Does your country love you?

A country loves its citizens collectively. It provides health care and various other things. The citizen must also do their part by loving their country if they are dutifully receiving those things.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"(J.F. Kennedy)
 

chic said:
I've heard this from Canadians themselves. It's a beautiful country but many are not happy at all with what is happening there presently.
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Yes, every night the news contains coverage of riots and mayhem north of our border. /s

What the Canadians may find wanting in their country, may or may not align with what you want for this country. As much as we may be similar, they have grown up in a different culture related to expectations of their government. Seriously... Canadian Bacon, yuk!!!!

On to the main point... I don't see a lot of resistance to vaccines in Canada and the data proves that point. In fact...
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That 84.3% of fully vaccinated eligible persons, would indicate they haven't been dragged screaming and whining to the vaccine clinics.
 
Harry Le Hermit said:
On to the main point... I don't see a lot of resistance to vaccines in Canada and the data proves that point. In fact...
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That 84.3% of fully vaccinated eligible persons, would indicate they haven't been dragged screaming and whining to the vaccine clinics.
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Kudos to our Canadian friends, don't have to be dragged whining and screaming to the vaccine clinics. 👍
 

chic said:
I've heard this from Canadians themselves. It's a beautiful country but many are not happy at all with what is happening there presently.
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You obviously have been hearing things from your particular circle of like minded people. You should broaden your scope of sources and get away from the conspiracy types and open your mind to accounts from normal folks who aren't paranoid about the government being the boogeyman, and vaccines gonna getcha. I only speak to very few Canadians outside of this forum, and they are very happy with their country as a whole. There is nothing bad happening in Canada presently, if you know of something, please provide your source.
 
I love this country, is the current mess temporary (forty years of so) will it right itself.
Quit carrying our boys off to fight useless war :mad:


Our country needs our tax money so it can fund the groups that watch over us.
We have to make babies so the govt can carry them off and kill they when there eighteen- but that is only to protect us.
My country loves my taxes, my country loves my babies when their old enough to hold a rifle.
That is two loves, my country loves me, what's the problem?

I love my country, in spite of all it's clucks and sighs, it's my country.
My country loves me as i am a part of the whole.
That does not mean i love the people that make decisions.
 
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Shero said:
A country loves its citizens collectively. It provides health care and various other things. The citizen must also do their part by loving their country if they are dutifully receiving those things.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"(J.F. Kennedy)
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Nice quote but far to many have it wrong.

They think the quote should be

"Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what the country can do for you".

If America is as bad as some think then maybe they should be on our southern border asking the thousands trying to get in illegally WHY.
 
chic said:
But the question was does your country love you? Or even value you?
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Your country is not a person that can love or value anyone. If you are speaking of who is running it or how it is run that is a different subject. The title of this entire thread is a misnomer for it is being interpreted wrong every which way. I live in the USA. It is beautiful and that I can partake in its beauty, why yes, my country loves me, as I it.

Social programs, good or bad have nothing to do with the land itself.
 
Lewkat said:
Your country is not a person that can love or value anyone. If you are speaking of who is running it or how it is run that is a different subject. The title of this entire thread is a misnomer for it is being interpreted wrong every which way. I live in the USA. It is beautiful and that I can partake in its beauty, why yes, my country loves me, as I it.

Social programs, good or bad have nothing to do with the land itself.
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Yea, you got the true of it.
The fingered pulse.
There is so much data, we have difficulty sorting it out; i do anyway.
 
Knight said:
Nice quote but far to many have it wrong.

They think the quote should be

"Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what the country can do for you".

If America is as bad as some think then maybe they should be on our southern border asking the thousands trying to get in illegally WHY.
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You are so right!!
 
Don M. said:
I never expected the U.S. to "love" me. All I ever wanted was a decent place to live, and the opportunity to build a lifestyle that meets our needs.
In that regard, I am quite satisfied. Compared to what people in many other nations have to go through, I think we are quite well off. Sure, there is always the political nonsense to deal with, and over the past year this Covid has turned things upside down for a lot of people, but for those who accept the majority of evidence and follow the recommended guidelines, this pandemic has been little more than a "nuisance".

It has been my experience that the vast majority of people create their own "life" and "love".
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Such a great post. And by definition, what is "your country"? Is is the politicians? Is it the lawmakers? Is it the medical field? Is it Corporate America? Is it Big Pharma. Then I'd say no. They are really only interested in themselves.

But in my view, my country is the people who inhabit it. Do they love me? Some do, some don't.

When all is said and done, I have a good life and I was given the ability by living in "my country" to make the decisions that made it that way.
 
Harry Le Hermit said:
Seriously...

We all had to memorize this ditty, without giving thought to what it means. We the People were the framers, which were the well bred, well read, well fed and well wed and was developed in a time where the masses were rising up and was intended to placate the masses and keep the framers in power.

Nothing has really changed, although at times some people have awakened and screamed that some right that never really existed beyond their imagination... is being taken away. Then it passes and they go back to sleep.
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Not much has changed. "The more things change, the more they stay the same" certainly applies to "your well bred, well read, well fed..." though maybe not so much well read or well wed these days. What conspiracy theorists call 'globalists' are of the same cut of cloth as the Founders as you describe them, only technology has allowed the pulling together of the rich and powerful of the industralized
world, not just the US. Post WWII and the Cold War served their purposes well.

I think the initial potential of the Internet to connect globally threw that crowd for a loop temporarily, but polarization and its designed rapid increase of othering tamps down the threat of coalescence and enlightment of the great unwashed. Add in electronic bread and circuses and the masses are content with ignorance leaving the wealthy and powerful puppet masters to keep their influence and increase their wealth.
 
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Annie A said, "Add in electronic bread and circuses and the masses are content with ignorance leaving the wealthy and powerful puppet masters to keep their influence and increase their wealth."

The bread and circuses worked for the Romans, don't see any reason to alter something that works. We called it the economic downturns
depressions and other minor bumps
Then the TV and Internet and cell phones.
I fear the internet as a tool of equality has passed. A great tool on shaping opinions and behavior will not
be neglected that those that fear 'the mob.'

Like LBJ's question he asking his Chief's of Staff questions on Vietnam.
I asked them, how many man will we need?
They said, we don't know.
I asked them, how long before we achieve victory?
They said, We don't know.

I liked LBJ, he was our greatest National President and our Worst International Affairs President.
 
chic said:
This is an excellent example of what I mean. If you're not happy with crumbs, it's your fault for being unhappy. That's such a crock. My govt has made the average person miserable every day for the last 20 months and then blames us for things that are not our fault on top of it. Sorry. It would take a better woman than I am to find happiness in this mess.
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It isn't the government that has messed up the average person's life, it is the virus. The gov't has been just trying to deal with it. Blaming the government for the mess is akin to blaming the fire department because your house is on fire.
 
Butterfly said:
It isn't the government that has messed up the average person's life, it is the virus. The gov't has been just trying to deal with it. Blaming the government for the mess is akin to blaming the fire department because your house is on fire.
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It isn't just America or the pandemic. This is global. The system is designed to oppress and self perpetuate through that oppression. It's a vicious cycle which would unsettle anyone who is aware of it.
 
chic said:
It isn't just America or the pandemic. This is global. The system is designed to oppress and self perpetuate through that oppression. It's a vicious cycle which would unsettle anyone who is aware of it.
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Here’s what I think.

It’s easy to get depressed now a days, especially when we are bombarded with news, both real and fake. There are fellow humans who are suffering badly, living in poor conditions, even starving. It is not fair. But, it has never been fair.

There has never been a society where everyone gets a fair shake. And, there probably never will be one. There are always people who will work the system to their advantage, no matter what the system. And there are always people who will give them support. It is human nature.

All we as individuals can do is to try to make our little corner of the world better. The only person you can really control is yourself.
 
Does my country "love" me? No. But I don't expect it to. Do I "love" my country? Not especially. Sure, I'm glad to have lived my life in a country with more freedoms than most and follow the laws of the land (including paying my taxes), but the truth is that I could probably have been equally happy in Canada, the UK, Australia, NZ, one of the Norse countries, and other places that don't spring immediately to mind.

There is no need for my country to love me, or for me to love it. People who drape themselves in the flags of this or any other nation don't impress me much. Those who work to improve this nation - and others - they're the ones who get my respect and attention.
 
Grampa Don said:
Here’s what I think.

It’s easy to get depressed now a days, especially when we are bombarded with news, both real and fake. There are fellow humans who are suffering badly, living in poor conditions, even starving. It is not fair. But, it has never been fair.

There has never been a society where everyone gets a fair shake. And, there probably never will be one. There are always people who will work the system to their advantage, no matter what the system. And there are always people who will give them support. It is human nature.

All we as individuals can do is to try to make our little corner of the world better. The only person you can really control is yourself.
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Well said!
 
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Immigrants change culture for the better by introducing new ideas, expertise, customs, cuisines, and art. Far from erasing the existing culture, they expand it.

True to some extent, but you risk losing your culture. I love my country but miss the old days when we were naïve and unsophisticated. The ultimate goal of a ‘world melting pot’ has proved to be a dream, not a reality, just my opinion.
 
mellowyellow said:
Statement:
Immigrants change culture for the better by introducing new ideas, expertise, customs, cuisines, and art. Far from erasing the existing culture, they expand it.

True to some extent, but you risk losing your culture. I love my country but miss the old days when we were naïve and unsophisticated. The ultimate goal of a ‘world melting pot’ has proved to be a dream, not a reality, just my opinion.
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We are current involved in a Placard Carrying, Gender Bending, Government Questioning, chaotic mess.

Assimilation is not necessary, if you bring your religion, your customs and your culture, reinforced by the ability to share the same
geographical area and most important the financial assistance render by the receiving nation.

Again, we have lost our way with no idea how to return to what was...
 

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