Another ethics question - the death of Cecil the Lion

It is heartening to see the HUGE public outrage against this moron. Hopefully he will never be able to show his disgusting face in public.. or practice dentistry again. That would be the very least of a punishment.. I'm hoping he is put in jail, or extradited back to Africa to stand trial.
 

Kitties said:
Jump to conclusions. I'm disgusted. I saw this on CNN last night and had to change the channel. I'm still ill inside. This is sick what someone does with their money. This is what gives someone pleasure? What happens to this person I have no control over. I think they are gross. I hope many stop going to his practice. I sure would.

This isn't sport.
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I agree with you Kitties, and what burns every time I hear about this story, they frame it within the context of 'trophy hunting'. This morning a guy said '....people enjoy trophy hunting....' when what they should be saying is 'some people enjoy killing things'. Because they aren't doing it to survive (heads and skins only is their 'trophy') and if it was about 'honing' their accuracy with their weapon of choice, they'd be shooting at targets. But no, it's a living creature, that suffers, bleeds and dies.

In my opinion, trophy hunters are serial killers, same motivations, same methods, same result.
 
RadishRose said:
The killer-dentist has gone into hiding says the news this morning. He sent an email to his patients explaining something about the business being interrupted.

How does it feel to be hunted Dr. Palmer?
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Love, love, love your comment RadishRose!
 

Debby said:
I agree with you Kitties, and what burns every time I hear about this story, they
within the context of 'trophy hunting'. This morning a guy said '....people enjoy trophy hunting....' when what they should be saying is 'some people enjoy killing things'. Because they aren't doing it to survive (heads and skins only is their 'trophy') and if it was about 'honing' their accuracy with their weapon of choice, they'd be shooting at targets. But no, it's a living creature, that suffers, bleeds and dies.

In my opinion, trophy hunters are serial killers, same motivations, same methods, same result.
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I also love yours, Debby. So true.
 
Debby said:
What's that saying, 'ignorance of the law is no excuse'? That dentist was a participant in an illegal act, and apparently after the cat was butchered they tried to cut the collar off of it! So he's involved, he's guilty.

And aside from that, bow hunting?!!!! For forty hours that poor animal wandered through the bush with an arrow stuck in his body! Can you imagine how he suffered? Personally, I hope his practise dies as surely as his victims do. And maybe his kids will learn something from this experience, that 'your meanest, cruelest actions have consequences that are far from pleasant'.
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The guide was the one who should've kept him legal regardless and he did not. Although as much hunting as this guy has done he should be able to distinguish things like boundaries and no kill areas. The fact that they even baited/lured the lion to make it legal should have rang bells in his head.

Did anybody actually get the meat other than nature?
 
Cecil's bones will be used in some kind of memorial but right now they are lying out in the open, being consumed by natural consumer organisms.

I once watched a kangaroo carcase reduced to bare bones in a week, mainly due to the action of ants and flies.
 
WhatInThe said:
The guide was the one who should've kept him legal regardless and he did not. Although as much hunting as this guy has done he should be able to distinguish things like boundaries and no kill areas. The fact that they even baited/lured the lion to make it legal should have rang bells in his head.

Did anybody actually get the meat other than nature?
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Legal or not, IMHO it is a morally reprehensible act to kill for "fun." I can't even express how disgusted I am that people pay/take money to kill a beautiful wild beast just for fun.
 
Palmer must be extradited and made to pay for this outrageous crime but, more importantly, this disgusting practice of "trophy hunting" must stop. It's sickening and infuriating beyond words.
 
Glinda said:
Palmer must be extradited and made to pay for this outrageous crime but, more importantly, this disgusting practice of "trophy hunting" must stop. It's sickening and infuriating beyond words.
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Absolutely agree!!! I realize we can't control what other countries make legal, but the US should somehow make it illegal for its citizens to participate in such practices and illegal to bring such "trophies" into the US.
 
RadishRose said:
The killer-dentist has gone into hiding says the news this morning. He sent an email to his patients explaining something about the business being interrupted.

How does it feel to be hunted Dr. Palmer?
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So true. Now he knows first hand what it feels like to be "the hunted". Not a nice feeling for sure. The lion may be dead, but he wins this round.
 
Some closing observations on the death of Cecil. Why do some educated successful wealthy men feel it necessary to hunt, kill and maim a large predator? I say SOME men, because I know most men here would never do this. What satisfaction can there be? What purpose does it serve? Wouldn't it have been better for Dr. Palmer to use his wealth to learn photography, travel to Africa ( or wherever ) and capture some unforgettable shots of the wildlife there that everyone could marvel at and appreciate for all time?

I simply do not understand some men's need to kill like this.
 
Glinda said:
Palmer must be extradited and made to pay for this outrageous crime but, more importantly, this disgusting practice of "trophy hunting" must stop. It's sickening and infuriating beyond words.
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I agree. I'm still trying to deal with my anger. I haven't eaten meat in almost 25 years. I don't use eggs or dairy. I've been in bed thinking of animals being killed in slaughter houses, but this sadness and anger, I don't know what to do with. Right now I'm mad at the world and everyone in it. Including myself I should add.
 
With all the years of big game poaching going on in Africa, they are making a issue about an old lion. Wonder if this is some kind of vendetta?
 
Looks like The Donald Jr. gets his jollies like this.

6. Eric Trump & Donald Trump Jr.

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The trump sons, Donald Trump Jr., left, with his brother, Eric, carrying their trophy kill, a wild leopard. Photo Credit: 2oceansvibe.com

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In 2012, Donald Trump’s sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, received their five minutes of fame after pictures surfaced of the two posing with dead wild animals. Among the animals killed were an elephant, kudu, civet cat, crocodile, and waterbuck. When activists voiced their outrage, Don Jr. pretentiously replied that his kills were feeding a village.

For someone who considers himself a businessman—meaning he works at daddy’s firm—Don seemed to be missing the bigger picture. For example, villagers would have been better served with resources to set up non-hunting wild safaris that would not only help their economy for years, but also assist in preserving their most precious resource, the wildlife—instead of only feeding villagers for a few days.

This is a case of two entitled apples not falling far from the moronic tree. Hey boys, here’s an idea: spend daddy’s money on something helpful instead of destroying the world’s natural heritage.

- See more at: http://www.globalanimal.org/2015/07/30/animal-cruelty-hall-of-shame/#sthash.7upr7TCA.dpuf
 
Linda said:
To me, the fact that it was Cecil is beside the point. I don't think trophy hunting should be legal anywhere in the world. And morally I don't see how anyone could think it's OK. How can that man look at himself in the mirror every morning as he shaves? I had a low opinion of Roy Rogers for the same reason. I have helped my dad kill chickens and rabbits to eat before but I don't think it's ok to just kill for the fun of it. I could say more about why that dentist might want to kill large virile animals but it might get me kicked off from here so I'll just keep it to myself. (Or post it over on Facebook) :)
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I think exactly the same as you Linda.
 
But I would also add..... To anyone who says ' he should never have a dental practice again etc.' This is his livelihood and he has every right to be a dentist, his family would suffer otherwise, not just him.There is too much hate out there.
 

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