It seems you've completely picked up the wrong end of the stick. Why are you redirecting your irritation with others in this thread into your response to me? Either that, or you simply posted a rant with little connection to what I actually said.
Brilliant reply. Thank you. Apparently you decided to pick up the gauntlet I laid at hollydolly's feet, who I believe became offended at a comment I made a few weeks ago and blocked me. IOW, you did her work for her.
Looks like you are reading far more into my reply than was there. I responded purely on the substance of the comment, not on behalf of anyone else, and certainly not to 'do someone’s work for them'. If your aim was to spark a productive conversation, then that’s what I was engaging with -- not any personal side issues you might have with others in the thread.
Who cares if HD blocked you -- I presume you mean placed you on ignore. HD has had me on ignore on and off, mostly on, since the, “
Attention all British drivers.. be aware of this legality” thread. You know you have arrived when she puts you on ignore -- embrace it. It's an accolade I'm quite proud of.
Now insert the part of weapons at large. That includes knives, toasters, cricket bats, scimitars, machetes, and similar objects that could conceivably be used as a weapon. Run the numbers again and let's see what we have.
In part I did, with the UK stat that included all homicides, still significantly lower than USA gun homicides. Did you actually read what I posted?
Since you ask for more data, here goes:
As I already posted, the overall homicide rate in England and Wales was
0.99 per 100,000 people. Scotland no doubt collects its own data. 39% involved a knife or sharp instrument. Homicides involving a firearm were only 4% of the total.
In the United States, the CDC reports that for 2023, the overall homicide rate was around
7.5 per 100,000. Firearms were used in approximately 80% of those homicides.
Let me give you a hint -- you apparently live in the UK. You are neither subject to nor associated with the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. Therefore, your data collection effort doesn't amount to much with me.
On one hand, you are asking for data, but on the other hand, you are dismissing the data based on where someone lives. Are you trying to have a serious discussion? What on earth has the 2nd amendment got to do with data you keep asking to be provided?
And to be quite blunt and at the risk of repeating myself throughout this thread, I don't care what you (meaning those who live outside the USA) think about firearms, the reason for the 2A, and similar discussions. In a word, what you think and believe is meaningless and has no impact on citizens of the USA.
Now here is the thing, you haven't got the faintest idea what I think and believe, because I've not expressed that yet. I get the impression that you have made a number of self imposed assumptions regarding my post. Then reinforced those misguided assumptions with even more of your own assumptions.
But apart from all that, my overall point is simply this -- weapons are not limited to firearms. If firearm ownership is restricted (as presumably is the case in the UK), if somebody is pissed off enough, they'll use whatever weapon is handy to commit violence. And yes, that happens in the UK as well as it does everywhere.
Well done, you got there eventually. We are pretty much on the same page then. Have you thought of asking for clarifications and elaborations of people's posts instead of attacking them with assumptions.
