What do women really want?

How many of us, regardless of gender REALLY know what we want? That seems to be one of life's big questions: What the heck am I doing here, and what do I want? ;)

Ahhh, the eternal question of life's purpose.

As Shalimar pointed out, about being "handled", I think is just not something any human being appreciates regardless of who is trying to pull that stunt. I doubt that either gender wants this kind of treatment. I have never understood why we can't all take each other at "face value" and accept each other as we are without the "handling", gaming, trying to control, etc. Treat others as we ourselves want to be treated. Life would be far simpler.

Tony
 
Instead of "handle" read "manage", although it may not scan so well in the song, so whoever wrote it used a word to mean the same thing, (he /she didn't mean physically handle did they).

Anyone taking objection to the word probably meant quite innocently has fallen into a bit of a trap though, because if you listened to Bryn Terfel singing you'll know the last line is, " How to handle a woman, is to love her, simply love her",(and who doesn't want that, man or woman?). :love:.
 
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grahamg said:
Instead of "handle" read "manage", although it may not scan so well in the song, so wherever wrote it used a word to mean the same thing, (he /she didn't mean physically handle did they).

Anyone taking objection to the word probably meant quite innocently has fallen into a bit of a trap though, because if you listened to Bry Terfel singing you'll know the last line is, " How to handle a woman, is to love her, simply love her",(and who doesn't want that, man or woman?). :love:.
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I admit to not listening to the song at all, but instead joined the conversation based on what the women here contributed. I can see what you are getting at, but I still think that "handle" or "manage" are loaded terms, and based on comments here, women seem to be tired of either term being applied to them in any context. So this is probably a bit odd in a way because I see more than one point here, but I would put more weight on the opinions of those to whom the term being discussed is being applied.

Tony
 
I have never thought of my wife as being "my woman" because she has always been her own person to be respected, rather than possessed. Of course the term "my wife" is possessive, but then to her, I am "her husband", but not "my man". Funny world, isn't it? :)

Completely separate subject, but somehow tangential, I have always thought it weird that a person can "own" a pet such as a dog or cat. These are living things with lives of their own. We may choose to form a bond with them and take care of them, but never truly "own" them like we would a car or TV.

I suppose I have a strange way of looking at these things. o_O

Tony
 
I think I, and our family, have been "handled" for the past 64 years, all by the same woman. The kids have problems and who do they call - - Mom! Who do I call if I have a problem - -the same Mom.

Except for 5 or 6 years, she's been one of the "stay at home moms", much derided by modern day women. For all 4 of our kids, grandkids, and great grands that followed, she was the "go to" person in our family. Much loved for the time and patience that she had for all of us.
 
tbeltrans said:
I have never thought of my wife as being "my woman" because she has always been her own person to be respected, rather than possessed. Of course the term "my wife" is possessive, but then to her, I am "her husband", but not "my man". Funny world, isn't it? :)

Completely separate subject, but somehow tangential, I have always thought it weird that a person can "own" a pet such as a dog or cat. These are living things with lives of their own. We may choose to form a bond with them and take care of them, but never truly "own" them like we would a car or TV.

I suppose I have a strange way of looking at these things. o_O

Tony
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Well, few of us rarely own a car, 😂, we just pay and pay and pay, then trade it in, and pay and pay, and pay. It’s the bank that owns most of the cars. We just keep the banks cars clean and in working condition.
 
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Aneeda72 said:
Well, few of us rarely own a car, 😂, we just pay and pay and pay, then trade it in, and pay and pay, and pay. It’s the bank that owns most of the cars. We just keep the banks cars clean and in working condition.
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Nice one! I have always paid cash for my car, as does my wife. We have always chosen to live debt-free (except our mortgage that we paid off 10 years early). We have never owned new cars because we buy what we can afford. My car is 20 years old, my wife's is 18 years old, both are still doing fine and neither has had any serious problems.

That said, your point is well made, since I suspect many people do borrow to buy cars. :)

Tony
 
tbeltrans said:
Nice one! I have always paid cash for my car, as does my wife. We have always chosen to live debt-free (except our mortgage that we paid off 10 years early). We have never owned new cars because we buy what we can afford. My car is 20 years old, my wife's is 18 years old, both are still doing fine and neither has had any serious problems.

That said, your point is well made, since I suspect many people do borrow to buy cars. :)

Tony
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And how about those who "rent" their vehicles?

Between dear husband and myself, we know MANY who lease their vehicles, because the payments are cheaper, and at the end of the term, they hand the keys back to the dealer and drive home in a brand spanking new one.

That sort of mentality I will NEVER understand.
 
Aunt Marg said:
And how about those who "rent" their vehicles?

Between dear husband and myself, we know MANY who lease their vehicles, because the payments are cheaper, and at the end of the term, they hand the keys back to the dealer and drive home in a brand spanking new one.

That sort of mentality I will NEVER understand.
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Good point. Leasing is renting, so it is similar to renting an apartment or furniture or whatever else people can rent these days. To me, with limited understanding of leasing a vehicle, it seems that for a business, it might make sense since they would write off the cost. From what I have read, it doesn't make a good financial choice for private individuals. But for those who must make payments, if it is less expensive per month, then maybe that is better than not having a car.

I learned long ago to pay myself first, so I pay myself a "car payment" every month so that when it comes time to buy a car, I don't need to borrow. Also, I check to see how much I have then to spend on a car, and stay within that limit. Hence, I have never owned a new car. Fortunately, cars for me are simply a tool to get from point A to point B and back. If we take a long road trip, we rent a car rather than putting miles on our own vehicles. We don't often do that, so it works out fine for us. Everybody has to work out what works for them, and this is what works for us.

I have read a number of time in magazine articles about stress and insomnia, that it is money issues that cause these things for a great number of people. I could see that, especially when something big happens to the economy, or the individual layoff, and suddenly, the music stops. All that debt comes crashing down, rapidly eating up whatever cash and savings a person might have. I would not want to live like that, and we have consciously chosen not to.

Tony
 
tbeltrans said:
Good point. Leasing is renting, so it is similar to renting an apartment or furniture or whatever else people can rent these days. To me, with limited understanding of leasing a vehicle, it seems that for a business, it might make sense since they would write off the cost. From what I have read, it doesn't make a good financial choice for private individuals. But for those who must make payments, if it is less expensive per month, then maybe that is better than not having a car.

I learned long ago to pay myself first, so I pay myself a "car payment" every month so that when it comes time to buy a car, I don't need to borrow. Also, I check to see how much I have then to spend on a car, and stay within that limit. Hence, I have never owned a new car. Fortunately, cars for me are simply a tool to get from point A to point B and back. If we take a long road trip, we rent a car rather than putting miles on our own vehicles. We don't often do that, so it works out fine for us. Everybody has to work out what works for them, and this is what works for us.

I have read a number of time in magazine articles about stress and insomnia, that it is money issues that cause these things for a great number of people. I could see that, especially when something big happens to the economy, or the individual layoff, and suddenly, the music stops. All that debt comes crashing down, rapidly eating up whatever cash and savings a person might have. I would not want to live like that, and we have consciously chosen not to.

Tony
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Well said, Tony.

Dear husband and I know a couple who are destined to die before they'll ever be able to afford to retire. Their priorities are misguided. They complain about being broke, and they are, living paycheck to paycheck each month, yet the just finished paying off one of the vehicles they own, and they're already talking about buying a brand spanking new replacement for it, so as the old saying goes, people are the product of their own making.

Dear husband is friends with a gentleman who has seen his fair-share of tough and trying times, and a few years back when said gentleman was nearing financial collapse, dear husband tried stepping in to provide him with a sense of direction, yet said gentleman pooh-poohed dear husband's kindness, expressing to dear husband that he was in control, and that he would be able to dig himself out in a handful of years.

Two years later the man's marriage ended, they lost the house, and then the man lost his job. The man is now in his early 60's, and he has nothing.
 
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