Football Season

EXPLAIN PLEASE;
Jet qb was heard to say' (I'm) ' seeing ghost'-media folks are saying, 'brazen, uncalled for...
I define it as a phrase regarding the Pats secondary giving him problems.
Apparently, it has connotations that I am unfamiliar with.
Anyone want to enlighten me?
 

It might mean something I am not familiar with, either.
I thought it meant, that he was confused by the disguised formations and movements, of the Pats defense, same as you, that he had trouble figuring out where to throw and not throw the ball.
He didn't know where the defenders would be, or his recievers would end up?

But perhaps the media is discussing, whether or not his comment of feeling rather defeated (who wouldn't feel that way?) should or should not have been broadcast.
His Coach felt the network should not have aired the comment, but the QB knew he was miqued up, for the netwoek to find entertaining comments.

True, it would have been better if he hadn't worn one. Or remembered he was wearing it.

But is it referring to broadcasting that comment that might be called "uncalled for and brazen?"

I dont know.
If someone else can enlighten us more, please do.
 
Does anyone know what "man - zero" coverage means?

I know what "man-to-man coverage" is, and what "zone" coverage is, but I do not know what "man-zero" would be?

Can anyone explain that for me?
 

It seemed odd to me, to see a "safety" rushing the QB.
They usually are in the backfield.

Is that a Super-duper blitz, or just based on the judgment of the safety, upon seeing the play?
 
A safety is supposed to be a savvy player, with experience, but also a gambler. His primary responsibility is to cover the receivers and prevent pass competitions.

A strong safety lines up on the side that the offense has there tight end .

You will see him on the side of the field, slightly behind the linebackers.
If he feels there is going to be a swing pass outside the 'box' where the runner is still in the backfield, he is to run up and tackle him,

If he feels it is going to be a long pass where the receivers are going to have to run all long way, which takes time, the qb will be holding the ball longer; you will see the strong safety inching
up to the line of scrimmage to get a running start at the qb:

The offensive line have their assignments ,their occupied. The strong safety can not fly unhindered
and sack the qb;. Rather that is the theory

Also, coach can call a safety blitz, from his study of the opponents tendency's to call a certain play in a given situation

There is much more chess playing than this gOING ON, EACH POSition has it's responsibility's.

it is a guessing game, he who answers best, has a tendancy to win the game, but is not always
the case.,
 
Bonnie::
Your supposed to suffer through the bad time, so the good times will be so much more enjoyable.
The Brown's , Bengals, Jets and other fans of 'clunker teams, can teach you all about suffering.
I've sworn off Cowboys twice, but always slither back.
 
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jerry r. garner said:
There is much more chess playing
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Thank you for that very interesting answer and explanation.
It is that chess playing, that is one of the things that make it more interesting for me to watch, as much as the athleticism.

Your post answered a few questions, I haven't been able to figure out, as I haven't had anyone explaining the sport to me. I have tried to learn about it myself, once I could not do outdoor activities, and had to find any new interests I could possibly hone for myself.

I've tried to notice and learn a few more things, each year. At this rate, in another couple of decades, i will know as much as Tom Brady. :LOL:
But like him, i will then be too old to use the info. :ROFLMAO:
Or any info, in my own case. ;)
 
DaveA said:
Pats let both Garopolo AND Brissett go?? Foolish. No matter how good he's been, Brady's not going to last forever and IMHO is showing his age this year.
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Belichick (which we will mostly abbreviate here as BB) definitely did NOT want to let Garoppolo go. Owner Kraft made the decision he wanted to stick with Brady for the [very] long term and overruled BB. In 2017 Garoppolo was coming to the end of his rookie contract, so the Patriots would have had to pay him considerably more - just to sit on the bench behind Brady.

In the 2017 off-season, there was considerable trade interest in Jimmy G. (JG), with both Bears & Browns bidding. BB was impressed by Kyle Shanahan (KS), new coach of the Niners, during their first meeting at the 2017 Scouting Combine. He turned down KS's first offer for JG there. Shanahan didn't push it because he knew the Browns could offer NE a better deal, so he considered the matter closed.

But after Brady said he wanted to continue playing and Kraft backed Brady "as long as he wants to play", BB decided it was better to get something in trade value rather than let Jimmy G leave as a free agent. The Browns did, in fact, make a better offer for the QB than the Niners could (remember, KS dropped the matter completely after the first "no" from BB, so the Niners were looking to draft a QB).

BB was the one who made the call to KS/Niners to offer Jimmy G., getting a second-round draft pick. He thinks highly of him as a good QB, and felt the Niners were a better organization with a more creative offense for Jimmy G. than Cleveland could offer.

I always thought it was a rare look inside a situation where Belichick very definitely disagreed with both Brady and Kraft - mostly Kraft - and took the opportunity to do what he thought would be best for the player, not the NE Patriots.

Belichick is the natural successor to HoFamer HC/GM Bill Walsh. One of Walsh's strictest rules was a team should trade a player a year too early rather than a year too late.

This is a quick rundown of the timeline and background:
Shanahan shocked at Belichick's call re Jimmy G.
 
Much info, thanks Lethe

Like everything, events become complicated when more than one person is involved.
Hard to believe that Kraft would overrule BB. I suppose that owning a club makes one a 'geniuses' with a year or two.

Surly, Brady might be able to go another year; BB is praying he can. It will be interesting, I think BB will split when Brady can't 'do it' anymore.
Retirement? BB does not appear interested, of course, getting info from him is virtually impossible.

When was Brady drafted, #142? Maybe the scouts need to be trained on defining determination, grit and other characteristics that are not on their charts

Paul Brown was the head coach that made his assistants think, Walsh was an assistant for a bit, and so many others.
 
Jerry's explanation was spot on. I think that that the safety blitzing from a zone defense is just that, a safety blitz. The "man-zero" is essentially the same thing except that it's from a "man to man" defense, ie, man to man with no safety in place. The Pats are supposedly using man to man coverage more than any other team in the league at present. That's probably where the term cropped up. It was unfamiliar to me as well.
 
What the heck-there used to be a lot of tutorials on football, I cannot locate them. There are lots of clips on pro
ball, but primarily of plays: long runs, fumbles...

DaveA, Lethe:
BB is doing it with mirrors, chewing gun and prayer. The pats should be losing, their so thin with injuries...
their going to have to start fielding players in wheelchairs.
Plus, many of their players have been classified, 'second rate' by other teams
Yea, gott'a be mirrors, chewing gum...
 
I wonder if Coach BB might like to have proven (and still might) that he could win, even without Tom Brady.

And I don't know if Brady might like to also show the same, on his part?
 
BB reminds me of Yankee Skippers:
Yanks would sign ancient ball players which other teams had discarded, cut or had been put on the bench.
They would check in, put on Yank Uniform and magically regain their youth for a season, maybe two.
Strange, very strange.
Yanks and Pats have access to a fountain of youth?


Kaila:
I've wondered about that. I suppose the time period of BB leaving Brady on his own is long past.
I can't see Brady trying to play with crutches while BB is in Florida with Jimmy Johnson, fishing, drinking and giving interviews about what a great coach he was.

Both parties remain mute on the topic, 'forbidden.' There have to be publishers salivating
-Brady will probably oblige

BB will probably remain mute forever "I' was a coach, that does not include satisfying your curiosity or answering your inane questions. (However a check with a lot of zeros has changed more than one mind.)

I kind'a like BB's stance, hope he doesn't become a 'media item'
 
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It was a very interesting week 7 in the NFL:

What We Learned in N.F.L. Week 7
NY Times by Benjamin Hoffman Oct. 21, 2019
(Summarized for SeniorForums with addt'l comments by me)
...Here’s what we learned:

Packers 42, Raiders 24: Aaron Rodgers threw for 429 yards and 5 touchdowns (to 5 different receivers) while running in a score as well. He had the second perfect 158.3 passer rating in Green Bay history. Imagine if Packers WR Davante Adams had been able to play. The Packers would probably have added another 21 pts.

49ers 9, Redskins 0: SF 49ers swam to a win and are 6-0 for the first time since 1990. The Niners D has allowed fewer than 100 passing yards in three consecutive games, matching six other teams for the longest such streak since 1978. Niner QB Jimmy G needs to stop throwing directly to the opponent's D at least once during every game, however.

Ravens 30, Seahawks 16: Seattle's Russell Wilson picked a bad day [and field position] for his first 2019 interception. It was immediately run back for a pick-six. Ravens QB Lamar Jackson looked good but Baltimore's D were like sharks smelling blood in the water. They looked like Seattle's Legion of Boom used to look before mgmt dismantled it. Lamar Jackson tied an NFL QB rushing record and will break it this year unless he trips in the shower and breaks an ankle.

Saints 36, Bears 25: The score wasn't as close as it looks. Backup QB Teddy Bridgewater has them 5-0 since Brees got hurt. Bridgewater’s $7.25 million salary makes him the highest-paid backup quarterback in the NFL. Insiders believe Saints HC Payton wants to keep him around in case Brees retires, but Bridgewater is attracting attention from QB-hungry teams.

Cardinals 27, Giants 21: Arizona’s Kyler Murray started the season poorly but has now won three straight. Giants' QB Daniel Jones was great in his debut vs the Bucs, but since then he's 1-3 with 4 passing touchdowns and 9(!) turnovers. At least the Giants can be happy Saquon Barkley is back on the field looking no worse for the wear.

Colts 30, Texans 23: No arguing with Colts QB Jacoby Brissett’s 326-yard, four-touchdown performance.

Cowboys 37, Eagles 10: A three-game losing streak for the Cowboys was troubling, but Amari Cooper had his third 100-yard receiving game of 2019 to put the Cowboys back in sole possession of first in the N.F.C. East.

Rams 37, Falcons 10 LA declared itself back on track after beating a 1-6 team that lost its starting quarterback, Matt Ryan, halfway through the fourth quarter. Should we believe them? I dunno......after all, it WAS the Falcons.

Vikings 42, Lions 30: RB Dalvin Cook has rushed for 110 or more yards in five of the Vikings’ seven games. This week Vikings QB Kirk Cousins was second in offensive ranking only to the Packers' Aaron Rodgers. In the last three weeks Cousins has thrown for 976 yards and 10 touchdowns in three consecutive victories. The Vikes will have something to prove 12/29 when they meet the Bears for the second time, having embarrassed themselves with a 16-6 loss back in week 4.

Bills 31, Dolphins 21: Miami led Buffalo for a while and only lost by 10. By this season’s standards that’s practically a victory.

Titans 23, Chargers 20: Down by just three points, Los Angeles got a 1st-and-goal at Tennessee’s 1-yard line with plenty of time to get multiple plays off — and the Chargers still lost. A TD was called back on penalty, and then they fumbled the ball away. If there was a trophy for teams with great potential that never live up to it, the Chargers might win hands down.

Jaguars 27, Bengals 17: Coach Zac Taylor's 0-7 start to his NFL HC career is only halfway to former HC Hue Jackson’s 0-14 start in Cleveland back in 2016. That's one record he'd probably like to not break, LOL.
 
Things I learned from week 7, and from reviewing that good post about it, above. ;)


Some football games can be won with only 9 total points scored (49ers VS Wash)

Seattle is not always going to make an incredible late comeback win. (Seattle VS anyteam)

Colts QB Brissett and Balt QB Jackson, look like rising stars.

I thought the Eagles would make it close, but they didnt. (VS Dallas)


Miami surprised by leading for much of the game. It ended as we all expected, though. (Lost to Anyteam)

QB Philip Rivers remains/continues as the best QB who cannot win games.

I'm glad i am not a big Cinn. fan.
 
Our family are Bayern-Muenchen fans, of the German Bundesliga! I see a lot of football fans in Europe think we are talking about, what is called here, soccer. So, for North Americans we are huge soccer fans.
 
Kaila said:
They're taking turns....napping, fumbling, kicking field goals, falling down..... ;)
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They only fall down when they get dizzy, which playing for the skins, jets, cinn, (browns?), has becomes epidemic.
Well, I guess a group of millionaires can pitch a hissy, if they want too: faint, foam at the mount, get naked; movie folks do it, their millionaires, therefore...

Skin's skid (no pun) is more recent that other teams mentioned, D.C. fans are not very tolerant.
 
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Hey, hey, hey, time for college picks, pro's tomorrow
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/schedule/FBS/2019/regular/9/Was going to pick several games, became involved in why such a disparate in ticket prices.




College ball Sat Oct 26

Wisconsin at Ohio-State- Ohio at home, don’t care how upset Wisconsin is over last weeks loss, Ohio at by 10 Tickets $40.00

Auburn at LSU……….. LSU by 7 Tickets $100.00

Texas at TCU…………..Tx by 8, tickets 67. 72

Illinoise at Purdue……..no idea, tickets $8.00

Ohio State has been sold out for years, same with LSU. Illinois and Purdue are not slouch school yet, they charge a measly $8.00. Doesn't see fair does it.


Ha, post still active: Upsets:
Texas lost by 10- 3 or 4 int's-no way you can win a game

Oklahoma, lost, shocking, Kansas St and Kansas will both jump up and beat'cha

Wisconsin played better than score reflects: I thought they might do it until end of 3rd quarter.

Ain't fair, Ohio State and Alabama field what looks like a pro team every year.

Really wanted to watch Auburn vs LSU, not to be.

Can you guys keep up with who's who: as is it Iowa St or Iowa that has the good team?(there both ranked in top 25, one lost today)

Michigan and Michigan State, which is good this year, which is crumby?

Which is a good team Florida, or Florida State, I just can't keep up

UFC appeared 5 or so years ago, where they been, where is school,...
 
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Kaila said:
Colts QB Brissett and Balt QB Jackson, look like rising stars.

I thought the Eagles would make it close, but they didnt. (VS Dallas)
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Quoting myself there...from last week what I thought I had learned.... :LOL:

Brissett does NOT look like a rising star, today, and the Eagles ARE not only making it close, this week,
they are beating the Bills, who had previously been winning most of their games.
Oh, what a difference one game often makes. :ROFLMAO:


jerry r. garner said:
Auburn at LSU……….. LSU by 7 Tickets $100.00
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jerry r. garner said:
Really wanted to watch Auburn vs LSU, not to be.
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jerry r. garner said:
Can you guys keep up with who's who:
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jerry r. garner said:
Which is a good team Florida, or Florida State, I just can't keep up
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I definitely cannot keep track of the hundreds of college teams, either, and not even with the top dozen of them.:LOL:

But I did see parts of that Auburn/LSU matchup, and LSU did look much better than Auburn. (In that one game, but it sinks Auburn in the standings, that way the colleges do it)
So they got their money's worth, for the fee for that game ticket. 🤣

Today, with NFL, I had wondered beforehand, about Bills /Phil game being a toss-up,
but Phil looks like they will win. My brain weary, so I had to turn it off and leave them to it.

Carolina VS 49ers might be a good tight one, and Packers vs KC.

Carolina and KC, both with back-up QB's today.
ANY predictions on those 2 games?
 
P00! Bills laid down, I was depending on them to pluck some Eagle
feathers. Shoot, cuss,

Kalia : I know very little about Carolina; however, SF cannot go undefeated. If they have to lose to sweep Seattle so be it.

KC/Green Bay: KC without Mahomes! has to play, the nefarious Mr. Aaron Rodgers, fear KC has little of no chance
DaveA says -okay pluck Seahawks-twice.
Letha says, 'hold on here, let me think on it.'

So much for guessing, SF squashing Panthers.
 
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Been watching a few games today. Drew Brees is back for the Saints, and they had a good game against AZ.
Was hoping Denver would beat the Colts .. oh well.

Oh! Big College News !! ... LSU has been given top spot in the polls today, with Alabama No. 2.
Well, this will last until they play each other next week. (hope I'm wrong)
 

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