Austria to begin lockdown on the unvaccinated tonight

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At midnight tonight, Austria begins a lockdown on the unvaccinated. Unvaccinated people will only be allowed to go : to work ( I guess you don't transmit covid at your place of employment? 🤔) to the grocery store, for walk, to get vaccinated. Deja vu all over again?
 

And this is the reason...

Roughly 65 per cent of Austria's population is fully vaccinated against COVID-19, one of the lowest rates in western Europe.
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and this...
the country grapples with a record surge of infections and growing pressure on hospitals.
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Unless most of a community gets vaccinated then things cannot go on as normal because the virus will just keep picking off the unvaccinated. The virus survives this way, just as cows thrive in lush pastures but may not survive in a drought affected paddock.

If 95% of people are vaccinated then the virus finds it much harder to reproduce and those people who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons will be a lot safer. We vaccinate for ourselves, our friends and for vulnerable people in our communities.

Vaccination is not a set and forget process. Viruses mutate and vaccine effectiveness wanes over time but they tend to hold the line by making it harder for the virus to find hosts in whose cells it can reproduce itself.
 
Warrigal said:
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Unless most of a community gets vaccinated then things cannot go on as normal because the virus will just keep picking off the unvaccinated. The virus survives this way, just as cows thrive in lush pastures but may not survive in a drought affected paddock.

If 95% of people are vaccinated then the virus finds it much harder to reproduce and those people who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons will be a lot safer. We vaccinate for ourselves, our friends and for vulnerable people in our communities.

Vaccination is not a set and forget process. Viruses mutate and vaccine effectiveness wanes over time but they tend to hold the line by making it harder for the virus to find hosts in whose cells it can reproduce itself.
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And there is antibody dependence enhancement which is a valid concern, but one which everyone dismisses as a conspiracy theory but it is not. It should at least be studied more thoroughly so people will know with more certainty what to do. Or redevelop the vaccines so the spike proteins never penetrate the nucleus of our cells as they sometimes do.
 
Here in Wales you can’t get into large crowd outdoor events or attend an indoor concert,theatre or cinema( and probably pubs and restaurants soon) without showing a Covid Pass proving you are double jabbed.Or proof of a negative test.
We haven’t gone down the ban the unvaccinated route yet but it wouldn’t surprise me if Wales and other places followed suit.
And it’s something that needs stopping in it’s tracks.
Threads such as this are difficult to comment on without involving politics but it is worrying that folk are effectively being told that if you want a life you have to comply.
I complied purely because I feared being banned from things.
That is wrong.
 
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People who choose to be vaccinated accept the risks and consequences of that action including feeling ill for a couple of days, maybe dealing with rare (but very real) life-threatening side effects, probably needing booster shots to remain protected and possibly suffering a breakthrough case.

People who choose to not be vaccinated likewise take risks and consequences including possibly becoming very ill or dying from Covid.
Living with certain restrictions are among those consequences.

I threw a baby shower for my soon-to-be grandchild and made it clear on the invitation that only fully vaccinated people were welcome. My niece and her family weren't vaccinated so they couldn't come.

The choices are clear.
 
You know good people I am sick and tired of this Covid stuff. When I read yesterday what they are doing in Austria I thought to myself, hey, that makes sense. Why punish everyone because a small minority don't want the needle? We have been punished now for going on for 2 years. Ya, I know about freedom of choice and I love my freedom too. Actually, I hate wearing those ugly masks but man, 2 years of Covid is way too long. We have to get that herd immunity or whatever they call it and get on with our lives. I hope the government here in Canada gets inspired from Austria's ruling but I'm not holding my breath. Big Pharma rules this country and they are laughing all the way to the bank.
 
Furryanimal said:
Here in Wales you can’t into large crowd outdoor events or attend an indoor concert,theatre or cinema( and probably pubs and restaurants soon) without showing a Covid Pass proving you are double jabbed.Or proof of a negative test.
We haven’t gone down the ban the unvaccinated route yet but it wouldn’t surprise me if Wales and other places followed suit.
And it’s something that needs stopping in it’s tracks.
Threads such as this are difficult to comment on without involving politics but it is worrying that folk are effectively being told that if you want a life you have to comply.
I complied purely because I feared being banned from things.
That is wrong.
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Furry, we all have to "comply" with all sorts of things, all the time. That is part of the price we pay for living in a social environment. If you don't want to comply, you can always be a hermit, living alone in the woods, never go anywhere or interact with another human being, and no one will bother you.

To go to concerts, restaurants, etc., as most of us like to do we have to comply with stuff like paying for tickets (or for our food), sitting in the theatre seat that our ticket tells us to sit, we have to observe certain social norms such as wearing clothes, not loudly raving and ranting, and so on. For some shows and movies, we have to be a certain age to be admitted.

I don't hear anybody saying, "That is wrong." Only the vaccine which may be keeping you alive is mentioned in that way.
 
chic said:
At midnight tonight, Austria begins a lockdown on the unvaccinated. Unvaccinated people will only be allowed to go : to work ( I guess you don't transmit covid at your place of employment? 🤔) to the grocery store, for walk, to get vaccinated. Deja vu all over again?
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Hmmmm so un-vaccinated people will be potentially allowed to transmit C-19 in the workplace, and to people in the supermarket but not in a bar.....:unsure:
 
Sunny said:
Furry, we all have to "comply" with all sorts of things, all the time. That is part of the price we pay for living in a social environment. If you don't want to comply, you can always be a hermit, living alone in the woods, never go anywhere or interact with another human being, and no one will bother you.

To go to concerts, restaurants, etc., as most of us like to do we have to comply with stuff like paying for tickets (or for our food), sitting in the theatre seat that our ticket tells us to sit, we have to observe certain social norms such as wearing clothes, not loudly raving and ranting, and so on. For some shows and movies, we have to be a certain age to be admitted.

I don't hear anybody saying, "That is wrong." Only the vaccine which may be keeping you alive is mentioned in that way.
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On the medRxiv website (a preprint server for Health Sciences, operated by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory in New York) is a recent study that shows both vaxxed and unvaxxed people carry a similar viral load (particularly w/the Delta variant). So everyone who has been exposed can transmit covid.
 
chic said:
At midnight tonight, Austria begins a lockdown on the unvaccinated. Unvaccinated people will only be allowed to go : to work ( I guess you don't transmit covid at your place of employment? 🤔) to the grocery store, for walk, to get vaccinated. Deja vu all over again?
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Yes, "Austrian Covid" is a considerate virus.......it only infects "certain" people while they're doing "certain" things. Austrian Covid understands that people have to work & shop. 😂
Here, "American Covid" is also considerate. You have to wear a mask while you walk into a restaurant, then you take it off after you sit down - inches from people in the next booth. American Covid knows you're eating & it knows you can't eat with a mask on. 😂
 
The longer this virus lingers, and the more it mutates, the greater the chances that these mandates and lockdowns will continue. There are so many people who refuse the vaccines, and even still some who think this is a hoax, that any improvement in the numbers will likely be short lived. It took a long time to eradicate polio and smallpox, and it looks like Covid may also be a concern, for years.
 

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