Right on!! There is no shortage of irresponsible Males who "spread their seed", then refuse to support the children they Spawn....leaving the mother to try to earn a living and raise the kids....often in or near poverty. IMO, when a single mother gives birth to a child, the "father" needs to be identified, and if he refuses to participate in the support for the child, he should be given a vasectomy.
If Roe is overturned, the answer is Yes.
Yes, as I understand it we have no federal ban on abortion, so the states are free to legalize. And if Roe v Wade is overturned states will be free to make abortion illegal.
Yes, but we have no consensus on the abortion issue, we do on the holocaust and genocide. As I said you have to draw the line somewhere, it can't be any death. We live by killing other things, things we eat, when we wash our hands we kill millions of bacteria. Lots of other examples.
It is hard to understand from today's point of view. I am sure many slave owners were good people, except for owning slaves. A little like saying most serial killers were nice people most days... As a descendant of slave owners this is something I have thought about a lot, but got no answers as the result.
When it is taking place, there is no consensus on the morality of the holocaust or any other genocide. There were plenty of people in Germany actively participating; maybe willingly, maybe not. Genocide doesn't take place with only one crazed individual doing all the killing, there are lots of individuals involved. Genocide still takes place on a regular basis. I have no idea what motivates them and it doesn't really matter.
There's going to be a hell of a lot more stories like that once abortion is made illegal. Looking at the problem objectively, there should be an abortion clinic on every corner in some neighborhoods. Society pays the ultimate price when poor people have children they can't take care of.
Power over others and the need to fit in are probably the biggest motivating factors, IMO.
Today Oklahoma passed the six week heartbeat abortion ban, while in my state the governor says the abortion laws still remain the same.
I guess it depends on one's view of morality. Take the famous founding father Thomas Jefferson who sexually abused his property, impregnating Sally Hemmings several times. This started when she was 14 years old. He could have been doing the same to many others. These slave women had no rights under the law. They were viewed as no different than cattle. They couldn't refuse. Many feel Jefferson was a "good person" but he was not only a slave owner but also a rapist too. History classes should not only be about the good but also the bad of historical figures.
I'd like to think that most WWII era Germans did not believe the holocaust was right, and probably would agree with what we think today. However I do get your point, our moral sensibilities change over time. I think all we can do is go with what we have consensus on and understand that it could change.
The soul is not something that can be objectively measured or quantified. Its based on belief, not science or critical observation. Does not seem to me to be a reasonable basis for setting law in a secular society or government. I do not believe in the existence of the soul, I know lots of people do. And those that do have a range of beliefs, again no consensus.
I guess we can agree to disagree. I don't base what I think is moral, right or wrong on polls or popular opinion. I personally think that is why things like genocide, slavery and the holocaust occur.
I partly agree, Harry, but...
I understand your skepticism regarding the existance of a soul, I don't understand people who claim to use "science and critical observation" can argue that an unborn in the third trimester is nothing but an inconvenient random collection of cells.
I was thinking the same thing. I also wondered what the law would be if a man could get pregnant ?
I LIKE your idea! Hit 'em in their pockets and where it hurts most.
Agreed. And biology gives men an equal say in whether or not a pregnancy gets started, either through using his own form of birth control or by avoiding intercourse. If they choose neither, or if their birth control fails, and the woman becomes pregnant, the consequences fall far more heavily on her.
Yes, I've been seeing this more and more. Good for them!!!
Eight states and Washington, D.C., allow abortion until birth for any reason (Alaska, Colorado, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont, and New York).
You have got to understand that this occurs extremely rarely and is not a frivolous choice and accounts for LESS THAN ONE PERCENT of all abortions. So, as an issue, it is virtually non existent.
