. No surprise. I just want to note that after he killed Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman was caught riding around with a gun on the seat of his car. He is still alive after that traffic stop.

~Kwame Jones, 17 was killed in January of this year under suspicious circumstances after a traffic stop. Cops fired several shots into the car killing Kwame and wounding his friend. The cop claimed a rifle was in the car but didn't say either of the boys reached for it, if it was in fact there. His parents are suspicious of that claim due to the photo "evidence" they were shown.
~Anthony Hill, an Air Force veteran, was unarmed and naked when he was killed at 26 years old in March of 2015. Former officer Robert Olsen was found guilty of aggravated assault, one count of making false statements and two counts of violation of oath by a public officer — but not murder or manslaughter.

~Jamarion Robinson was killed by police in East Point, Georgia, in August of 2016. He was shot 76 times after refusing to open the door of his girlfriend’s home when officers knocked. Police then kicked in the door and began firing.
 

One of the aspects of police work is that it attracts people who crave power & control. It also attracts racists who can exercise & express their hatred through brutality - and often get away with it under the guise of "Fighting Crime," & at the same time, be admired as a hero because many (ignorant) people view any cop as a hero.
 
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Here's two more from Colliers County, Florida that I recall doing research on:

Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos both were involved in separate incidents with the same Deputy Sheriff. Both went missing after "being given a ride to a gas station not far from where they were picked up" so states Deputy Steve Calkins in Naples, Florida.

Google the names. Very interesting cases.
 
It's with a heavy heart that I start this thread. In fact, I meant to start it a week ago but I had to take a break from all of the news concerning the George Floyd case and similar events. I have seen comments by Forum members who seem to feel that if Mr. Floyd wasn't committing a crime, he wouldn't have been killed by police. @rgp even had the nerve to reply that I was making up the fact that several innocent people (of color) have died at the hands of police. As the saying goes "you can't make this s**t up"! I wouldn't want to make up something so heartbreaking anyway. There are many who's tragic stories stand out and I can't post them all in the OP but will keep adding them to this thread.

First let me start with two cases that broke my heart when my son was just 3 years old. I don't know their names because it was 49 years ago. The major news channels didn't feel these stories were newsworthy back then. Jet magazine a publication by Black print media mogul Johnson Publications carried the stories.
~An 8 year old boy and his father were out for a stroll one evening. A cop shot the little boy claiming he "looked like the perp". WTF??!! The cop was never charged.
~A 14 year old boy stole a bike. He was riding away from the police when the cop shot him in the back. This boy had no gun and posed no threat to the officer. Did he deserve to die for stealing a bike?
~In my hometown, a 15 year old brown skinned Hispanic boy was busted for smoking marijuana. This was in the early 1980's. He was taken down by two officers and was on the ground, hands over his head, face up. The cop shot and killed that boy point blank in cold blood. Again he posed no threat according to witnesses. Again...no charges for the officers.
~Fast forward to the horrific 1999 Amadou Diallo case in New York City. Mr. Diallo was shot 19 times (41 shots fired) by plainclothes officers who mistook him for a rape suspect as he arrived home from having a meal. A witness said that they didn't give a warning before starting to shoot, claiming that Diallo reached for a gun in his pocket when in fact he was reaching for his wallet. No gun was found on him. The officers were charged with 2nd degree murder and acquitted.
~In March of this year Breonna Taylor was in her bed sleeping when plain clothes cops, operating on a "no knock search warrant" busted into her apartment. Her boyfriend got his gun, thinking it was a home invasion was in progress since the officers didn't identify themselves. The commotion brought Breonna out of her room and she was shot 8 times and killed. It turns out that the two people they were looking for were already in custody!

~In 2018, 26 year old Botham Jean was sitting his his own apartment watching T.V. and eating ice cream when police officer Amber Guyger burst in, shot and killed him. She claimed she thought he was an intruder in her apartment. Another WTF??!! She lived on a completely different floor and would a burglar really be watching T.V. and eating ice cream rather than getting the hell out of there? How does a trained police officer mistake someone else's apartment for her own? Her alcohol and drug testing results were not released. She was eventually charged with murder and sentenced to 10 years. In a gesture I'm not sure I could have made, the victims brother forgave her then hugged her in court as did the judge (yet another WTF!).

~Philando Castile was pulled over during what should have been a routine traffic stop in 2016 . He had his girlfriend and 4 year old daughter in the car. He informed the officer that he did have a firearm in the car which was licensed. The officer told him don't reach for it and he said he wouldn't. The officer then asked for his license and registration. Mr. Castile tried to tell the officer he was reaching for the requested items when he was fired on 8 times at close range; he was hit 5 times. His girlfriend recorded the entire event and it was posted on Facebook. The officer was charged but acquitted. No surprise. I just want to note that after he killed Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman was caught riding around with a gun on the seat of his car. He is still alive after that traffic stop.

~Kwame Jones, 17 was killed in January of this year under suspicious circumstances after a traffic stop. Cops fired several shots into the car killing Kwame and wounding his friend. The cop claimed a rifle was in the car but didn't say either of the boys reached for it, if it was in fact there. His parents are suspicious of that claim due to the photo "evidence" they were shown.
~Anthony Hill, an Air Force veteran, was unarmed and naked when he was killed at 26 years old in March of 2015. Former officer Robert Olsen was found guilty of aggravated assault, one count of making false statements and two counts of violation of oath by a public officer — but not murder or manslaughter.

~Jamarion Robinson was killed by police in East Point, Georgia, in August of 2016. He was shot 76 times after refusing to open the door of his girlfriend’s home when officers knocked. Police then kicked in the door and began firing.
I would have turned into a vigilante had I been personally affected by these crimes. An eye for an eye.
 
Sadly, even I have heard of a number of those cases from the other side of the world. Sadly, there are similar stories in my own backyard.

You have my sympathies, OneEyedDiva, because I hear your pain. All of us who recognise injustice must never give consent by being silent in the face of such evil.

Aunt Marg, I would probably feel the same way. :confused:
 
Sadly, even I have heard of a number of those cases from the other side of the world. Sadly, there are similar stories in my own backyard.

You have my sympathies, OneEyedDiva, because I hear your pain. All of us who recognise injustice must never give consent by being silent in the face of such evil.

Aunt Marg, I would probably feel the same way. :confused:
Warrigal. The one that really gets me, knowing you are from Australia, is the case of Justine Damond/Ruszczyk.
 
Yes, Aunt Marg, but I don't think racism was behind that shooting. I think it does illustrate the charge that the Minneapolis police were out of control though.

When it happened the thought did cross my mind that this is one policeman who may not get away with it because of his name. It sounded Middle Eastern, possibly Syrian? Turns out his background is Somali so perhaps there was some racism in the eventual outcome after all.
 
One of the aspects of police work is that it attracts people who crave power & control. It also attracts racists who can exercise & express their hatred through brutality - and often get away with it under the guise of "Fighting Crime," & at the same time, be admired as a hero because many (ignorant) people view any cop as a hero.


Is that learned from all your years serving as a police officer ? Or all those years on the other side ?

You really seem to think you're quite the expert. I'm just curious where you received your education.
 
I have a different point of view of this thread.

I think this thread is political unless you include ALL innocent deaths committed by the police. In other words, many Innocent people with WHITE skin have died at the hands of the police. Where are you including those deaths?

Or, don’t the deaths of WHITE people matter? What about the deaths of American Indians? Asians? Samoans? Italians? Include the deaths of ALL INNOCENT people killed by the police and you have, IMO, a non political thread. Otherwise, IMO, you don’t.

There is a lot of knee bending and placating going on in our country now. This is being done to calm the masses and try and avoid more riots, looting, and civil unrest. I, like many, believe the backlash will be severe.

I care when innocent people die. I don’t care what color of skin the innocent person had. However, all the knee bending and placating makes me 🤮. Using these deaths to put forth a political agenda makes me 🤮. And I am not going to pretend that I care more about an innocent black life than I do about an innocent white life. I don’t.
 
Aneeda, I am fair skinned and I think the underlying lament in this thread is racism.
This is has not been my lived experience so I do not see the need for the OP to list every "WHITE skin" death at the hands of the police. It is true that there are many such deaths but somehow I do not think they are equivalent in kind.

The history of black (ie indigenous) deaths in custody in Australia is horrific and in spite of numerous inquiries and reports, it does not get any better. It needs to be fixed. Things need to change. We whites would be screaming blue bloody murder if we were the victims. We whites need to support our brothers and sisters of colour because if we don't, thing will not get better any time soon.
 
the fact the BLM has gone world wide, whether we agree or not cant and shouldnt detract from Divas post
it is a heart rending post about certain folk, black or white something needs to be done about certain police officers
they should not be trusted with a starters pistol, never mind an automatic
and if a drunk had broken into my sons house and shot because the mistook him for a burgler in his own house, well i might just be saving up for a shotgun and a bottle of whisky ready for when the drunk got released...
 
Aneeda, I am fair skinned and I think the underlying lament in this thread is racism.
This is has not been my lived experience so I do not see the need for the OP to list every "WHITE skin" death at the hands of the police. It is true that there are many such deaths but somehow I do not think they are equivalent in kind.

The history of black (ie indigenous) deaths in custody in Australia is horrific and in spite of numerous inquiries and reports, it does not get any better. It needs to be fixed. Things need to change. We whites would be screaming blue bloody murder if we were the victims. We whites need to support our brothers and sisters of colour because if we don't, thing will not get better any time soon.
No, we whites, in the USA, wouldn‘t.

I can’t remember even one time when whites, all over our country, banned together and rioted because a policeman killed an innocent white person. As for supporting our “brothers and sisters of color”, It’s a meaningless phrase, made by people in power to control the masses.

I would not even pretend to understand the racial situation In Australia, since the white people stole that country, as they stole this country, as they stole other countries.
 
One of the aspects of police work is that it attracts people who crave power & control. It also attracts racists who can exercise & express their hatred through brutality - and often get away with it under the guise of "Fighting Crime," & at the same time, be admired as a hero because many (ignorant) people view any cop as a hero.

Do you have any scientific or statistical evidence to support that observation? Or are you just talking through your hat? I know lots of cops and none of them are racists or bullies.
 
the fact the BLM has gone world wide, whether we agree or not cant and shouldnt detract from Divas post
it is a heart rending post about certain folk, black or white something needs to be done about certain police officers
they should not be trusted with a starters pistol, never mind an automatic
and if a drunk had broken into my sons house and shot because the mistook him for a burgler in his own house, well i might just be saving up for a shotgun and a bottle of whisky ready for when the drunk got released...
Yes, I agree something needs to be done about certain police officers. But the thread is not about certain police officers. It’s a black lives matter thread, IMO, and that makes it political.

I suppose I could make a thread about innocent white people killed by police. Or, better yet, how about a thread about innocent white people killed by Guilty black people? Or a thread about how black people, for the most part, don‘t adopt black children or participate in foster care as much as white people?

Or, etc. But I won’t, because I don’t care about what black people do vs. what white people do. I care about what people do. If a drunk guy breaks into my house, no matter what his color, I am running out the back door as fast as possible.
 
And don't forget that young black man Rayshard Brooks who was killed by cops over the weekend at the Wendy's in Atlanta. This stuff just keeps on happening.


I'm sorry, but as soon as you fall asleep drunk in a Wendy's drive-through line, vigorously resist arrest, steal an officer's Taser and then shoot at him with it, you have crossed a line of some sort. The cop who shot Mr. Brooks may have made a split-second error in judgment - and if so he should be punished - but it's quite possible he thought his partner's life was in danger. After all, if his partner was incapacitated, then a drunken, violent Rayshard Brooks could easily have taken his pistol as well. This situation was very different from the one involving George Floyd.

All this hand-wringing about whose lives matter is absurd. The "black community" doesn't exist. Blacks murder other black people at atrocious rates (over 90 percent of US murders are black on black). They commit the majority of violent crimes, despite being only 12 percent of the population. They have destroyed the structure of the family with 75 percent illegitimacy rates.

If black lives really mattered, black people would urge each other to emulate the family structures, work ethic, respect for law, and embrace of education displayed by Asian-Americans. Then maybe they could out-earn white people, just as Asians do.

But that's hard to do. It's a lot easier to yammer on about "systemic racism" and burn down the local Wendy's.
 
It's with a heavy heart that I start this thread. In fact, I meant to start it a week ago but I had to take a break from all of the news concerning the George Floyd case and similar events. I have seen comments by Forum members who seem to feel that if Mr. Floyd wasn't committing a crime, he wouldn't have been killed by police. @rgp even had the nerve to reply that I was making up the fact that several innocent people (of color) have died at the hands of police. As the saying goes "you can't make this s**t up"! I wouldn't want to make up something so heartbreaking anyway. There are many who's tragic stories stand out and I can't post them all in the OP but will keep adding them to this thread.

First let me start with two cases that broke my heart when my son was just 3 years old. I don't know their names because it was 49 years ago. The major news channels didn't feel these stories were newsworthy back then. Jet magazine a publication by Black print media mogul Johnson Publications carried the stories.
~An 8 year old boy and his father were out for a stroll one evening. A cop shot the little boy claiming he "looked like the perp". WTF??!! The cop was never charged.
~A 14 year old boy stole a bike. He was riding away from the police when the cop shot him in the back. This boy had no gun and posed no threat to the officer. Did he deserve to die for stealing a bike?
~In my hometown, a 15 year old brown skinned Hispanic boy was busted for smoking marijuana. This was in the early 1980's. He was taken down by two officers and was on the ground, hands over his head, face up. The cop shot and killed that boy point blank in cold blood. Again he posed no threat according to witnesses. Again...no charges for the officers.
~Fast forward to the horrific 1999 Amadou Diallo case in New York City. Mr. Diallo was shot 19 times (41 shots fired) by plainclothes officers who mistook him for a rape suspect as he arrived home from having a meal. A witness said that they didn't give a warning before starting to shoot, claiming that Diallo reached for a gun in his pocket when in fact he was reaching for his wallet. No gun was found on him. The officers were charged with 2nd degree murder and acquitted.
~In March of this year Breonna Taylor was in her bed sleeping when plain clothes cops, operating on a "no knock search warrant" busted into her apartment. Her boyfriend got his gun, thinking it was a home invasion was in progress since the officers didn't identify themselves. The commotion brought Breonna out of her room and she was shot 8 times and killed. It turns out that the two people they were looking for were already in custody!

~In 2018, 26 year old Botham Jean was sitting his his own apartment watching T.V. and eating ice cream when police officer Amber Guyger burst in, shot and killed him. She claimed she thought he was an intruder in her apartment. Another WTF??!! She lived on a completely different floor and would a burglar really be watching T.V. and eating ice cream rather than getting the hell out of there? How does a trained police officer mistake someone else's apartment for her own? Her alcohol and drug testing results were not released. She was eventually charged with murder and sentenced to 10 years. In a gesture I'm not sure I could have made, the victims brother forgave her then hugged her in court as did the judge (yet another WTF!).

~Philando Castile was pulled over during what should have been a routine traffic stop in 2016 . He had his girlfriend and 4 year old daughter in the car. He informed the officer that he did have a firearm in the car which was licensed. The officer told him don't reach for it and he said he wouldn't. The officer then asked for his license and registration. Mr. Castile tried to tell the officer he was reaching for the requested items when he was fired on 8 times at close range; he was hit 5 times. His girlfriend recorded the entire event and it was posted on Facebook. The officer was charged but acquitted. No surprise. I just want to note that after he killed Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman was caught riding around with a gun on the seat of his car. He is still alive after that traffic stop.

~Kwame Jones, 17 was killed in January of this year under suspicious circumstances after a traffic stop. Cops fired several shots into the car killing Kwame and wounding his friend. The cop claimed a rifle was in the car but didn't say either of the boys reached for it, if it was in fact there. His parents are suspicious of that claim due to the photo "evidence" they were shown.
~Anthony Hill, an Air Force veteran, was unarmed and naked when he was killed at 26 years old in March of 2015. Former officer Robert Olsen was found guilty of aggravated assault, one count of making false statements and two counts of violation of oath by a public officer — but not murder or manslaughter.

~Jamarion Robinson was killed by police in East Point, Georgia, in August of 2016. He was shot 76 times after refusing to open the door of his girlfriend’s home when officers knocked. Police then kicked in the door and began firing.

@OneEyedDiva ,Very well said and I agree with you 100%.
 
Is that learned from all your years serving as a police officer ? Or all those years on the other side ?

You really seem to think you're quite the expert. I'm just curious where you received your education.
Speaking of education, it looks like you finally learned the difference between "Your" and "You're." Congratulations!
 
Speaking of education, it looks like you finally learned the difference between "Your" and "You're." Congratulations!
Actually problems like that are usually computer generated as we all know. iPhones are especially bad at changing what we write. If you didn’t know this, CONGRATULATIONS! @win231 now you do. 😂
 
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Only one CONGRATULATION, Aneeda? Isn't that word usually plural? Come on, can't you muster up even a second CONGRATULATION? Wow, talk about stingy.

Win, I think you deserve a second one. So I'll give it to you. (Trust Aneeda to not even get an attempt at sarcasm right!)

About the latest attempt by the far-righters here to deflect away from the truth, it would be interesting to see statistics on the number of black people shot by the police, especially when they are doing nothing wrong, and compare it to the number of white people similarly treated. This whole thing has the stink of slavery days and Jim Crow laws. Anyone who can't see that has blinders on,
 


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