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I never heard of colloidal silver, but googled it out of curiosity. Here's what I found:

Is colloidal silver safe?​

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has warned that colloidal silver isn’t safe or effective for treating any disease or condition. Additionally, the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission have taken action against a number of companies for making misleading claims about colloidal silver products.
Colloidal silver can cause serious side effects. The most common is argyria, a build-up of silver in the body’s tissues causing a bluish-gray discoloration of the skin, which is usually permanent.
Colloidal silver can cause poor absorption of some drugs, such as certain antibiotics and thyroxine (used to treat thyroid deficiency). There is also some evidence that it can cause kidney, liver, or nervous system problems.
 
StarSong said:
Wanted to let you know Holly has had some complications. She wrote:
"10:50pm just got home from the hospital. Serious infection in the back of my right hand where the are several chunks cut out of it. My right palm was shredded and plastic surgeons had to repair and inserted 27 stitches..while I was in hospital the night of the accident 6 days ago They cleaned the back of my hand but no stitches,then dressed it.

"The pain has been progressively worse since then, so today I was in such screaming pain I went back to hospital where they discovered that despite being heavily bandaged the back of my hand was very infected. The pain was off the scale tbh"

Please keep her in your thoughts and continue posting your well wishes. She reads this thread and says the wonderful support here helps keep her positive.
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Thanks for the (sad) update.
 
So sorry to see the infection updates, @hollydolly. Watch for redness that spreads from the hand up the arm and go to the ER immediately if it starts because it can progress super quickly and turn into sepsis. Dealt with that from a tiny dog bite (one small tooth puncture) on my hand several years ago and wound up having debridement surgery, hospitalized for five days and discharged with a PICC line for a month for home IV antibiotics.

Hoping you're not having to deal with the NHS challenges you've faced recently for hernia surgery.

Wish so I could be there physically to help! 🤗
 
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I’m sorry to read about your hand being sore and infected . Twenty seven stitches is a lot of stitches. It sounds very painful. I’m sending you loving vibes your way. I hope they find something to help you feel better. It sounds very painful. Thinking about you.

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Holly, since this accident was not your fault, does your insurance cover care by private providers? It should. You shouldn’t be falling through the cracks just because you don’t meet the NHS not-sick-enough criteria.

Also, since there may need to be a lawsuit later, you might need to contact a lawyer now to have them advocate for you.
 
Sunny said:
I never heard of colloidal silver, but googled it out of curiosity. Here's what I found:

Is colloidal silver safe?​

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has warned that colloidal silver isn’t safe or effective for treating any disease or condition. Additionally, the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission have taken action against a number of companies for making misleading claims about colloidal silver products.
Colloidal silver can cause serious side effects. The most common is argyria, a build-up of silver in the body’s tissues causing a bluish-gray discoloration of the skin, which is usually permanent.
Colloidal silver can cause poor absorption of some drugs, such as certain antibiotics and thyroxine (used to treat thyroid deficiency). There is also some evidence that it can cause kidney, liver, or nervous system problems.
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In the old days, kings and queens used silver spoons to eat from. They were made of silver. The amount of silver in colloidal silver is miniscule. I am not a doctor, but we have been using it for several decades. I have seen a few "miracles" with it. Even bandaids have silver in them. They sell them at the drugstore. Do your research. The side effects are from a very high dose.
 
palides2021 said:
In the old days, kings and queens used silver spoons to eat from. They were made of silver. The amount of silver in colloidal silver is miniscule. I am not a doctor, but we have been using it for several decades. I have seen a few "miracles" with it. Even bandaids have silver in them. They sell them at the drugstore. Do your research. The side effects are from a very high dose.
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Here’s a brief overview of some key laboratory and clinical studies that have investigated colloidal silver’s antimicrobial or therapeutic effects—and what they found. Note that while silver ions (Ag⁺) do have well‐documented bactericidal properties in vitro (in the lab), there’s very little high-quality clinical evidence showing safe, effective benefits of oral or topical colloidal-silver preparations in humans.

  1. In Vitro Antimicrobial Studies
    • Chopra I. “The Increasing Use of Silver-Based Products as Antimicrobial Agents: A Useful Development or a Cause for Concern?” Journal of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy. 2007;59(4):587–90.
    – Found that silver ions and silver‐impregnated dressings kill a broad range of bacteria (including MRSA) in petri‐dish assays.
    • Lansdown ABG. “Silver in Health Care: Antimicrobial Effects and Safety in Use.” Current Problems in Dermatology. 2006;33:17–34.
    – Reviews numerous in vitro studies showing silver’s ability to disrupt bacterial membranes and enzyme function.
  2. Animal‐Model and Wound‐Care Studies
    • Atiyeh BS et al. “Effect of Silver on Wound Healing: Review of the Literature, Experimental and Clinical Relevance.” International Wound Journal. 2007;4(4):210–16.
    – In rodent and pig models, silver‐impregnated dressings accelerated healing of infected wounds and reduced microbial load.
    • Smith DM et al. “A Comparison of a New Biopolymer Silver Dressing vs. a Silver Sulfadiazine Cream in a Porcine Partial‐Thickness Burn Model.” Burns. 2008;34(8):1030–39.
    – Showed improved re‐epithelialization and reduced bacterial count with the novel silver dressings over standard topical agents.
  3. Limited Human Clinical Data
    • Sams CE et al. “Silver Sulfadiazine vs. Nanosilver Burn Dressings: A Clinical and Microbiologic Comparison.” Burns. 2011;37(8):1191–99.
    – In a small randomized trial (n≈60), nanosilver hydrogel dressings were as effective as silver sulfadiazine cream for partial‐thickness burns, with similar healing times and bacterial clearance.
    • Tian J et al. “Topical Application of Silver Nanoparticles Promotes Wound Healing.” Journal of Nanoscience and Nanotechnology. 2007;7(6): 1759–65.
    – A very small open‐label human case series (n=10) reported faster healing of diabetic foot ulcers treated with a silver-nanoparticle gel versus historical controls; however, the study lacked a concurrent placebo/control group.
  4. Safety and Regulatory Positions
    • U.S. National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health (NCCIH), “Colloidal Silver.” (nccih.nih.gov)
    – Concludes there is insufficient evidence to support efficacy of colloidal silver for any health condition and warns of risk of argyria (skin discoloration) and other adverse effects.
    • U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Drug Safety Communication, “FDA Safety Alert for Intravenous Use of Silver Protein.” 1999.
    – Prohibits IV colloidal‐silver products, citing lack of proof of benefit and documented risk of argyria, neurotoxicity, kidney damage.
Summary
• Laboratory (in vitro) and animal studies consistently show that silver ions have antimicrobial properties.
• A few small clinical trials of silver‐based dressings for burns or wounds suggest benefit, but these involve controlled carrier formulations (e.g., hydrogels, dressings), not generic colloidal silver.
• There is no well-designed, placebo-controlled clinical trial demonstrating that oral or topical colloidal silver (as sold over-the-counter) is safe and effective for any disease.
• Regulatory agencies warn against its unsupervised use because of the risk of irreversible skin and organ deposition (argyria) and other toxicities.
 
@hollydolly hope you're doing better. I'm afraid I got in an accident myself today with Lia and my dog Ember in the car. Traffic was slowing down on the freeway though San Francisco and the Tesla ahead of me put her breaks on suddenly so I also broke fast. But the Prius behind me didn't get the memo and crashed into the back of my car at speed. Our air bags didn't even deploy as the breaks brought us to a quick stop. But my car looked like it had exploded. It is totaled. All in the service of keeping us safe apparently.

My dog was very friend with Highway Patrol and EMTs and rode in the tow truck between us quite happiy.

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Good morning, Holly... hope each day is getting better for you. 💐 Sorry to hear about your accident, @MarkD

Re: Colloidal Silver... To help us come to our own conclusions, here is my research from my three go-to sources. Personally I will not be using the silver and one place goes as far as to call it "quackery." So... take from NIH, Mayo Clinic, and WebMd what you will. 🤷‍♀️

The truth about colloidal silver

Toxicity of colloidal silver products and their marketing claims in Finland - PMC

COLLOIDAL SILVER: Overview, Uses, Side Effects, Precautions, Interactions, Dosing and Reviews
 

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