Attorney General James Files Lawsuit to Dissolve NRA

Why, Camper? You seem to have a pretty sane, sensible perspective on this, until you get to that last sentence. If you think you really "need" a gun to live in this country, you are probably getting your ideas about life in the U.S. from old-time western movies.

I've lived here all my life, have never owned a gun, neither did my parents or my husband, neither do my children or grandchildren, and we all manage to get along here just fine. I think by following the media, you get a somewhat distorted picture of the danger of not having a gun in your hand at all times. The NRA would like to have you think that's true; it isn't.
Likely depends on where you live too.
 

Why, Camper? You seem to have a pretty sane, sensible perspective on this, until you get to that last sentence. If you think you really "need" a gun to live in this country, you are probably getting your ideas about life in the U.S. from old-time western movies.

I've lived here all my life, have never owned a gun, neither did my parents or my husband, neither do my children or grandchildren, and we all manage to get along here just fine. I think by following the media, you get a somewhat distorted picture of the danger of not having a gun in your hand at all times. The NRA would like to have you think that's true; it isn't.

I have never owned a 'real' gun. I never felt I needed one as the number of handguns in Canada are minimal compared to the U.S. Most are long guns used for hunting. Everyone in my coffee club (10) owns a rifle.
But in the U.S. handguns are more common and are used for holdups and car jacking and similar.
Now that trend is heading for Canada. We are getting armed holdups now we never had before.
I would want the gun to defend myself.
At one time I would go out walking at 2 a.m.
 

I was a member of the NRA, years ago, before and during the time when Charlton Heston was it's leader. Back then, the emphasis was on gun safety and responsible ownership. After LaPierre took over, the "integrity" of that organization seemed to be declining, IMO. I let my membership lapse 15+ years ago, and forgot about that group.
I agree with you completely about the recent 15 years or so, however, they are the only ones fighting to defend the second amendment. I don't shoot but may join just to help keep the constitution intact, even if I don't care for what the organization has become lately.
I really believe first there will be gun registration and then gun confiscation! Hopefully, It won't happen yet!
 
What happens when you accidentally kill an innocent?
You could ask that question about the use of many tools.
Would to avoid using all tools because you might have an accident? Have you ever driven a car?
I learned to drive responsibly.
I learned to own a gun responsibly.
I learned to shoot responsibly (if I have to).
Even ads for alcohol say, "Please Drink Responsibly."

Have you ever asked a police officer the same question? They have accidentally killed innocents. Do you think they should not carry guns?
 
Cops need guns. Ordinary folks do not NEED guns.

Ah....a major Controller who likes telling everyone else what to do. And deciding that whatever they don't want, nobody should have.

A smart person known their limitations.

Nothing wrong with individuals deciding not to own a gun. Plenty wrong with someone making that decision for others.
Cops rarely prevent a crime; they can't be everywhere in a few seconds. They take a report & call the coroner.
Some people don't want to become victims and are willing to take the responsibility for their own protection. It ain't up to you, dear.
 
Your gonna have to find someone else to spout off at cuz I'm not gonna argue with you. My opinions are just as valuable as anyone else's here. And I'm sick to death of people starting with the name calling the minute someone doesn't agree with them. Is that really all you have in your armory is smart remarks and name calling?
 
Your gonna have to find someone else to spout off at cuz I'm not gonna argue with you. My opinions are just as valuable as anyone else's here. And I'm sick to death of people starting with the name calling the minute someone doesn't agree with them. Is that really all you have in your armory is smart remarks and name calling?
Yes, we can see how valuable your opinions are.
And we can see how quickly you run away instead of admitting you're wrong.
By the way, who would you consider "Ordinary Folks?" I don't understand what ordinary folks are? Anyone who's not a cop?
 
Yes, we can see how valuable your opinions are.
And we can see how quickly you run away instead of admitting you're wrong.
By the way, who would you consider "Ordinary Folks?" I don't understand what ordinary folks are? Anyone who's not a cop?
And you're always right? Is that it? Goodnight win
 
are we talking apples and oranges-sure seems so
Don makes sense...
Never lived in a house without guns, all the acquaintance's I hung with had guns,
none ever shot at a person unless they were in danger. There have been no bodies
as of today.
There was a post: 'when the bad people come, "call your social worker."

We don't take our guns, get likkered up, do drive-bys, raise hell, rob people, don't kill our spouses or anybody-unless we are endangered. -I've never had a young person
(under 12 or so) in my home without demanding the parent monitor any kid that crossed by doorstep...

Curious, have any of these mass killers been NRA members?
 
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That suit will be laughed right out of the court if indeed it is even entertained there. The NRA does no sell guns. It is an advocacy group for the 2nd Amendment Rights of our Constitution. It is not responsible for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and I have dealt with all types of weapons. Gun makers do add safety measures to them in order to avoid accidents. Home made guns or those that have been tampered with by an individual who has one is not the responsibility of the NRA. Blaming them for who has a weapon and what that person does with it is utterly stupid.
 
I am a Life member of the NRA. Retired LEO, 32yrs. The NRA is not the problem, but Wayne LaPierre and his cronies are. They have corrupted what was a good organization. He has turned the NRA into a money making scheme to make a select few rich. He needs to go but he and his cronies changed the structure of the NRA to ensure they maintain control. I am no fan of Letitia James but I hope her actions helps shed public light on the corruption within the NRA and maybe get rid of the corruption. Most long time/life members are aware of Wayne LaPierre’s corruption but have been unable to remove him. The internal issues are similar to what has happened to our Federal government.
 
Why, Camper? You seem to have a pretty sane, sensible perspective on this, until you get to that last sentence. If you think you really "need" a gun to live in this country, you are probably getting your ideas about life in the U.S. from old-time western movies.

I've lived here all my life, have never owned a gun, neither did my parents or my husband, neither do my children or grandchildren, and we all manage to get along here just fine. I think by following the media, you get a somewhat distorted picture of the danger of not having a gun in your hand at all times. The NRA would like to have you think that's true; it isn't.

Strange, I've lived here all my life (so far) too, and I've owned a gun all my life, as did my parents and yet, I have managed to get along just fine. Never had to shoot at or had the desire to shoot at another person. (excluding my military time of course).
I'm beginning to think that it's possible that YOU are the one getting a distorted picture that American citizens legally owning a weapon are running around gun's in their hand ready to instantly shoot someone who may disagree with them. Sad.
 
I am a Life member of the NRA. Retired LEO, 32yrs. The NRA is not the problem, but Wayne LaPierre and his cronies are. They have corrupted what was a good organization. He has turned the NRA into a money making scheme to make a select few rich. He needs to go but he and his cronies changed the structure of the NRA to ensure they maintain control. I am no fan of Letitia James but I hope her actions helps shed public light on the corruption within the NRA and maybe get rid of the corruption. Most long time/life members are aware of Wayne LaPierre’s corruption but have been unable to remove him. The internal issues are similar to what has happened to our Federal government.

This is what I understand the lawsuit to be about - corruption. The NRA represents itself as a charitable foundation and seeks public and corporate donations. The lawsuit is all about how a good deal of that money has been diverted to benefit the senior leaders of the non-profit group who wasted millions of dollars of members’ money on their own luxury travel, personal gifts from retailers like Neiman Marcus and Bergdorf Goodman, family vacations to the Bahamas and big game hunts in Africa. Is this standard operating procedure for charities?
 
I'm beginning to think that it's possible that YOU are the one getting a distorted picture that American citizens legally owning a weapon are running around gun's in their hand ready to instantly shoot someone who may disagree with them. Sad.

Stop putting words in my mouth, or pictures in my head, Squatting Dog. Those "legally owned" weapons have been responsible for thousands of needless deaths, people getting shot by family members during domestic quarrels, tragically fallen into the hands of kids, are stolen by burglars, used by racists all the time to terrorize or murder minorities, etc. And many of the most horrendous mass shootings are committed by people who bought their weapons legally. It's in the news every single day. Sad, as you say.

Marci, about your statement that "Cops need guns. Ordinary folks do not NEED guns,"

it is my understanding that the police in other countries do not always carry guns. England is one. If that is true, somehow they manage.
 
Still want to see how many members of the NRA have been arrested for a crime
where firearms are involved.

I don't know beans about the NRA; I know they donate a lot of money to politicians.

I've always thought of them as a political action group who's political views are far
more complicated that the right to own firearms.

The sums they donate to politicans are far more than they have in their kitty from
due paying members.

Watergate taught us to study all things, but most of all: 'Follow the money.'
 
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The argument I have with guns is that they are used to settle petty arguments. That's awful.
No one would disagree. Idiots are part of the human species. Including on the road. But I'm not giving up my right to drive because of other peoples' bad behavior. And I'm not giving up my right to self defense because of the criminal actions of others.
We don't have a gun problem; we have a crime problem that we don't want to deal with. Responsible gun owners are not the problem.
If my neighbor has too many kids, should I be required to have a vasectomy?
 

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