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Was "Nikolas" Cruz adopted from Russia ??
Russians are infamous for alcohol problems.


" Cruz was adopted at birth, along with his biological brother Zachary, by loving older couple Roger and Lynda Cruz, after the couple moved from Long Island in New York to Broward County. Roger died several years ago from a heart attack.

It's unclear if he was adopted from the U.S. or aboard. Adopted children from abroad sometimes have issues adjusting due to neglect in their orphanages, especially children from Russia. "

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" Another classmate, Emily Sucher, 16, remembered Cruz as an 'off kid' who would 'smile weirdly, make weird comments.'

In the hours since the shooting, there has been speculation Cruz may have fetal alcohol syndrome - a congenital condition which causes developmental and behavioral issues - given his facial features - a low nasal bridge, small eyes and thin upper lip - and behavior."

more at link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5393601/Instagram-school-shooters-guns-violence-hurting-animals.html

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KingsX said:
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Was "Nikolas" Cruz adopted from Russia ??
Russians are infamous for alcohol problems.


" Cruz was adopted at birth, along with his biological brother Zachary, by loving older couple Roger and Lynda Cruz, after the couple moved from Long Island in New York to Broward County. Roger died several years ago from a heart attack.

It's unclear if he was adopted from the U.S. or aboard. Adopted children from abroad sometimes have issues adjusting due to neglect in their orphanages, especially children from Russia. "

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" Another classmate, Emily Sucher, 16, remembered Cruz as an 'off kid' who would 'smile weirdly, make weird comments.'

In the hours since the shooting, there has been speculation Cruz may have fetal alcohol syndrome - a congenital condition which causes developmental and behavioral issues - given his facial features - a low nasal bridge, small eyes and thin upper lip - and behavior."

more at link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l-shooters-guns-violence-hurting-animals.html

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I wouldn't put too much weight on anything that appears in the Daily Mail. The above is pure speculation and is designed to create a distraction from the elephant in the room - the fact that he was in possession of an AR - 15, the weapon of choice for efficient massacres.
 
Warrigal said:
I wouldn't put too much weight on anything that appears in the Daily Mail. The above is pure speculation and is designed to create a distraction from the elephant in the room - the fact that he was in possession of an AR - 15, the weapon of choice for efficient massacres.
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I've owned and target practiced with an AR-15.
It is a very popular rifle to own here in Texas.
 
Warrigal said:
Easy, and fun to shoot?
Is that why it is popular with teenage boys?
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Personally, I think violent TV shows, movies and video games warp young minds.

How many virtual humans has the average teenager virtually shot and killed ??

Boys used to be taught by their fathers how and when to responsibly handle weapons.

Now the fathers are also watching violent shows and playing violent video games.
 
Shalimar said:
Do you have any suggestions re what might work in America?
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No. Because they're all impractical. People will not give up their guns ---- there are at least 300 million guns in the U.S. That stockpile won't be given up and no one can be compelled. The permanent damage is done (with the stockpile) and we'll be on to the next mass shooting in a week or two.
If I had different circumstances, I would leave the U.S., largely over this issue, tout suite.
 
KingsX said:
Personally, I think violent TV shows, movies and video games warp young minds.

How many virtual humans has the average teenager virtually shot and killed ??

Boys used to be taught by their fathers how and when to responsibly handle weapons.

Now the fathers are also watching violent shows and playing violent video games.
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Yeah but didn't some used to say that the violence of Roadrunner & Coyote influenced us as well ? I never developed an urge to drop an anvil anyone's head.....do you really think the shows are that influencing ?......not arguing, just thinking out loud.
 
rgp said:
Yeah but didn't some used to say that the violence of Roadrunner & Coyote influenced us as well ? I never developed an urge to drop an anvil anyone's head.....do you really think the shows are that influencing ?......not arguing, just thinking out loud.
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Agree, and I watched the exact same cartoons.

But then I had a mother and father that taught me right from wrong - maybe that's the secret.

Admittedly, though, the violence level in movies and TV has increased in both frequency and intensity. Popular shows like The Walking Dead are highly graphic, yet millions watch it without getting the urge to cleave a head.
 
KingsX said:
. " Cruz was adopted at birth, along with his biological brother Zachary, by loving older couple Roger and Lynda Cruz, after the couple moved from Long Island in New York to Broward County. Roger died several years ago from a heart attack.

It's unclear if he was adopted from the U.S. or aboard. Adopted children from abroad sometimes have issues adjusting due to neglect in their orphanages, especially children from Russia. "
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I would never believe anything written by a journalist who contradicts himself that badly as if no one should notice. I wonder which of the reporter's statements is true.

If Cruz was adopted at birth, he wasn't neglected in an orphanage.
 
Well, EXCUSE ME, But MY feelings involve the victims; not this creep who, before his execution, should be

Water Boarded at least ONCE for each one of his victims.

Word gets around ya know and perhaps things MAY change.
 
rgp said:
Yeah but didn't some used to say that the violence of Roadrunner & Coyote influenced us as well ? I never developed an urge to drop an anvil anyone's head.....do you really think the shows are that influencing ?......not arguing, just thinking out loud.
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Cartoons are not realistic.

In violent TV shows and movies the audience is passive, but violent thoughts are planted.

In violent video games, the audience participates in the violence. How many virtual humans has the average teenager virtually killed ??
 
SifuPhil said:
Agree, and I watched the exact same cartoons.

But then I had a mother and father that taught me right from wrong - maybe that's the secret.

Admittedly, though, the violence level in movies and TV has increased in both frequency and intensity. Popular shows like The Walking Dead are highly graphic, yet millions watch it without getting the urge to cleave a head.
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But the seed of violence is planted in a sick society where violence is "entertainment."
Fortunately, for most of us that seed doesn't germinate.

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Falcon said:
Well, EXCUSE ME, But MY feelings involve the victims; not this creep who, before his execution, should be

Water Boarded at least ONCE for each one of his victims.

Word gets around ya know and perhaps things MAY change.
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I agree....way too much concern these days for the criminals...Not near enough for the victims & the families they leave behind.

We {America} has developed a 'coddling' approach when it comes to criminals. I do not get it nor do I agree with it.

While I support our system...I question some aspects of it. We have arrest / prosecution & a trial, for the purpose of determining innocence or guilt. The most obvious example I can think of is the shooting of the congress woman in Arizona. I mean the perpetrator was standing there with the smoking gun literally in hand. he WAS guilty ! there was no need for a trial. Shoot him...period.

Worrying about [why] he did it really does not matter...because the next whacko that does something similar, will have a different 'reason'...a different 'why'.
 
KingsX said:
But the seed of violence is planted in a sick society where violence is "entertainment."
Fortunately, for most of us that seed doesn't germinate.

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So do we call up McCarthy and HUAC and set about cleaning up the world? I doubt that would work in this day and age.

You can't change people's basic nature.
 
SifuPhil said:
You can't change people's basic nature.
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Nor can you change "people's basic nature" with gun-control.

Ironically, after mass shootings like this, liberals beat their drums for gun control, and gun sales go UP !
 

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