Bill Cosby - Guilty on all counts

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Evidently the judge thought he might try to run. He had to relinquish his passport. It's sad to lose heroes

Don't get me wrong...I never really liked the guy...I just need proof...and so far I have heard none. Only emotional accusation.

But, @ this point, it doesn't really matter what I think...it mattered what the jury thought...arrived at. I just disagree with them.

And I hate to see accusation alone become as strong....as it appears to be, becoming.

Who's next ?

Years ago, a friend of mine came [as they say] "that close" to going to prison on accusation alone. Fortunately the accuser broke down on the witness stand and admitted it was all bull...

Still cost my friend $58,000 for legal But ! he remained free. Although I believe the stress of it all, contributed to his death....

P.S........he was a good person.
 

I'll only address the one comment in your post, rgp.

I think you're forgetting that in his deposition, Cosby admitted giving drugs to women then having sex with them.

OK fine....I'll admit that back in the day. I gave [bought] drinks for women , then had sex with them. Should I go to prison? Alcohol is after all a drug as well. And they drank it.

Again, back in the day of drugs sex & rock & roll....what THEY did was normal.

I can remember being "turned down" because I had NO drugs...it just wasn't my thing.
 
OK fine....I'll admit that back in the day. I gave [bought] drinks for women , then had sex with them. Should I go to prison? Alcohol is after all a drug as well. And they drank it.

Again, back in the day of drug sex & rock & roll....what THEY did was normal.

I can remember being "turned down" because I had NO drugs...it just wasn't my thing.

Why are you asking me if you should go to prison? :confused:

We're talking about Bill Cosby. Your personal dating history is not relevant. This is silly. 'Bye :eek:nthego:
 

Why are you asking me if you should go to prison? :confused:

We're talking about Bill Cosby. Your personal dating history is not relevant. This is silly. 'Bye :eek:nthego:

Because it is actually the same thing. They came together under what ever circumstances..He offered them drugs, they had sex, now [they] {say} it was against their will, due to them being under the influence of the drugs he provided . I met women, [bringing us together] I offered them drink..in many cases we engaged in [lets call it intimacy]. They were under the influence of the drug provided...the drug in my case being alcohol. Should I go to jail now...20,30,40 years later just because thinking back...one of them has decided she didn't want the intimacy [then] ?.........Same thing when ya think about it.

So,You're silly....bye.
 
The only way for men to protect themselves, now days, is to have a notarized contract drawn up by an attorney and signed by 3 witnesses.

"I, Jane Doe, swear that I am over the age of consent, that I am of sound mind, and that I knowingly, and willingly want to get it on with Joe Smith. And, I further swear, under oath, that I will never demand, or try to get, any money, "gifts" or any other benefit in the future. Moreover, I take full personal responsibility for my actions and I am engaging in coitus with Mr. Joe Smith because I enjoy it and not because I hope to gain something from it. If I should change my mind, in the morning, or 40 years from now, I promise never to bring suit against Mr. Joe Smith".

You've heard of pre-nups ? This shall be called a "pre-coitus agreement". (or "pre-co", for short) :D
 
Now that the criminal phase is over, the civil cases will soon begin. It's about the money ! Always has been, always will be.
I wonder how many millions Cosby is worth ? Hmm ?
 
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Let this trial serve notice on every man in America. Any time a group of women want to put you in prison AND take all your money you have no chance to defend yourself. NONE !
 
I make it a habit to never pass judgment, although there have been a few cases were I did break with that ideology. In some ways, I feel sorry for Mr. Cosby. He had a stellar career in show business and made millions laugh and at times, even feel good about themselves as they watched the Cosby Show. Each show was family oriented and there seemed to be some moral lesson to be learned from watching the shows. It was like, "This is how the family unit in America should behave."

He certainly didn't help himself with the language he used while addressing the court and then shouting expletives at the Prosecutor. The only thing he accomplished doing that was to show the judge his true colors and his lack of respect for the court. In a way, Mr. Cosby showed the court that he thought he had a sense of entitlement, after all, he is Bill Cosby. I think that after the Prosecutor asked the court to revoke his bail and make him sit in jail and wait until the sentencing hearing and then calling him an a**hole, kind of shocked a lot of people, me for one.

I remember when Bill bought his personal jet. At the time when he purchased his first personal jet, he said that he had bought it for his wife because he didn't know what else to buy her. I think everyone knew that although he may have bought it for her, he really was the intended user.

At this point, the judge has a few options, he can allow Mr. Cosby to remain free on bail until sentencing and even then, he could allow him to remain free, pending his outcome on his appeals that are surely to follow. Of course, the judge also has the option of just sending him to jail as the appeals process goes forward. I know that the women who were effected by Mr. Cosby want justice, but the judge could make them wait. It will be interesting to see what the court decides. I would expect a short sentence, if one is imposed.
 
He certainly didn't help himself with the language he used while addressing the court and then shouting expletives at the Prosecutor. The only thing he accomplished doing that was to show the judge his true colors and his lack of respect for the court. In a way, Mr. Cosby showed the court that he thought he had a sense of entitlement, after all, he is Bill Cosby. I think that after the Prosecutor asked the court to revoke his bail and make him sit in jail and wait until the sentencing hearing

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And let THIS serve as notice to all, men, women and children, that it doesn’t matter how famous a person is or how much money they make, sexual abuse is sexual abuse and NOBODY is ABOVE the LAW!!!
 
Let this trial serve notice to every woman in the world. It doesn’t matter how much time has passed, a crime is a crime . PERIOD!!! Don’t hide your head in shame.
Actually, it does matter how much time has passed. Only one woman was able to give evidence of a criminal act, the one he was on trial for, because every one else was blocked by the statute of limitations. The other women testifying were merely giving evidence that was used to establish a pattern of behaviour over time.

For some crimes, like murder, there is no statute of limitation. Rape is not one of them.
 
Actually, it does matter how much time has passed. Only one woman was able to give evidence of a criminal act, the one he was on trial for, because every one else was blocked by the statute of limitations. The other women testifying were merely giving evidence that was used to establish a pattern of behaviour over time.

For some crimes, like murder, there is no statute of limitation. Rape is not one of them.

Maybe for a conviction but it’s never too late to speak out, if only, for personal healing.
Not everyone is seeking monetary compensation.


Speaking out also helps others going through similar experiences, which , like you said, is what these other women did and it helped establish a pattern of behaviour.
 
I'm still not over it all
He was the beginning of a certain humor for me
observant humor
back in the mid sixties
on vinyl
sitting with pals
sipping beer we shouldn't have
listening to this new guy
laughing our hind ends off
imitating him for weeks

his evolution into a wizened grandfatherly humorist
a warmth uncommon in a sometimes cold world

tough one to accept for me

damn
 
Actually, after reviewing the rape conviction rate in America, the stats indicate the reverse is true. Same thing occurs in Canada.

EXACTLY. It’s the complete opposite and the saddest thing is most people never speak up because of this very reason. There is such shame , embarrassment and ridicule confessing such things. For it then to be dismissed as nothing but lies & deception, closes the door for others in similar situations and sadly it’s not only women this happens to. It happens to people of all ages & races all over the world. The very reason METOO was created.
 
Let this trial serve notice to every woman in the world. It doesn’t matter how much time has passed, a crime is a crime . PERIOD!!! Don’t hide your head in shame.

It indeed does matter...PERIOD!!! when that time has erased any & all chance of displaying any evidence of proof.

"Don't hide your head in shame"

Exactly...come forward immediately , show us what has happened...tell us who did it...& I will be the first to say PROSECUTE!!

But 20 years...even 20 days later, when no evidence can be presented....NO!

Our legal system USED TO be a system that required a preponderance of evidence presented. It has devolved to an accusatory system only. And that is a Pandora's box now opened we may all someday come to regret.
 
EXACTLY. It’s the complete opposite and the saddest thing is most people never speak up because of this very reason. There is such shame , embarrassment and ridicule confessing such things. For it then to be dismissed as nothing but lies & deception, closes the door for others in similar situations and sadly it’s not only women this happens to. It happens to people of all ages & races all over the world. The very reason METOO was created.


Not doubting your claims one bit....but prove it....prove it at the time of the offence.
 
Exactly correct, RGP. The days of requiring PROOF are now officially over. From this moment on, every man who was ever sexually active, can lose his freedom AND all his money on the mere say-so of any round heel who wants money and attention. Let the lynching's begin !

I have nothing further to add concerning this miscarriage of justice.
 

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