Derek Chauvin's sentencing is tomorrow. What will it be?

Della said:
Chauvin was not acting as any of those people. He was acting as a cop trying to subdue an unruly suspect so he could take him to court. The Cup Foods manager called the police for help. Just as the police don't get to be judge and jury, neither do they get to decide which calls to take, and they don't get to decide to simply let some suspects go because the crime they're accused of isn't that serious.

Chauvin will probably die in prison, so essentially he got life in prison for accidentally killing a suspect while trying to subdue him. He shouldn't have used the knee hold and he should have let up when Floyd stopped moving and talking, so I think he should have been convicted of manslaughter and I think he should have been sentenced to prison for that, but 22 years is too much.

She said, "Derek, you're my favorite son." His mother was making a little running joke that lots of mothers make when they only have one son. The joke didn't come off, but she seemed like a very nervous, shy woman. She was heartbroken to see her son going to prison.

I see the blood thirsty, angry mob outside the courthouse isn't satisfied. Someone here said that Christians teach "an eye for an eye." No, that's Old Testament law. Christ asked us to forgive and have mercy, even for murderers.
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Nor should they be.
 
Since joining the police force in 2001, Chauvin alone has had 18 complaints filed against him, only two of which were “closed with discipline,” CNN reports. A database that documents instances of police brutality listed seven complaints against Chauvin that have all been “closed” and resulted in “no discipline." Other reports documented his involvement in multiple violent, and deadly cases of police abuse.

According to CNN, in 2006, Chauvin and five other officers shot and killed a man who had stabbed his girlfriend and a friend. Two years later, he was reportedly involved in an altercation with an individual suspected of a domestic dispute. Chauvin shot the man twice, though the man survived.

In 2011, Chauvin was placed on a three-day leave, along with four other officers, for his involvement in the non-fatal shooting of an indigenous man, The Daily Beast reports. The officers were allowed back to work after it was determined they responded “appropriately.” Five more complaints made against Chauvin prior to 2012 have also been closed and resulted in no disciplinary action.

Amazing that Chauvin was not sorry and wished he could 'do over' the previous18 complaints and disciplinary action against him ..Why ?.. because he got away with them.. this time he didn't, and now he wishes he could go back and redo that day.. yep like all criminals they're only sorry when they're caught...
 

Della said:
Chauvin was not acting as any of those people. He was acting as a cop trying to subdue an unruly suspect so he could take him to court. The Cup Foods manager called the police for help. Just as the police don't get to be judge and jury, neither do they get to decide which calls to take, and they don't get to decide to simply let some suspects go because the crime they're accused of isn't that serious.

Chauvin will probably die in prison, so essentially he got life in prison for accidentally killing a suspect while trying to subdue him. He shouldn't have used the knee hold and he should have let up when Floyd stopped moving and talking, so I think he should have been convicted of manslaughter and I think he should have been sentenced to prison for that, but 22 years is too much.

She said, "Derek, you're my favorite son." His mother was making a little running joke that lots of mothers make when they only have one son. The joke didn't come off, but she seemed like a very nervous, shy woman. She was heartbroken to see her son going to prison.

I see the blood thirsty, angry mob outside the courthouse isn't satisfied. Someone here said that Christians teach "an eye for an eye." No, that's Old Testament law. Christ asked us to forgive and have mercy, even for murderers.
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Does the "Old Testament" teach that, too?

Allowing for people to go around purposely killing others while at the same using the Old Testament to wash their hands clean of any wrong doing?

Is that what the Old Testament holds and extends to followers, a chance to hold a rope in one hand while holding the Old Testament in the other, with the promise of expunging ones soul of any wrong doing while replacing purposely with "accidentally"?
 
Irwin said:
Passing a counterfeit $20 is not so egregious an offense that it justifies the cop acting as judge, jury, and executioner. If we allowed that, we'd be living in a police state, which few of us want. That's not what our country is about.
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Well said and true. Plus, the way I see it, Mr. Floyd was innocent until proven guilty for allegedly passing a fake twenty. Even if he were found guilty, hardly a death sentence offense to be sure. You're right, myself and many other Americans do not want to live in a police state, that is not America.
 
I find is very odd Chauvin cut his hair so short for sentencing making look more like a skinhead. Now the media photos are mostly him with eyes wide open making his image troubling unlike before today. What he did was wrong but his years of service makes him more of a hero than 99% of the civilian population. If anyone cares to argue that then kindly respond to the number of people that must wear body armor and weapons to subdue murderers, rapists and the like in their chosen lines of work. I will never address Floyd as "Mr." As for those that posted hatred toward Chauvin's mother you are not satisfied with spewing hatred for one person so you attack his mother. You should be real proud of what you are.
 
Della said:
Chauvin was not acting as any of those people. He was acting as a cop trying to subdue an unruly suspect so he could take him to court. The Cup Foods manager called the police for help. Just as the police don't get to be judge and jury, neither do they get to decide which calls to take, and they don't get to decide to simply let some suspects go because the crime they're accused of isn't that serious.

Chauvin will probably die in prison, so essentially he got life in prison for accidentally killing a suspect while trying to subdue him. He shouldn't have used the knee hold and he should have let up when Floyd stopped moving and talking, so I think he should have been convicted of manslaughter and I think he should have been sentenced to prison for that, but 22 years is too much.

She said, "Derek, you're my favorite son." His mother was making a little running joke that lots of mothers make when they only have one son. The joke didn't come off, but she seemed like a very nervous, shy woman. She was heartbroken to see her son going to prison.

I see the blood thirsty, angry mob outside the courthouse isn't satisfied. Someone here said that Christians teach "an eye for an eye." No, that's Old Testament law. Christ asked us to forgive and have mercy, even for murderers.
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Subduing an unruly suspect. Seriously!! The man was already on the ground and handcuffed. So a full 9 minutes on his neck was necessary in your opinion?!! People who stood in silence for 9 minutes to honor his memory commented on just how long that felt...how long it is. And if I had a counterfit $20 in my possession, I'd probably pass it because I wouldn't be thinking I am passing a counterfit bill. I am, however, suspicious of 100 bills. I don't like getting them and avoid it whenever possible. Bottom line is even if he knew, passing a counterfit bill is nothing to be killed for. Cops don't get to be judge, jury and executioner. I must bring up once again...that White serial killers who are armed and dangerous get to live when captured by police. Hell they may even get treated to Burger King. SMDH!! In case you don't know what that means it's Shake my damned head!
 
fmdog44 said:
Are you sure officers convicted of felony murder still receive a pension?
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CNN reported that there is no Minnesota state law that allows for the forfeiture of pensions for employees convicted of felony crimes during their work. This means that even if a Minnesota officer is convicted of murder, it doesn’t strip them of their pension benefits.

Derek Chauvin’s $1 Million Pension: How Is the Minneapolis Officer Still Eligible? | Heavy.com


erek Chauvin is the former Minneapolis police officer charged with second-degree murder for the death of George Floyd. Even if Chauvin is found guilty of Floyd’s murder, he will still be eligible to receive more than $1 million in pension benefits as a retired officer, according to CNN.

CNN reported that there is no Minnesota state law that allows for the forfeiture of pensions for employees convicted of felony crimes during their work. This means that even if a Minnesota officer is convicted of murder, it doesn’t strip them of their pension benefits.

Chauvin is the white police officer who kneeled on Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes while the black man said he couldn’t breathe. Three other officers who were present on the scene and didn’t intervene have also been charged. Their names are Tou Thao, Thomas Lane, and J. Alexander Keung. They were charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder and with aiding and abetting second-degree murder manslaughter with culpable negligence. Both charges are categorized as “unintentional” felonies.

All four officers have been fired, but Chauvin and Thao are both eligible for their pension benefits, CNN reported.

Here’s what you need to know:

Chauvin, 44, Will Be Eligible for His Pension When He Turns 50, Regardless of the Outcome of His Trial​



Derek Chauvin

Minnesota Department of CorrectionsDerek Chauvin is being held at Minnesota’s Oak Park Heights Minnesota Correctional Facility — a maximum security state prison.


Chauvin is currently 44 years old. When he is 50 years old, he will be eligible to start receiving his pension, regardless of the outcome of his trial, according to CNN.

A spokesperson for the Minnesota Public Employees Retirement Association gave the following statement regarding Chauvin’s pension: “Neither our Board nor our staff have the discretion to increase, decrease, deny or revoke benefits. Any changes to current law would need to be done through the legislative process.”

Chauvin will likely receive an approximate annual pension of $50,000 if he chooses to start receiving it at 55 years old. This estimate is based on his 2019 payroll data, contract details, pension plan guidance and Minneapolis Police Department salary schedules, CNN says. It doesn’t account for any overtime he has logged over the years.

Chauvin’s pension could add up to $1.5 million over 30 years, not including overtime payments and not including cost-of-living increases, according to CNN.

Thao Is Also Eligible for Pension, CNN Reports; Lane & Keung, Both Rookies, Are Not​



According to CNN, Thao is also eligible for pension benefits, based on employment records in Minneapolis. Lane and Keung are both rookies and therefore not yet eligible for pension.
 
oldiebutgoody said:
CNN reported that there is no Minnesota state law that allows for the forfeiture of pensions for employees convicted of felony crimes during their work. This means that even if a Minnesota officer is convicted of murder, it doesn’t strip them of their pension benefits.

Derek Chauvin’s $1 Million Pension: How Is the Minneapolis Officer Still Eligible? | Heavy.com


erek Chauvin is the former Minneapolis police officer charged with second-degree murder for the death of George Floyd. Even if Chauvin is found guilty of Floyd’s murder, he will still be eligible to receive more than $1 million in pension benefits as a retired officer, according to CNN.

CNN reported that there is no Minnesota state law that allows for the forfeiture of pensions for employees convicted of felony crimes during their work. This means that even if a Minnesota officer is convicted of murder, it doesn’t strip them of their pension benefits.

Chauvin is the white police officer who kneeled on Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes while the black man said he couldn’t breathe. Three other officers who were present on the scene and didn’t intervene have also been charged. Their names are Tou Thao, Thomas Lane, and J. Alexander Keung. They were charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder and with aiding and abetting second-degree murder manslaughter with culpable negligence. Both charges are categorized as “unintentional” felonies.

All four officers have been fired, but Chauvin and Thao are both eligible for their pension benefits, CNN reported.

Here’s what you need to know:

Chauvin, 44, Will Be Eligible for His Pension When He Turns 50, Regardless of the Outcome of His Trial​



Derek Chauvin

Minnesota Department of CorrectionsDerek Chauvin is being held at Minnesota’s Oak Park Heights Minnesota Correctional Facility — a maximum security state prison.


Chauvin is currently 44 years old. When he is 50 years old, he will be eligible to start receiving his pension, regardless of the outcome of his trial, according to CNN.

A spokesperson for the Minnesota Public Employees Retirement Association gave the following statement regarding Chauvin’s pension: “Neither our Board nor our staff have the discretion to increase, decrease, deny or revoke benefits. Any changes to current law would need to be done through the legislative process.”

Chauvin will likely receive an approximate annual pension of $50,000 if he chooses to start receiving it at 55 years old. This estimate is based on his 2019 payroll data, contract details, pension plan guidance and Minneapolis Police Department salary schedules, CNN says. It doesn’t account for any overtime he has logged over the years.

Chauvin’s pension could add up to $1.5 million over 30 years, not including overtime payments and not including cost-of-living increases, according to CNN.

Thao Is Also Eligible for Pension, CNN Reports; Lane & Keung, Both Rookies, Are Not​



According to CNN, Thao is also eligible for pension benefits, based on employment records in Minneapolis. Lane and Keung are both rookies and therefore not yet eligible for pension.
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Enough to chap ones behind and good, isn't it, Oldebutgoody.
 
SeaBreeze said:
My comment was made on just what I saw and heard today, that was enough to know. She had no remorse for the deceased, the man her son deliberately killed. She only felt sorry for him and herself, the hell with the murdered Floyd and his grieving family.
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She said her son was an "quiet, thoughtful, honorable and selfless" as well as "good man" who is "loving and caring". Not one word for the innocent victim Floyd or his family. Now we know the source of Chauvin's criminal stupidity.
 
Della said:
Butterfly said if he had been black he wouldn't have died. Implying that police never kill white people.
I pointed out that police killed 457 white people last year, demonstrating that they do kill white people. What do percentages have to do with that?
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I never said that cops never kill white people. In this particular situation, however, I believe that if it had been a white man who handed that bill to the cashier -- it has not been proven, BTW, that Mr. Floyd knew the bill was counterfeit -- the cops would probably never been called, the bill would have been handed back too Mr. Floyd, and Mr. Floyd would probably be alive today.

White, black, or green, there is no justification whatsoever in any conceivable scenario, for the way Mr. Floyd was treated and his death at those cops' hands over the alleged attempt to pass a counterfeit $20 bill. An attempt to pass a counterfeit bill isn't a capital offense, by any stretch, and nor is resisting arrest or drug use, even if Mr. Floyd did any of those things.

And so said the jury.
 


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