What can the world do to punish Russia?

Maybe we’ve been looking at this Russia, Ukraine thing in the wrong light. Maybe, instead of punishment, we need a can do kind of guy who maybe got off on the wrong foot. Consider, Kevin, if you will! ABC, USA, ABC, USA! I think that it’s rather catchy really! What say you?

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West agrees to cut Russian banks from Swift payments system: UK, EU, the US and allies take financial nuclear option as they tighten sanctions against Moscow to 'further isolate Russia' and 'cripple Putin's war machine'​


Russia was tonight cut out of a crucial global banking system as efforts to hit its economy if it invaded Ukraine intensified.

In a co-ordinated move Britain, the US, Canada and the European Union announced selected Russian banks would be excluded from the Swift global payments system.

At the same time they said the would be imposing 'restrictive measures' to prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves 'in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions'.

After talking by telephone to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Mr Johnson said the West had to do everything possible to change the 'very heavy odds' against Ukraine in its struggle against Moscow's forces.

He confirmed Britain would be sending further arms to the Ukrainians and he said that the financial measures were essential to put pressure on the Kremlin.

'It is incredibly important for tightening the economic ligature around the Putin regime,' he said during a visit to RAF Brize Norton.

Earlier German Chancellor Olaf Scholz announced he was dropping his country's opposition to the move removing a major obstacle to international agreement.

'The horror of what is unfolding in Ukraine is becoming clear to Western audiences and that in turn is putting huge pressure on Western politicians,' Mr Johnson said.

Britain had been pressing for action on Swift - described by one minister as the 'ultimate economic sanction' - for some time.

Germany and Italy - which both rely heavily on Russia oil and gas imports - were among the countries said to be reluctant.

The move came on the day the expected Russian assault on the the Ukrainian capital Kyiv failed to materialise.

A statement issued by the White House said: 'We, the leaders of the European Commission, France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, Canada, and the United States condemn Putin's war of choice and attacks on the sovereign nation and people of Ukraine.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eyen-commits-cutting-Russian-banks-Swift.html
 
Chris P Bacon said:
Good morning, Luv! It would appear that you slept well.
Did your cornflakes taste a bit salty and soggy today?
Thanks for your insight! I don’t know what I’d do without it!

Hey now, would you look at that! One of your comments got
a like! Oh, wait a moment, doesn’t count. That was me! 😬
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Chris P Bacon said:
I’m sorry but after thinking it over, I’ve decided not to
change my screen name to ‘Life’. You can change your
signature, if you want but I’m just not ready to be so open.
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There are several on here who doubt her French heritage, but after seeing how rude, confrontational and self-centered @Shero is I have no doubt at all. :ROFLMAO:
 

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dseag2 said:
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There are several on here who doubt her French heritage, but after seeing how rude, confrontational and self-centered @Shero is I have no doubt at all. :ROFLMAO:
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She says she was born in Hawaii, went and lived in France, she's a transient in Australia, is it possible she's banned worldwide?
Britain used to send their riff raff to Australia but that was a long time ago. Still ...

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dseag2 said:
There are several on here who doubt her French heritage, but after seeing how rude, confrontational and self-centered @Shero is I have no doubt at all. :ROFLMAO:
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Rude? Confrontational? ..that translates to being a strong woman with equally strong opinions of which I am proud!

Self centred… huh? My oh my have we not got a short memory! When you were being slammed in one of the religious threads for : (a) your gayness – who came out and defended you? I did, no one else. (b) when someone likened gay people to an “abomination according to the bible” – who came out again and defended you? Me again! But watch out: Karma bides it’s time. It has a surprising way of taking care of situations. All I have to do is to sit back and watch.
 
oldiebutgoody said:
Should Bush be excused for his imperialism? Over a twenty year period the USA attacked two innocent nations, killed a million people, and destroyed their infrastructures. Millions of people are still hospitalized because of bombings, bullets, attacks, etc. Nobody has sent Bush a bill for his terrorism or even had the guts to petition the UN or world courts for redress of grievances.

Putin engages in these actions and suddenly everyone is enraged and decides that counter actions must be undertaken.

Why the interest in stopping Russia when the entire world looked the other way for these past 20 years?

Madrid invades Catalonia and nobody blinks. Border clashes have gone on for 40 years between Ethiopia's Afar region and Somalia. Hundreds were killed last year: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...egion-says-hundreds-massacred-by-afar-militia

The ongoing border conflict between Ethiopia and Sudan is even worse with over 300,000 dead:

https://apnews.com/article/middle-e...hir-ethiopia-11acd51f300de03dfb81b76612ff97ba

Saudi Arabia has led a coalition against Yemen with reports of as many as 300,000+ dead:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...y-possible-in-one-generation-if-war-stops-now


There continue to be conflicts between Western Sahara and Morocco, as well as the continuing conflict between Israel and Palestine. Again, somebody explain the selectivity here. Why must the USA suddenly play the role of moral guardian when it has looked the other in so many of these conflicts listed above and where it has attacked and killed more people than any other country on earth?

Meantime problems continue at home with cops killing innocent people virtually every day. Are we to continue to look the other way as these problems go unabated while we waste more of our tax dollars on business that is no concern of
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oldiebutgoody said:
For those of you who want to punish Russia, what are you going to do to the USA for starting two needless wars, killing one million people, and destroying the infrastructure of two innocent nations?
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In the event you cannot recall, the US was attacked first, and secondly Afghanistan asked us to put down the Taliban, which we did.
 
Chris P Bacon said:
She says she was born in Hawaii, went and lived in France, she's a transient in Australia, is it possible she's banned worldwide?
Britain used to send their riff raff to Australia but that was a long time ago. Still ...

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Oi! A bit less of that riff raff talk.
Apparently some of my antecedents were on the first and second fleets, and they weren't sailors or soldiers either.

Riff raff, indeed! :rolleyes:
 
Warrigal said:
It was that one word at the end.... "Still!"
Native English speakers like me know exactly how to react to such fightin' words.
Hold my beer.
;)
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I can explain, to you, what I mean but I can’t understand it for you. You’ve misquoted me, it seems. It’s never been brought to my attention. In this life, or in any others that I may have lived in, that the word “still” was an invitation to do harm to anyone. And I’ve spoken English for several years now myself. You quoted and based your response on something I didn’t say, it seems. You read what I wrote as, “Still!”, which I admit, on the surface and with the exclamation mark after it, that does seem a tad hostile. To me anyways. Still and I don’t mean that in a hostile sense, what I wrote was, “Still …”, meaning I was considering what I’d written.

Now if you need someone to hold your beer, whilst you imaginarily thrash me about, then maybe you have other problems that have nothing to do with what you read or what you comprehend when you do read. I didn’t mention you in any way that I knew I was doing so and I am frankly offended that you would perceive it as such. My words about riff raff were spoken from ye knowledge that was imparted to me, long ago, about Australia getting a start with settlers from Britain being sent there to establish it as a penal colony. If that’s not so then forgive my ignorance but as I say, it was imparted by what I thought to be reputable sources. I’m pretty sure too though, that not all aboard those first few ships of convicts to arrive at Australian shores were riff raff. The ship’s crew and the guards for the convicts were probably fine and upstanding people, even if they likely were outnumbered.

It’s late there now in Australia, I see, by my clock. Maybe you can just finish your beer and let the nightstand hold your empty can, bottle or glass and sleep off your anger towards my words that you seemingly can’t understand. Have a nice rest and sweet dreams, mate! G’day, peace!
 
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Thousands gathered in front of Berlin's Brandenburg Gate on this morning for an anti-war rally amid international rage at the invasion of Ukraine even as Russia's troops pressed towards the capital, Kyiv

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MADRID: Demonstrators hold signs reading 'Peace' and wave Ukrainian flags as they gather during a protest against Russia's invasion of Ukraine

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Athens Greece

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South Korea... ( clever picture of Putin/Hitler )
 
  • A growing number of countries have announced Sunday they’re joining a string of nations in closing their airspace to Russian aircrafts after Moscow began its invasion of Ukraine.
  • Officials for Canada, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, France, Spain, the Netherlands, Italy, Austria and Iceland all announced the measures on Sunday that would further isolate Russia.
  • The moves by the nations put even more pressure on Russia, with countries banding together to impose wide-reaching sanctions on Russia and its elite.
  • https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/27/can...closing-their-airspace-to-russian-planes.html
 
In Kyiv, Ukraine is a monument commemorating the country’s 1991 independence. The figure at the top is the Slavic Goddess Berehynia, who represents the 'protectoress of the home'.

She holds a viburnum branch, the national symbol for women, motherhood, the soul of the nation, and love.

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Chris P Bacon said:
I can explain, to you, what I mean but I can’t understand it for you. You’ve misquoted me, it seems. It’s never been brought to my attention. In this life, or in any others that I may have lived in, that the word “still” was an invitation to do harm to anyone. And I’ve spoken English for several years now myself. You quoted and based your response on something I didn’t say, it seems. You read what I wrote as, “Still!”, which I admit, on the surface and with the exclamation mark after it, that does seem a tad hostile. To me anyways. Still and I don’t mean that in a hostile sense, what I wrote was, “Still …”, meaning I was considering what I’d written.

Now if you need someone to hold your beer, whilst you imaginarily thrash me about, then maybe you have other problems that have nothing to do with what you read or what you comprehend when you do read. I didn’t mention you in any way that I knew I was doing so and I am frankly offended that you would perceive it as such. My words about riff raff were spoken from ye knowledge that was imparted to me, long ago, about Australia getting a start with settlers from Britain being sent there to establish it as a penal colony. If that’s not so then forgive my ignorance but as I say, it was imparted by what I thought to be reputable sources. I’m pretty sure too though, that not all aboard those first few ships of convicts to arrive at Australian shores were riff raff. The ship’s crew and the guards for the convicts were probably fine and upstanding people, even if they likely were outnumbered.

It’s late there now in Australia, I see, by my clock. Maybe you can just finish your beer and let the nightstand hold your empty can, bottle or glass and sleep off your anger towards my words that you seemingly can’t understand. Have a nice rest and sweet dreams, mate! G’day, peace!
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I'm pulling your leg, Mate. Don't take everything so seriously. :giggle:
 
Warrigal said:
I'm pulling your leg, Mate. Don't take everything so seriously. :giggle:
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Okay then, I apologize for my overreaction. But I’ve had a few people who seemed to want to have me drawn and quartered. I don’t try to offend others but I do realize that sometimes, with issues important to our hearts, any of us can become short sighted. 🙇🏼‍♂️🙏 Namaste and thank you for getting my blood flowing this morning. Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! 🇦🇺🌏🦘
 
Shero said:
Rude? Confrontational? ..that translates to being a strong woman with equally strong opinions of which I am proud!

Self centred… huh? My oh my have we not got a short memory! When you were being slammed in one of the religious threads for : (a) your gayness – who came out and defended you? I did, no one else. (b) when someone likened gay people to an “abomination according to the bible” – who came out again and defended you? Me again! But watch out: Karma bides it’s time. It has a surprising way of taking care of situations. All I have to do is to sit back and watch.
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Thank you for defending my "gayness" but the fact that you call it "gayness" says so much. You make it sound like I am a pariah in this forum and you are the only one who has come to my defense. There are many who support me in this forum, so as much as I appreciate your support I don't need it.

Enjoy this explanation of what Karma really is, and don't hold your breath waiting for something bad to happen to me. Fast forward to 3:02. ;)

 
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dseag2 said:
Thank you for defending my "gayness" but the fact that you call it "gayness" says so much. You make it sound like I am a pariah in this forum and you are the only one who has come to my defense. There are many who support me in this forum, so as much as I appreciate your support I don't need it.

Enjoy this explanation of what Karma really is, and don't hold your breath waiting for something bad to happen to me. Fast forward to 3:02. ;)

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Great clip, thanks for posting it.
 
Autumn72 said:
So as in world war2 we waited and it became bigger that we lost more than any other country because they was allowed to regroup as was mentioned above just like Hitler...to be concerned of China North Korea and Russia closing in on us this time 3 countries not just Germany.
As we allow the Amish Germany run by men only to run a ok Corral for their male population they can't tell you anything of America's History no school after 8th grade. To keep them without a means to join the world as they say is English
I can not understand how a German based religious culture is allowed to be above the law when we are not. I believe they should go back to Germany without the women if they rather stay. Yet they have the upper hand by ripping families apart in allowing rapes of children is closing their eyes to all this Daisy issue going on and the law enforcement will never be fired think there needs to be a war too.
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What did I just read?
 
jerry old said:
You do realize that Mr. Putin does not give a hoot in hell what we think, what NATO thinks, what the world (save China) thinks.
He is a lot of things, but he is not stupid, war crazed yes, stupid no.
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I believe you are partially correct in your statement. Sure Mr. Putin doesn't give a hoot in hell what we think or say on this forum , but he definitely does when it comes to NATO. This is one of the main reasons in his head that he wants countries to stay the hell out of NATO. These sanction coming from these countries will hit his country hard in the financial area and yes that is very important to him. He certainly is not stupid, but is very delusional at times making his thinking process and decisions not the greatest. Not even for his own country as witness by the thousands of people there who are against what he is doing.
 

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