Anti-vaxxers aren't just anti-vax; they're trying to prevent others from getting vaccinated

Irwin

Irwin

Well-known Member
Location
Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.
Demonstrators at a children's COVID-19 vaccine clinic in North Bay reportedly called parents 'murderers'
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/north-bay-childrens-vaccine-clinic-harassment-1.6266942

Anti-vaxxers forced a mobile COVID-19 vaccine site in Georgia to shut down after threatening health workers
https://www.businessinsider.com/ant...-down-vaccine-site-by-bullying-workers-2021-8

Massachusetts families claim anti-vaccine protesters harassed children outside middle school clinic
https://www.wcvb.com/article/gardner-massachusetts-anti-vaccine-protesters-harassment/38465847
Mass psychosis is getting worse! yikes.jpg The same thing is happening in Europe!
 

Darwin is going to take care of some of them. The thing I resent is that these idiots are taking up valuable hospital resources when they come down with Covid.
To show how stupid some of these people are, there was an unvax couple that went to the hospital with Covid and refused treatment for it. They both died. Darwin??
 
Last edited:
These are the actions of social disrupters. It is antisocial and as such I have no support to offer them.

No-one is being held down and forcibly injected. We are being urged to vaccinate for excellent reasons but all of us can choose not to comply. However, every choice we make has its own consequences and we, as adults, must all consider them carefully. To make a choice, knowing all that it entails, and then throw a public tantrum because we don't like the consequences, is infantile behaviour. IMO, of course.
 

bowmore said:
Darwin is going to take care of some of them. The thing I resent is that these idiots are taking up valuable hospital resources when they come down with Covid.
Click to expand...
They're like suicide bombers, willing to die for their cause and take down as many non-believers as they can. What gets me is these anti-vaxxers who play the victim, as if asking them to get vaccinated is oppression and abuse comparable to being in a Nazi death camp.
 
Irwin said:
Demonstrators at a children's COVID-19 vaccine clinic in North Bay reportedly called parents 'murderers'
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/north-bay-childrens-vaccine-clinic-harassment-1.6266942

Anti-vaxxers forced a mobile COVID-19 vaccine site in Georgia to shut down after threatening health workers
https://www.businessinsider.com/ant...-down-vaccine-site-by-bullying-workers-2021-8

Massachusetts families claim anti-vaccine protesters harassed children outside middle school clinic
https://www.wcvb.com/article/gardner-massachusetts-anti-vaccine-protesters-harassment/38465847
Mass psychosis is getting worse! View attachment 198271 The same thing is happening in Europe!
Click to expand...
Disgraceful.
 
I hope this won't be considered offensive. It was found on a satirical site called the Shovel. I have removed the obscene words but I think the arguments are logically sound. It is written in response to people who compare requirements for vaccination with Nazi Germany. It is also written for an Australian readership. I won't be offended if it is torn to shreds on this forum.

‘6 Ways Vaccination Requirements Are Different From The Holocaust’: A Handy Guide For Anti-Vaxxers

Some anti-vaxxers have been comparing the vaccination requirements in Australia, Canada and elsewhere to the Holocaust, claiming they are being persecuted, just as Jewish people were during WWII. One woman even dressed up her children wearing yellow Star of David patches.

We took their advice and ‘did our own research’ and found some surprising differences between the two events. We’ve summarised our findings in this handy guide for anti-vaxxers.

1. People in the Holocaust were innocent victims, you’re just a selfish idiot. It’s a subtle difference, but one that becomes clearer the more you look into this issue. On the one hand we have ordinary people targeted because of their religion or race, on the other, self-obsessed people claiming they are oppressed because they can’t sit down for a coffee at their local cafĂ©.

2. In the Holocaust, Jewish people were murdered. In this pandemic, anti-vaxxers won’t be able to go to Kmart. You may think the two things are comparable, but the difference is actually monumentally huge. A small, self-imposed inconvenience for you, versus a literal death-sentence for millions of people.

3. Holocaust victims had no say in their fate. You can choose to do whatever you want. As far as we could tell from our research, there wasn’t an opt-out form for the Holocaust. No-one responded to a knock on the door from Nazi soldiers by saying ‘I think I’ll sit this one out because Pete Evans says I shouldn’t trust the science’. But, as you keep telling us over and over and over again, you can do whatever you want.

4. The Holocaust killed people, vaccinations save people. At first glance, it might be hard to spot the difference here. But on closer inspection, you’ll notice that the two things are actually the EXACT OPPOSITE. They literally couldn’t be more different.

5. Holocaust victims were forced into concentration camps. You’re being asked to voluntarily go to a pop-up clinic in a converted town hall. A non-negotiable journey to a death camp under armed guard, versus a short trip to your local community centre where you’ll get a free lollipop. We checked, and you may be surprised to learn that these things are not remotely similar.

6. Jews in Nazi occupied Europe were forced to wear yellow stars; you’re playing dress-ups. Cosplaying a prisoner of war might seem like a fun way to get more Instagram likes, but it’s actually grotesque.
Click to expand...
 
I think maybe getting the vaccine is a personal choice.

I chose vaccination, but a couple of my friends chose not to because of their health issues and they're apparently - let me repeat - apparently - safer without it. So they stay home mostly and when they do go out, they wear masks and stay away from people and get tested weekly.

Yet on the other paw, where I live, we have seen a number of vaccinated people come down with Covid and pass away from it.

This bug is so insipid, so unpredictable and so dangerous that it's really quite disturbing. I wear a good mask, practice social distancing, and try to stay as healthy as possible. I'd hate for someone to even catch a cold from me, you know? Someone could get a cold from me, and if they have underlying health issues, if they get accidentally exposed to Covid while fighting off a cold or flu, it could be very bad.

But getting in peoples' faces and becoming militant about it either way is uncalled for.

I was recently promoted to supervisor at work, and I have told my team even if you have a slight cold - stay home!

Just my opinion.

I hope all of us stay well.
 
I don't mind hearing logical arguments from either side, but the constant barrage of nonsense tends to become tedious and annoying.

My personal opinion is that life is a team sport and every now and then we each need to take one for the team.

getty_537417802_348333.jpg


Get vaccinated/boosted.
 
Pookie said:
I think maybe getting the vaccine is a personal choice.

I chose vaccination, but a couple of my friends chose not to because of their health issues and they're apparently - let me repeat - apparently - safer without it. So they stay home mostly and when they do go out, they wear masks and stay away from people and get tested weekly.

Yet on the other paw, where I live, we have seen a number of vaccinated people come down with Covid and pass away from it.

This bug is so insipid, so unpredictable and so dangerous that it's really quite disturbing. I wear a good mask, practice social distancing, and try to stay as healthy as possible. I'd hate for someone to even catch a cold from me, you know? Someone could get a cold from me, and if they have underlying health issues, if they get accidentally exposed to Covid while fighting off a cold or flu, it could be very bad.

But getting in peoples' faces and becoming militant about it either way is uncalled for.

I was recently promoted to supervisor at work, and I have told my team even if you have a slight cold - stay home!

Just my opinion.

I hope all of us stay well.
Click to expand...
^^^^ Bingo. But your logic is very unpopular with the sheep mentality crowd who want their decision validated by others who make the same decision they made. ;)
 
I know some true anti-vaxxers --no vaccines at all-- through the years in connection with my nephew's vaccine injury. Most of the people I know who fit the "anti-vaxx" label because of a vaccine injured child wouldn't demonstrate outside children's clinics where there is parental choice. Most advocate vaccine 'choice' and understand how hard it is to weigh the dangers of disease vs permanent damage."

A thread title lead of "Some" might clarify that these demonstrators are extremists.


.
 
Last edited:
What I resent the most is that when the non vacc people become critically ill with the virus they are needlessly, selfishly taking hospital beds away from EVERYBODY, vaxxed or not , who have other critical illnesses or physical injuries that need acute care.
 
Geezerette said:
What I resent the most is that when the non vacc people become critically ill with the virus they are needlessly, selfishly taking hospital beds away from EVERYBODY, vaxxed or not , who have other critical illnesses or physical injuries that need acute care.
Click to expand...
It's not just the unvaccinated.

This is just one state reporting, there's more.

"There have been 2,716 hospitalizations among fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts"

"The 2,716 total patients is a one-week increase of 273 fully vaxxed patients."

https://www-bostonherald-com.cdn.am...last-week-smashing-record-high-for-the-state/
 
University of Florida researchers were ordered to destroy covid-19 data that didn't comport with the propaganda coming from the governor's office.

The report discusses several “challenges” faced by UF researchers who were working on COVID-19 with an unidentified state entity. It describes “external pressure to destroy” data as well as “barriers” to accessing, analyzing and publishing the numbers. Taken together, the report said, those problems “inhibited the ability of faculty to contribute scientific findings during a world-wide pandemic.”
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article256400321.html
 
Geezerette said:
What I resent the most is that when the non vacc people become critically ill with the virus they are needlessly, selfishly taking hospital beds away from EVERYBODY, vaxxed or not , who have other critical illnesses or physical injuries that need acute care.
Click to expand...
^^^^ An attempt to guilt people into getting vaccinated. Same ploy previously used to guilt people into getting flu shots:
"If you don't get a flu shot, you're making others sick."
It works - for gullible non thinkers.
 
My wife and I got our Moderna booster shots this morning. We hardly felt the "jab", and now, a few hours later, we are Not having any sore arms, etc. The nurse administering the shots was very good. Now, within a few days, we should be back up into the 95+ percentile of safety from this virus...just in time for getting together with the family for Christmas.
 
AnnieA said:
I know some true anti-vaxxers --no vaccines at all-- through the years in connection with my nephew's vaccine injury. Most of the people I know who fit the "anti-vaxx" label because of a vaccine injured child wouldn't demonstrate outside children's clinics where there is parental choice. Most advocate vaccine 'choice' and understand how hard it is to weigh the dangers of disease vs permanent damage."

A thread title lead of "Some" might clarify that these demonstrators are extremists.


.
Click to expand...
Exactly. But that would spoil it for the "I'm better than you" crowd.
And it would deprive them of the only way they know to feel superior.
 
Becky1951 said:
It's not just the unvaccinated.

This is just one state reporting, there's more.

"There have been 2,716 hospitalizations among fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts"

"The 2,716 total patients is a one-week increase of 273 fully vaxxed patients."

https://www-bostonherald-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bostonherald.com/2021/12/07/massachusetts-coronavirus-breakthrough-cases-surge-11321-last-week-smashing-record-high-for-the-state/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#aoh=16391553327256&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/12/07/massachusetts-coronavirus-breakthrough-cases-surge-11321-last-week-smashing-record-high-for-the-state/
Click to expand...

The article you quote goes on to say that 1.8% of the cases in Massachusetts are among those who have been vaccinated. That indicates that 98.2% of those who Have been vaccinated are not having any problems. 98.2% are pretty good odds, in my book. It's doubtful that we will ever see 100% protection...on this, or Any disease.
 
Don M. said:
The article you quote goes on to say that 1.8% of the cases in Massachusetts are among those who have been vaccinated. That indicates that 98.2% of those who Have been vaccinated are not having any problems. 98.2% are pretty good odds, in my book. It's doubtful that we will ever see 100% protection...on this, or Any disease.
Click to expand...
Yes but why do people ignore the fact that the vaccinated also are being hospitalized and its not *all* the unvaccinated filling up hospitals causing other health conditions to have to wait?

Vaccinated or not, Covid is the cause.
 

You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top