Derek Chauvin's sentencing is tomorrow. What will it be?

Sunny said:
Those who think 22 years in prison is like a "country club" are forgetting the main point about prison. Losing one's freedom is the biggest part of the punishment. Of course, some prisons are worse than others, but I doubt that many of them are like country clubs. And even if they were, would you want to be locked up in a country club which you were never allowed to leave, with guards ordering you around and telling you when to eat (and what), when to sleep, when it's "exercise time" and so on? For years and years? No career, no normal family time, just living with disgrace for the rest of your life? And probably ruining the lives of your own loved ones as well?

Not that this is in any way supporting Chauvin, of course. I also would have liked to see him get a longer sentence.

One thing that might be interesting would be to have Chauvin interviewed after all the dust settles, and see what he has to say about what he did. Would he still try to defend his actions, saying that somehow kneeling all that time on a man's neck was necessary for some reason? Or would he admit to racism, being prompted by his own inner demons and anger issues, etc.?
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I think you're giving him more credit than he deserves. He comes across as being a bit of an empty headed dullard. Listen to his statement after his sentencing. It's completely inarticulate. He had about a month sitting in his cell to prepare something to say and that's the best he could do? People have wondered what was going on in his head when he was kneeling on George Floyd's neck for 9-1/2 minutes. It's possible that the answer is: nothing.

It wouldn't surprise me if he just sits in prison staring at the walls.
 

Della said:
Really? I watched the trial and saw a whole lot of cops throw Chauvin under the bus.

Chauvin's mother, his one and only character witness, is being raked over the coals for not expressing condolences to Floyd's family. Haven't they had enough condolences? After over a year of marches, memorial services, shrines, pilgrimages, and millions of dollars in restitution and Go Fund Me accounts, people are mad that Chauvin's mother didn't express condolences to his family. That wasn't what she was in court for. She, like most mothers, has unconditional love for her son and she's being hated for it.
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You did not see any cop throw Chauvin under the bus. What you saw was testimony rendered under oath. Had Lieutenant Zimmerman or Chief Arradondo strayed in any way from the truth, they would have been ripped apart in cross examination by the prosecution. Unknown to most folks, the prosecuting attorneys were all volunteers and these guys are no light weights. Despite speaking throughout the trial with restrained tones of voice, these guys are well known as local legal heavyweights who would have given F Lee Bailey and Johnnie Cochran a much tougher time than those emotional prosecuting LA idiots did during the OJ trial.

As for Chauvin's mother, her failure to express any form of condolence or any attempt at achieving reconciliation is a reflection of a pathetic character that could well be used as proof that Chauvin has a long history of remorseless trouble making. After all, it's proof he learned it from his pathetic mother.
 
Sunny said:
Those who think 22 years in prison is like a "country club" are forgetting the main point about prison. Losing one's freedom is the biggest part of the punishment. Of course, some prisons are worse than others, but I doubt that many of them are like country clubs. And even if they were, would you want to be locked up in a country club which you were never allowed to leave, with guards ordering you around and telling you when to eat (and what), when to sleep, when it's "exercise time" and so on? For years and years? No career, no normal family time, just living with disgrace for the rest of your life? And probably ruining the lives of your own loved ones as well?

Not that this is in any way supporting Chauvin, of course. I also would have liked to see him get a longer sentence.

One thing that might be interesting would be to have Chauvin interviewed after all the dust settles, and see what he has to say about what he did. Would he still try to defend his actions, saying that somehow kneeling all that time on a man's neck was necessary for some reason? Or would he admit to racism, being prompted by his own inner demons and anger issues, etc.?
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He won't do that for a very long time, not until the federal case against him is over and not until all his state and federal appeals and possible habeas stuff is over, if even then. He has to be super careful of what he says because of possible impact on present litigation and future appeals and so forth.
 
Butterfly said:
They don't have to be. He'll be in segregation as former police officers almost always are, because of the risk to them from the gen pop.
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Thank you for explaining that as I had no idea how he would be so protected. Being segregated would definitely do that. Not watching the news has it’s down side but I still prefer it.
 
Derek Chauvin is appealing his sentence.. which is expected and usual of course... but his list of 14 reasons for appeal include..


... that Judge Cahill abused his discretion when he denied the defendant’s request to move the trial out of Hennepin County due to pre-trial publicity.


He also claimed the judge acted improperly by denying a request to sequester the jury for the duration of the trial, and when he refused to postpone the trial or grant a new one when asked.

The former police officer had 90 days after his sentencing to file notice that he intends to appeal.


He also filed a motion to put the appeals process on hold until the Supreme Court reviews an earlier decision to deny him a public defender to represent him in his appeal.


Chauvin will be representing himself in the appeals process, as he has no income aside from nominal prison wages.


His case before Cahill had been funded by the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association’s legal defense fund.
 
senior chef said:
I hope that during his prison term, Derek Chauvin becomes some ugly brutes "woman". Better still, passed around for many to enjoy.
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Never happen. Cops in prison are constantly protected & guarded. They're safer than the rest of us on the outside.
 

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