Will The Taliban Take Kabul on 9-11?

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oldiebutgoody said:
Well, I'm still waiting for reports that people are protesting the reemergence of that Taliban. Aside from collaborators trying to escape rather than face trial for treason or to accept amnesty, have you seen any protests?

In all honesty, I can't blame the collaborators for trying to escape. After all, that's what Benedict Arnold did. Treason does have its consequences.
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Maybe this will help.

 

Murrmurr said:
Maybe this will help.

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Interesting video. On the one hand he (a citizen of India) says Pakistan created and abetted the Taliban but on the other hand he says the Taliban will invade Pakistan, kill thousands, and annex Balochistan and Khyber. He does not say why the Taliban would attempt to kill its own allies. He mentions old grievances but does not offer any hope of reconciliation. Dunno if what he says is true. But one thing's for sure. Those problems are their concern, not ours. We have already given those people $2 trillion. Pouring more money into their problems won't solve anything.
 
When will the media get around to digging into what will happen to the refugees?

Maybe unlike when America defeated Japan since we were defeated in Afghanistan America won't have to foot the bill for the cost to rebuild.
 
Don M. said:
I firmly believe that the U.S. should keep its nose out of the strife that other nations face. Teddy Roosevelt had it right, IMO....Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick. If we, or our close allies are attacked, we should respond quickly and with maximum force to show the "attackers" that they made a Bad decision. In this case, the objective should have been to "eliminate" Bin Laden, then let Afghanistan figure out how to handle the Taliban on their own....IMO. If their people think that such "extremism" is acceptable, there is little we can do to change their minds.
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Sometimes decisions have to be made as to where you
Sunny said:
I have never understood why we are there at all, let alone 20 years after 9/11, which from my (very limited) knowledge the Taliban was not responsible for anyway. Why have we hung on there so long, and what did we expect to accomplish?
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The U.S. should have left as soon as they learned Bin Laden had fled to Pakistan.
 
oldiebutgoody said:
I believe women were finally allowed to drive an automobile just about a year ago in Saudi Arabia. Things are not much better in other Muslim countries. Bad as those conditions are, they are infinitely worse in Brahmin India:

https://tinyurl.com/pzcwapw8


Whatever "evils" the Taliban have imposed pale in comparison to this. MILLIONS upon millions butchered in a campaign that surpasses Hitler's genocide and not one word of protest from the West.
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Female infanticide
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Germany has halted development aid to Afghanistan since the Taliban takeover. Such aid is a crucial source of funding for the country — and the Taliban's efforts to project a milder version of themselves may be aimed at ensuring that money continues to flow. Berlin was among the biggest donors to the country.
 
My opinion, no my opinion has no value; the only people that have an opinion that we should heed are those that served there,
those that bled there, and those that died there.
 
mellowyellow said:
Germany has halted development aid to Afghanistan since the Taliban takeover. Such aid is a crucial source of funding for the country — and the Taliban's efforts to project a milder version of themselves may be aimed at ensuring that money continues to flow. Berlin was among the biggest donors to the country.
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The U.S. Treasury Department froze Afghan government reserves held in U.S. bank accounts Sunday, after the Taliban seized the capital city of Kabul this weekend.

The move blocks the Taliban from accessing the billions of dollars that were being stored in U.S. institutions.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...istan-money-taliban-us-reserves-b1903511.html
 
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Evacuees crowd the interior of a U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III transport aircraft, carrying some 640 Afghans to Qatar from Kabul on Aug. 15, 2021.
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jerry old said:
My opinion, no my opinion has no value; the only people that have an opinion that we should heed are those that served there,
those that bled there, and those that died there.
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I understand your feelings on this, and I agree we need to listen to our vets. Their experiences and insights are important. However our system is built on separation of the military and the civilian government and decision making. I think we need to keep it that way. So opine away, I think it does matter.

Nothing meant to detract from the contributions of our military people, particularly the ones who "bled..., and... died".
 
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Pink Biz said:
The U.S. Treasury Department froze Afghan government reserves held in U.S. bank accounts Sunday, after the Taliban seized the capital city of Kabul this weekend.

The move blocks the Taliban from accessing the billions of dollars that were being stored in U.S. institutions.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...istan-money-taliban-us-reserves-b1903511.html
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interestingly, former Afghan President Ashraf Ghani reportedly fled the country with car loads of money

Afghan President Ghani flees Kabul in helicopter stuffed with cash: reports - The Hindu


So who gets to keep the money - Washington DC???
 
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Taliban’s justice system
Bibi Aisha Mohammadzai had her ears and nosed chopped off by the Taliban
At 12, she was forced into an abusive marriage with a Taliban fighter. She tried to flee but was captured. A Taliban judge punished her by sending her to jail for months and then releasing her back to her husband. The husband and his relatives tied her up and cut off her nose and ears, leaving her to die. She was flown to the US and after recovering from psychological after effects of her trauma, she underwent a 12-stage reconstructive procedure and was adopted by an Afghan-American family.

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mellowyellow said:
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Taliban’s justice system
Bibi Aisha Mohammadzai had her ears and nosed chopped off by the Taliban
At 12, she was forced into an abusive marriage with a Taliban fighter. She tried to flee but was captured. A Taliban judge punished her by sending her to jail for months and then releasing her back to her husband. The husband and his relatives tied her up and cut off her nose and ears, leaving her to die. She was flown to the US and after recovering from psychological after effects of her trauma, she underwent a 12-stage reconstructive procedure and was adopted by an Afghan-American family.

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Oh my Lord that poor, poor girl. She looks beautiful now though. Thank goodness for the family that took her in.
 
jerry old said:
You see folks like the above in a VA Hospital, not a civilian.
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Generally true. But do recall that the American troops left many civilians at Abu Ghraib in worse shape. The disclosure of those atrocities by Bush's "crusaders" became an international sensation of the worse order. I pondered about posting a few pics but thought it might be a better idea not to do so. Also recall the Nisour Square Massacre which turned thousands of Iraqis against the continued occupation by Bush's forces.
 
fmdog44 said:
Twelve cities in one week the Taliban has overrun and would it not be the ultimate insult to wait until 9-11 to take Kabul twenty years later?
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What does Kabul and the Taliban have to do with 9-11?
 

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