Caitlyn

applecruncher said:
Yes,
And Mrs. R, while it's true "we" don't have to watch it, but even if nobody on SF watches it, it won't make any difference. Millions of others will.
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I really wasn`t referring to "we" as in those of us on SF. I meant "we" as in the millions of people to whom it`s available to watch. And yes,there will no doubt be millions of people who will watch it. Waste of time IMO but to each his own.

I do also wonder if this sudden acceleration of Bruce`s gender change might not have something to do with avoiding jail time should he be found guilty of vehicular manslaughter-I think that case is still under investigation,isn`t it? At the very least,it could afford him private accomodations..
 

Mrs R – I really don’t think Jenner is trying to sidestep/avoid any charges relating to the accident. It was an accident, and I’m sure s/he feels awful about it. However, s/he surely faces a civil suit which will probably be settled out of court.

But I really don’t think the accident and the repercussions are related to the transgendering.
 
These people are acting much too fast without thinking. Lauren Hill is much more deserving.

Think back to the time those folks in Oslo awarded the Peace Prize to a president who was barely into office and didn't do anything about peace at the time.
 
LynnD said:
Also and I don't know how much money he got or what he did with it from the Diane Sawyer interview and the cover of vanity Fair but if he was so concerned about helping all the transgender people maybe he should have payed for a few who couldn't afford it to have the sex change or whatever they need. Just my opinion.
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Jenner was very wealthy before the transgender situation.

He got nothing from the Diane Sawyer interview - ABC does not pay for interviews.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...it-crossover-q-diane-sawyer-article-1.2103474

The Vanity Fair cover is another story. Big time money; it will break sales records.
 
applecruncher said:
Mrs R – I really don’t think Jenner is trying to sidestep/avoid any charges relating to the accident. It was an accident, and I’m sure s/he feels awful about it. However, s/he surely faces a civil suit which will probably be settled out of court.

But I really don’t think the accident and the repercussions are related to the transgendering.
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I should have checked before I posted. The last I heard it was a possibility that he could be charged with misdemeanor manslaughter. Sounds like he still could be but not likely. The only charges would be unsafe speed and following too closely.
 
LynnD said:
Then let's see how much he gives the transgender community.
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The consensus of the serious commentators on this subject that I've been reading seems to be that Caitlyn has advanced the cause of transgender acceptance astonishingly. I think members of the transgender community are overjoyed that in this one episode millions of people have been forced to think about a complex aspect of life for a significant minority of our fellow citizens.
 
LynnD said:
Thats great and I'm really happy about that but I meant monetary help. There are many transgender people that can't get the surgeries because of lack of funds. Not many have the money to end up looking like Caitlyn.
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True. Advancing the cause, helping society to accept, helping those who want to transtion feel better about themselves, etc. etc. is great. But most don't come close to having the resources to even come close to looking like Caitlyn.
 
And then there is Chaz Bono who transitioned from Chastity.



Does he cop the same backlash? I see that there is a lot of interest in his body weight but other than that, how is he regarded by the public?

I'm starting to wonder why Bruce/Caitlin is getting such a negative reaction. Is it because there is disappointment that a successful male athlete should want to be a woman ? I know zilch about Jenner and the Kardashians so I'm rather curious about what is actually going on here.
 
applecruncher said:
True. Advancing the cause, helping society to accept, helping those who want to transtion feel better about themselves, etc. etc. is great. But most don't come close to having the resources to even come close to looking like Caitlyn.
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Transgenders aside, a lot of WOMEN don't have the wealth to look like Caitlyn.
 
Thanks Shalimar but what I really need is a hip replacement, two new knees and regular physio on the shoulders.
Will the lootery stretch to me transforming into a cyborg.?
 
Shalimar said:
Chic, if I win the 'lootery', we can go get done up. Lifted, stretched, tightened up, filled out, lipo'd, the whole nine yards, all on me! Deal? Men also, if they wish. Lol. We got moves!
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I'd like to be perky again. And get rid of the upper lip wrinkles, but I'm fine with the other wrinkles. I earned them. :D
 
Dame Warrigal said:
And then there is Chaz Bono who transitioned from Chastity.



Does he cop the same backlash? I see that there is a lot of interest in his body weight but other than that, how is he regarded by the public?

I'm starting to wonder why Bruce/Caitlin is getting such a negative reaction. Is it because there is disappointment that a successful male athlete should want to be a woman ? I know zilch about Jenner and the Kardashians so I'm rather curious about what is actually going on here.
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I've thought about Chas... Here's the thing for me. Chastity was a Lesbian.. She felt she was in the body of a woman, but was actually a man.. and she liked women. As a male, he still likes women and he is a heterosexual man. People can understand that.

Bruce on the other hand, has proclaimed himself to be a heterosexual man who is trapped in the body of a male and feels like a woman.. SO...Now Caitlin is a homosexual woman.. ie... lesbian. A bit more difficult to comprehend don't you think? Plus.. Chas looks like a normal fat little man..You see men that look like him every day. Caitlin is a 6'4" oddity. Have you seen many 6'4" women? Will many Lesbian women even be interested in him? Who knows.. He does have lots of money after all.

I don't think you can say people are giving Caitlin "backlash".... People are just expressing their confusion.. No one really gives a rats ass other than the fact that he as been in our face for the last week... and we are giving our opinions... that is ok... right?
 
I don't think you can say people are giving Caitlin "backlash".... People are just expressing their confusion.. No one really gives a rats ass other than the fact that he as been in our face for the last week... and we are giving our opinions... that is ok... right?
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IMO people everywhere are reacting as if this is a new phenomenon, which it is not, as history shows. When will this become an unremarkable event?
I suppose the answer is when the glossy magazines stop putting it on the front cover.
 
Nothing new is so true. I remember Christine Jorgenson, do you?
 

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