Am genuinely worried about what is happening in UK

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How random was this location and/or the suspects chosen victims? Was he seen observing or hanging out near the crime scene prior? Did his online activity show research on this school? Did he express doing a high profile act to anyone? Did he know anyone from the school?

Or the pos wanted as many easy targets as possible?

RIP VICTIMS. Their families and friends need to be the focus for now. Not politicians
 

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Looks like civil war has broken out . Today riots and Enough-is-Enough Protests in many major towns and cities... Liverpool.. Manchester... Bristol... Stockport... Hull Blackburn - Leeds...London - Portsmouth - Cardiff - Southend-on-sea - Blackpool

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Blackpool
 
Looks like ciil war has broken out . Today riots and Enough-is-Enough Protests in many major towns and cities... Liverpool.. Manchester... Bristol... Stockport... Hull Blackburn - Leeds...London - Portsmouth - Cardiff - Southend-on-sea - Blackpool

Tbf, that's pretty much a normal weekend in Southend. :D
 

Britain is braced for a weekend of unrest, as jail cells are cleared and lawyers put standby in the wake of the Southport stabbings.

More than 35 rallies are planned in towns and cities across the UK, raising fears that scenes already seen this week of police being attacked and vehicles set alight could be repeated.

Extra lawyers have been hauled in for weekend duty in preparation for a mass crackdown on miscreants, while some plans suggest shuffling prisoners around the country free up more cells in the at risk areas.

It comes as Sunderland was besieged last night, when rioting yobs torched a police station and looted shops, as riot police were attacked with bricks and missiles by hooligans.

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well yes - so that is a monarchy, is it not? Like I said. I didnt say what type of monarchy it was.

But still lost as to how that is relevant to thread.
There is a difference between a Monarch and a Constitutional Monarch. If you’re going to register a dispute, it’s best to know the procedures that need to be followed and who will make the decision of the outcome.
 
A terrifying store of firearms destined for Albanian gangs waging turf wars in Britain have been seized by police in Tirana, Albania on Thursday.

Glock pistols and a Kalashnikov assault rifle were among the 25 weapons discovered during a police raid.

The firearms and hundreds of rounds of ammunition were reportedly meant to be shipped to Albanian gangs in the UK who are marking their territory in an ongoing turf war over drugs and prostitution in London.

Five people were arrested following the discovery of the weapons this week in Tirana, and warrants have been issued for the arrest of three more men in the UK who are believed to be linked to the gang.

Among those arrested was the leader of the criminal group.
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Arsenal of firearms destined for Albanian gangs are seized
 
And this is why so many illegal immigrants come here.. they commit crimes and very few are ever convicted and if they are they're let off with a slap on the wrist to return and do it all again.. we hear this type of story time and time...and time again... No wonder the British people are sick of it...

Prosecutors have admitted that a crime boss who helped plunder billions from cashpoint machine users has paid back just £1 of his ill-gotten gains.

It comes after the Crown Prosecution Service initially told the Mail it couldn't say how much Romanian Ionel Baluta had been ordered to pay back – because it would be 'unfair' to him.

Baluta appears to be living a life of luxury after finishing a jail term for his role as kingpin of an Essex-based gang dubbed the 'world's biggest bank robbers'.

His gang netted around £3 million using stolen debit and credit card details harvested from 'skimming' devices which can be attached to any ATM, train station ticket machine or self-pay petrol pump.

They also sold thousands of the gadgets to organised crime gangs across the globe where they are believed to have raked in billions that helped fund terrorists, people traffickers and arms dealers.
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Baluta (pictured) appears to be living a life of luxury after finishing a jail term for his role as kingpin of an Essex-based gang dubbed the ‘world’s biggest bank robbers’

But despite Baluta personally making £1.3 million from the scam, he was initially ordered to hand back just £1 – which had to be paid by an associate because he was in jail – as most of the cash had been spirited overseas.

Now believed to be living in Sweden, Baluta – who had a string of similar convictions across Europe – has posted pictures of himself sipping champagne as he relaxes in a hot tub with his glamorous new wife.

Other recent posts – in which he uses the name Ionu Zotica – show the couple holidaying in five-star hotels, dining at high-end restaurants or posing in designer clothes.

A former associate said Baluta had ignored further demands to repay the money he stole and was 'almost certainly' using the illicit cash to help fund his lifestyle.

But the CPS initially rejected the Mail's Freedom of Information request to know the total funds recovered from Baluta under the Proceeds of Crime Act.

It said: 'We believe releasing the requested information into the public domain would be unfair to the individuals concerned.'
 
And this is why so many illegal immigrants come here.. they commit crimes and very few are ever convicted and if they are they're let off with a slap on the wrist to return and do it all again.. we hear this type of story time and time...and time again... No wonder the British people are sick of it...

Well, those who believe what they read in the Daily Mail, maybe. But there is no evidence to support this assertion, there is one law for all. It's just repeating the usual propaganda spread by people who prefer to hate on others. In the mean time, Brits go and live in the likes of Spain as immigrants without a care. It's all hypocrisy.

The people rioting are scum, I'm afraid. Let's not elevate them to being thinkers who are concerned about immigrants. They simply want to bring violence to our streets as a form of entertainment. There are no excuses for what they're doing - none.
 
There is a difference between a Monarch and a Constitutional Monarch. If you’re going to register a dispute, it’s best to know the procedures that need to be followed and who will make the decision of the outcome.


I'm not going t o register a dispute - both are monarchies but given there is zero relevance to topic, I am leaving this tangent alone now.
 
Riots have broken out in Manchester today........ ...when is the government going to sit up and take notice at what the people are protesting against and do something about it. We're not the worlds dumping ground for illegal immigrants..


But what has that to do with topic??

Suspect was not an immigrant, let alone an illegal immigrant

and as your own posts showed there have been heinous crimes committed by white British too - yet somehow nobody blames all white people for them. :unsure:
 
But what has that to do with topic??

Suspect was not an immigrant, let alone an illegal immigrant

and as your own posts showed there have been heinous crimes committed by white British too - yet somehow nobody blames all white people for them. :unsure:

It's a red herring. The anti-immigrant rhetoric is a tired left over from the days of the National Front. It's simply racism that is somehow ring-fenced and still legitimatized by the media and Social Media. Honestly, when I read the same old stuff about how bad immigrants are, I cringe. It's embarrassing. Nothing screams "Luddite" more succinctly.

Not that we don't have an issue with illegal immigration - though suggesting it's turning the UK into a "dumping ground" are baseless, since this is a global issue right now. The UK ranks 5th globally in the number of illegal immigrants. Hell, Russia and Saudi Arabia have more. Turkey soaked up more than 4m refugees from Syria, for example.

When I think of illegal immigration I think of why these people might be wanting to leave their own countries. People lazily claim it's the benefit system, or the healthcare. But in reality, many times it's because their own countries have been crippled by the actions of own governments. Too often we've bombed their infrastructure into oblivion, or are using the banking system to stamp on their necks. We, as in the west, cause a lot of this and then complain when it happens.

In the end, the migration issue is mostly down to inefficient government. More resources need to poured into processing Asylum Seeker processing, along with refugee and migrant applications. We need to be able to turn around assessments more quickly. The UK is signed up to the 1951 Refugee Convention, so we are compelled to process people.

I have lived abroad as an immigrant. I have lived as an immigrant in more than one country, and in one case I went without knowing a single word of the native language. Brits pour over to the likes of Spain and France to live out their retirement. The difference between us and the migrants most talk about it, is that the migrants are poor. It's all a matter of wealth. As someone from a western country, I was able to go to another country with cash in my pocket. You do that, and people tend to think of you differently. So in the end, it's about the (relatively) rich, and poor. Got money to buy or rent a chateau? Great! Don't have it and running from persecution? Nah.
 
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I totally agree with your post Vaughan - and as I said earlier unfortunately it doesnt take much to set off racist thugs like these rioters - even when i n fact the incident setting them off has no connection to their rant about illegal immigrants.
 
I totally agree with your post Vaughan - and as I said earlier unfortunately it doesnt take much to set off racist thugs like these rioters - even when i n fact the incident setting them off has no connection to their rant about illegal immigrants.

There are no excuses for what these people are doing. None. I'm not entirely surprised some say they "can understand" the actions, because this self-hatred has been spread about liberally throughout the internet. But imagine if that was your car being burned out? Imagine that was your store/building being set ablaze or destroyed. Imagine your kids were embroiled against their wishes.

There simply is no way to see this action as reasonable. They're thugs. They're the most divisive in our society. They're part of the problem. Perhaps, if they really dislike life in the UK so much, they might want to consider going somewhere else themselves?
 
Yeah some countries like China and Japan have very strict rules on knives. In fact some regions of China if you have a pocket knife you will be in jail. Japan is crazy strict. Yet... China stabbings occur regularly because you can't regulate or stop kitchen knives from being sold. Just like gun free cities in the us that just so happen to have the most shootings in the entire country. You can't stop crime.
 
I of course do not wish to be insensitive, and I am not in anyway racist, but... statistics speak for themselves. Unfortunate that the truth is censored by the media. 32 percent increase in immigration correlates to a 37 percent increase in crime during the same time period. Coincidence? Maybe. But anyone with a half a brain can see it is not.
 
I of course do not wish to be insensitive, and I am not in anyway racist, but... statistics speak for themselves. Unfortunate that the truth is censored by the media. 32 percent increase in immigration correlates to a 37 percent increase in crime during the same time period. Coincidence? Maybe. But anyone with a half a brain can see it is not.

Which country are you referencing, and where do you get your data from? How exactly does, "32% increase in immigration correlate to 37% crime..."? What other potential contributing variables have been tested and ruled out in order for someone to come to this conclusion?

Correlation does not imply causation. Other variables could contribute to changes in crime rates -- over a time period that you don't specify, in a country that you don't mention.

"...anyone with half a brain can see...", there is nothing statistically tangible within your post. Without facts and data, your whole post seems biased.

As for your statement at the end of your post, "Coincidence? Maybe. But anyone with a half a brain can see it is not."
This just simply seems like a poor attempt to dismiss anyone who challenges the accuracy of your post, with a dig at their intelligence level, even before someone attempts to respond to your post.

It is either a "Coincidence? Maybe." or, "...it is not", [definitely]. It can't be both at the same time.
 
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I generally find that the tendency to cry racist indicates severe psychological trauma.
In what way? And who is crying racist? Or are you saying these rioters are not racist? Their placards would suggest otherwise.

Whereas " I am not racist but... " isn't me saying it, it is well known cliche. Easily googlable if you need to see it is not just my perception.

To clarify, I am not saying Tazx is racist - just that it is best not to start a sentence with that disclaimer as it is such a well known prelude to usually racist statements.
 

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