Christian philosophy and the Big Bang

Philly, Hmmm. From a feminine perspective, we deal with that on a regular basis. All those guys still stuck in the trees. Baboom. The primate council is out tonight! Lolololol.
 

Shalimar said:
Philly, Hmmm. From a feminine perspective, we deal with that on a regular basis. All those guys still stuck in the trees. Baboom. The primate council is out tonight! Lolololol.
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Hey, now!

I resent the implication that I'm up in a tree on a Saturday night flinging dung at OOOhOOOHOOOOOHHHHH!!!!

*Jumps down to ground on all fours and trots away*
 
Cookie said:
Here Old Age Pension (usually get at 65) is something every Canadian Citizen gets, even if not paid into it and unemployed their whole lives, but there are stipulations about time spent not living in the country

Canada Pension Plan is paid into through salary deductions while employed and how much one receives monthly depends on how much and for how long one pays into it.
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SS in the US is linked to your salary and how much you paid into it via tax. So you could get $400 a month or $3,000 a month depending on income. UK is a set rate. I only worked here for 6 years so my pension on my own would be small. However, I get a larger amount because hubby worked the full amount.
 
I make it as around $18 million.

Let me check my pockets ...

Beautiful, yes. Didn't realize they had places on that level. I guess they're over-developed just like everyplace else ... :(
 
SifuPhil said:
I make it as around $18 million.

Let me check my pockets ...

Beautiful, yes. Didn't realize they had places on that level. I guess they're over-developed just like everyplace else ... :(
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There had to be a typo on that house. No way it would sell for $17 million.
 
Phil, there are lots of 5 star resorts in Thailand, and also lots of cheap hostels, and everything in between.

We stayed at this one the first time we went which was for a wedding. We spent the first 4 nights at the resort where the beach wedding was held, the bride and groom picking up the tab for 2 of the nights because we were close family (aunt and uncle). We spent the two weeks after the wedding at a cheaper resort.

http://www.rockyresort.com/en
 
SifuPhil said:
Hmmm ... the cheapest is still $300/night. Too rich for my blood. I'm not a hostel-kinda guy - I was looking for private apartments.
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It wasn't that much when we stayed. The breakfasts with a view over the beach were amazing!!! Anyway, this is NOT where we stay on our winters there. We stay just down the road from it, across the road from the beach so it's just a short walk. We rent a bungalow at a monthly rate and the price is no where near that which is why we can stay for 3 months.

Anyway, where we stay is about 1/3 the price of renting a condo in Florida in the winter. The car rental is also about 1/3 the price and the meals are a tiny fraction of the cost of eating out.
 
I spent ten days on R & R in Bangkok back in 1972 and afterwards headed back to Vietnam......I spent a total of five years and nine months in VN between the military and as a civilian.

I went by myself and was fortunate enough to meet a really lovely Thai gal on my second day there and she showed me around inner Bangkok and a couple towns on the outskirts for my remaining eight days there.

I recall we stayed in a place called the Nana Hotel in Bangkok......it was or probably still is a zero star hotel but back then it served the purpose.

I liked what little I saw of Thailand and as a whole the Thais were very friendly........I'd like to go back but that would involve flying and I don't do 'big silver birds' anymore.
 
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IKE said:
I spent ten days on R & R in Bangkok back in 1972 and afterwards headed back to Vietnam......I spent a total of five years and nine months in VN between the military and as a civilian.

I went by myself and was fortunate enough to meet a really nice Thai gal on my second day there and she showed me around inner Bangkok and a couple towns on the outskirts for my remaining eight days there.

I recall we stayed in a place called the Nana Hotel in Bangkok......it was or is probably a zero star hotel but back then it served the purpose.

I liked what little I saw of Thailand and as a whole the Thais were very friendly........I'd like to go back but that would involve flying and I don't do 'big silver birds' anymore.
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On our last trip we spent 3 days in Bangkok at the airport hotel before heading to our island. I wanted to see the palace and the emerald Buddha temple as well as some others. Unfortunately, it was about 100F, and there were tens of thousands of tourists - mostly Chinese or Thai visiting the palace and temple at the same time. It was such torture we headed back to our hotel and stayed there until it was time to catch our flight to the island. I really wanted to see the rest of the temples, take a boat taxi in the canal, the shopping, etc and was really disappointed. Not trying to see Bangkok this time.
 
Cookie said:
There are many expat communities all over the place. I know of one in particular in northern India where the group is part of an 'organization' that is listed with the Indian consultate (bribes) as being a spiritual educational institute. The American and Canadian expats get student visas for up to 5 years and live for cheap cheap cheap having servants and some even own their own houses there. One thing that bothers me about this is that they are collecting their Old Age Pensions and Canada Pension Plan benefits although they don't live in Canada. I hope the government cracks down on this practice, although it is not a gigantic amount of money, it still is unfair. Its hard to say if they are real students or just living there for almost nothing.
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If they've paid into their pensions in Canada, why does it matter where they live when they get it?
 
Warrigal said:
I just read this elsewhere and I'm pasting it verbatim. It is vey philosophical and although there is a Christian thread running through it, it does not mention Jesus or God and is something that people of all faiths and none might resonate with.



I was particularly struck by this sentence: "Every human person desires to love and to be loved, to belong to another, because we come from another."
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It was a beautiful sentiment, aligning matters of universal creation with the universal creator. There does seem to be a gap however. Where does evolution begin? I submit that evolution was born with the big bang. The potential for every created thing was born in that instant. Would God do anything less? We will find that living things had been evolving several billion years before our planet had even formed from space rocks. The theory of panspermia is accepted by many theorists. So what is the next question? What is evolution up to? Theorists note that evolution appears to be random except for one thing. Evolution intends survival and chooses the random path to move inexorably on. What can the ultimate goal of survival be? How about immortality. What do our spirits desire? Communion with God in heaven where immortality is the order of the day. What is the current problem we may not survive as a race.
 
I think you would be interested to read a book by Charles Birch titled "On Purpose". Birch is a scientist in the field of biology and he discusses randomness and the possibility that there is a "hand" guiding the outcomes of some seemingly random possibilities. It is a long time since I read this book but this link gives some indication of the areas covered.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/18093294?selectedversion=NBD7149760

If you can get hold of a copy I would recommend it as an interesting read.
 

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