Where do we deport Sharia infused immigrants?

Once again, suggesting that a national security problem exists and discussing solutions makes on a racist.

I am not sure what the so called "white privilege" has to do with Muslims. Sounds like the usual leftist "dog whistle".
 
Once again, suggesting that a national security problem exists and discussing solutions makes on a racist.

I am not sure what the so called "white privilege" has to do with Muslims. Sounds like the usual leftist "dog whistle".

Hmm. Considering that many of my clients are Muslims, perhaps I have a different perspective.
 

I, too, have wondered just how this "vetting" process will go. What is this "questioning" one speaks of? Let's see.

"Mr. Habib, do you believe the Koran is inspired by Allah and do you adhere to its teachings?"
"Yes, Mr. Trumpete. I do."
"Guard! Deport Mr. Habib and his family because he is a dangerous person."

"Mr. Jones, do you believe the Bible to be the inspired Word of God and do you adhere to its teachings... including if a man cuts his hair he is to be put to death and any non-believers are to be slain?"
"Well, Mr. Trumpete. I believe in the Bible but really don't hold with all those old testament teachings."
"Guard! Show Mr. Jones to the door. Give him a gift card for dinner at one of my resorts. He's not dangerous, he's not a Muslim or a Mexican."

If a person is bent on doing harm to the U.S. citizens, will he actually tell an interviewer that he believes all infidels should be killed? If he plans on carrying a bomb into a crowd, will he tell a government agent he believes Sharia Law should prevail in the U.S. and he plans on seeing that happen? The so-called "vetting" process is simply a means of denying entry to the U.S. by anyone of foreign descent... except those from countries where Trump and cronies have financial interests. How many of the recent mass murders have been committed by immigrants from Islamic countries? OTOH, how many by radicalized U.S. citizens? Is Trump suggesting each and every person's Facebook. e-mail, phone texts, etc. will be monitored to make certain no threats come from within?

His plan is NOT a plan! His plan is nothing but campaign rhetoric. designed to stir the masses of rednecks and religious zealots so they will vote for him.
 
O.K. Shamimar - assuming that your clients think of themselves as Americans who happen to practice the Muslim religion, would they not consider the protection of America as a priority - or would they play the "white privilege" game or maybe the other one - "white guilt".
 
O.K. Shamimar - assuming that your clients think of themselves as Americans who happen to practice the Muslim religion, would they not consider the protection of America as a priority - or would they play the "white privilege" game or maybe the other one - "white guilt".
Hi Ray, I am a Canadian, living in Canada, so I think their first loyalty would be to the Maple Leaf.
 
Lon's original premise reminds me of the infamous White Australia Policy that was designed to keep out undesirable aliens i.e. most coloureds, the Chinese in particular, Jews and lots of people who weren't of British descent.

The instrument used was a spelling test in the form of a dictation in any language chosen by the interviewer. If you wanted them to fail, the test was in Welsh.

Not very fair but had the desired effect of population screening.
 
Determining those of Shaira belief could be determined by a low key brief interview.
Good idea!
And those infected with Sharia Law, should be given the chance to be with their mates at home, so sending them back from whence they came, could 'possibly' be a joyous relief for many.
 
Lon's original premise reminds me of the infamous White Australia Policy that was designed to keep out undesirable aliens i.e. most coloureds, the Chinese in particular, Jews and lots of people who weren't of British descent.

The instrument used was a spelling test in the form of a dictation in any language chosen by the interviewer. If you wanted them to fail, the test was in Welsh.

Not very fair but had the desired effect of population screening.

Warri--- I have no problem with any people of color, ethnicity, religion or political belief. I do have a problem with admitting those that MAY be detrimental to the continuation of our country and society by following religious laws that conflict with our Federal & State laws.
 
I'm talking about the decision to discriminate against any one class of people and then finding some unfair and arbitrary way to act against them. That's what the White Australia Policy had as its foundation.

A spelling test or a few questions will not provide a reliable legally supportable filter. Even your term "sharia infused" is so vague that it is meaningless. On one interpretation it could mean every Muslim on the planet. On another it could mean every iman.
 
I think immigrants coming into this country should learn our culture and attempt to blend into our society. Learn our language, our traditions, abide by our laws. They can hold onto their traditions and any part of their culture that does not interfere with our laws. Their laws do not supercede laws of this country. I am tolerant in many ways but it is important that they attempt to assimilate into our society. If they break our laws, they must be treated the same way we all are.
 
Where has anyone gotten the idea that there is a push to replace our laws with Sharia? Except in the minds of the Radicals... both Islamic AND our Conservatives.
 
I think immigrants coming into this country should learn our culture and attempt to blend into our society. Learn our language, our traditions, abide by our laws. They can hold onto their traditions and any part of their culture that does not interfere with our laws. Their laws do not supercede laws of this country. I am tolerant in many ways but it is important that they attempt to assimilate into our society. If they break our laws, they must be treated the same way we all are.

Perfect. I am a product of Noo Yawk. We had every ethnic group imaginable. While the new arrivals often clung to the old language and everyone clung to the holidays and traditions (lotsa beer on St. Paddy's Day), the next generation and following generations fully assimilated - but the "fun stuff" (biergartens, e.g.) continued, and "open to all".

And, to your last point, we all had the same laws.
 
Chicago is diverse.. and is a "city of neighborhoods"... We have a specific neighborhood for nearly every nationality and ethnic group. It's human nature to want to be with people and a culture that is familiar to you. It's normal to want to be able to communicate in your native language. True assimilation generally does not occur until the 2nd generation. The children of immigrants will be the ones to assimilate. My great grandparents came from Germany. They lived in a German speaking neighborhood. My great grandparents never really did pick up English well.. However my grandparents DID.. and my parents did not speak any German beyond a few words and phrases. Why do people think Hispanics must speak English and assimilate on DAY ONE?? Seriously.. it seems to be a different standard being espoused.
 
Warri--- I have no problem with any people of color, ethnicity, religion or political belief. I do have a problem with admitting those that MAY be detrimental to the continuation of our country and society by following religious laws that conflict with our Federal & State laws.

Can you please explain HOW? Where do you get the idea that their religious laws will prevail over our law? If they break our laws they are arrested. I don't know why you are so fearful of this..
 
"Their faith would compel them to respond honestly..."

Time for a little levity.

The Irish Ballad
by Tom Lehrer

About a maid I'll sing a song,
Sing rickety-tickety-tin,
About a maid I'll sing a song
Who didn't have her family long.
Not only did she do them wrong,
She did ev'ryone of them in, them in,
She did ev'ryone of them in.


One morning in a fit of pique,
Sing rickety-tickety-tin,
One morning in a fit of pique,
She drowned her father in the creek.
The water tasted bad for a week,
And we had to make do with gin, with gin,
We had to make do with gin.


Her mother she could never stand,
Sing rickety-tickety-tin,
Her mother she cold never stand,
And so a cyanide soup she planned.
The mother died with a spoon in her hand,
And her face in a hideous grin, a grin,
Her face in a hideous grin.

She set her sister's hair on fire,
Sing rickety-tickety-tin,
She set her sister's hair on fire,
And as the smoke and flame rose high'r,
Danced around the funeral pyre,
Playin' a violin, -olin,
Playin' a violin.


She weighted her brother down with stones,
Rickety-tickety-tin,
She weighted her brother down with stones,
And sent him off to davy jones.
All they ever found were some bones,
And occasional pieces of skin, of skin,
Occasional pieces of skin.


One day when she had nothing to do,
Sing rickety-tickety-tin,
One day when she had nothing to do,
She cut her baby brother in two,
And served him up as an irish stew,
And invited the neighbors in, -bors in,
Invited the neighbors in.


And when at last the police came by,
Sing rickety-tickety-tin,
And when at last the police came by,
Her little pranks she did not deny,
To do so she would have had to lie,
And lying, she knew, was a sin, a sin,

Lying, she knew, was a sin.



My tragic tale, I won't prolong,
Rickety-tickety-tin,
My tragic tale I won't prolong,
And if you do not enjoy the song,
You've yourselves to blame if it's too long,
You should never have let me begin, begin,
You should never have let me begin.

 
QuickSilver asked: Why do people think Hispanics must speak English

Isn't that what Trump wants by what he stated: "Only English should be spoken in America."

Is Trump going to make all schools stop foreign language classes? Is he also going to make his son Barron stop speaking French and Slovenian and only use English? Same for his wife? Or is he just going to be a hypocrite?
 
I agree with you Shalimar. There isn't and shouldn't be anything wrong with it. Trump is sounding more and more like a dictator whenever he opens his mouth.
 


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