Husband beats wife for being in the Hair Salon

StarSong said:
Sad to say, he probably beat the crap out of her when they got home. :cry::mad:
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yes I'm sure, .. and she'll have to live her life like that unless she can escape...and there's not going to be much chance of that..

My father was an abuser...I know what living in fear is like for the wife.. and the chances are he probably beats the children too.. as my father did
 
StarSong said:
Sad to say, he probably beat the crap out of her when they got home. :cry::mad:
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Yeah, I worried about that after it was too late. My friend’s wife told me that some men will retaliate if a person defends their SO will sometimes take it out on them. I really felt bad about that and learned a painful lesson.
 

Been There said:
Yeah, I worried about that after it was too late. My friend’s wife told me that some men will retaliate if a person defends their SO will sometimes take it out on them. I really felt bad about that and learned a painful lesson.
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Not your fault at all. Abusers need little to no provocation to abuse because their problem lies within.
If anything, you gave this young woman golden opportunity escape him, right there and then.

She needs to figure out how to disentangle her life from his. Her very existence may depend on it.
 
hollydolly said:
yes I'm sure, .. and she'll have to live her life like that unless she can escape...and there's not going to be much chance of that..

My father was an abuser...I know what living in fear is like for the wife.. and the chances are he probably beats the children too.. as my father did
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I remember well my sister [1/2 sister] and I trembling in fear of my father, and our mother's third husband. While I do miss the closeness she & I once had, I certainly do not miss the environment.

IMO, we both came out of it OK, But WoW!!
 
StarSong said:
Not your fault at all. Abusers need little to no provocation to abuse because their problem lies within.
If anything, you gave this young woman golden opportunity escape him, right there and then.

She needs to figure out how to disentangle her life from his. Her very existence may depend on it.
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Problem is that many women are too afraid to leave. You may have read about the young Marine wife that was killed by her husband on the side of the road. Here’s the story. My Marines should accept some of the blame.

Death of a Marine’s Wife
 
Bella said:
Under such oppression and total control, it's extremely difficult for women in those countries to fight back. To do so could end their lives. Women are property. The men who rule have no respect for them in any way and have a tremendous fear of and hatred of women.

Thankfully, living in relatively civilized countries, we don't have to deal with the horrors inflicted upon those women. I can tell you this, if a man ever puts his hands on me in anger, he'd better take his best shot because he won't get another one.

Bella ✌️
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When I was young, when I'd date a guy, I'd tell him the consequences of him ever abusing me physically, right up front. No one ever decided not to date me because of that, but it made an impression on them. No one has ever hit me, aside from my mother slapping me when I was a kid. The guys I dated, I'm sure they weren't physically abusive men either. This, because I never had a problem like that.
 
rgp said:
"We’ve squandered enormous amounts of blood and treasure trying to impose our way of life on others without much success."

Exactly ! Our culture , our way is entirely different from many others around the world. In their opinion, [our] way will never work in their society ..... and they really do not care to even listen to our way. Unless compliance will bring them ....💰
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yes... I could not agree more ....... while we can be upset and shocked .... this is not our battle and we have not changed this behavior and yes we have even imported it into our country.... honor killings have happened many times ..........it is not just a country but often a religion issue too.
we have created more resentment from some places for feeling we should butt in to all we disagree with it is a losing battle and causes more issues.
 
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MrPants said:
What's acceptable in the culture you come from may not be acceptable when you move to a different country & culture. That must be understood when people decide to immigrate to a foreign country. Unfortunately, some can not push aside these deep seeded beliefs.

Resulted in the deaths of 3 daughters and a mans X-wife some years ago near Kingston, Ontario Canada. Family was originally from Afghanistan, living briefly in Dubai before moving to Montreal, Quebec. It was reported later during sentencing that the father & brother were displeased with the the way the daughters were dressing & acting in their social lives and believed the daughters were bringing dishonor to the family. Not sure how the man's first wife ended up in the car that was used to kill the daughters.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canal-victims-killed-by-family-police-1.792909
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Wasn't the first wife also sentenced?
 
rgp said:
"We’ve squandered enormous amounts of blood and treasure trying to impose our way of life on others without much success."

Exactly ! Our culture , our way is entirely different from many others around the world. In their opinion, [our] way will never work in their society ..... and they really do not care to even listen to our way. Unless compliance will bring them ....💰
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Maybe not, but that doesn't mean we should keep quiet.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.
 
JaniceM said:
Maybe not, but that doesn't mean we should keep quiet.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.
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which is why As @rgp says ... compliance was tied to trade deals and $$$$ but that has not really always worked as well....
 
Bella said:
I can tell you this, if a man ever puts his hands on me in anger, he'd better take his best shot because he won't get another one.
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rgp said:
Which unfortunately & [likely] will see you .... arrested,prosecuted,and incarcerated . Which while it may not be painful to live with ..... it very likely end your way of living. It is a vicious cycle.
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You jump to a lot of conclusions. It's a vicious cycle.
rgp said:
I know something about this, as i witnessed my own mother go through it.
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You're not the only person who knows a thing or ten.
rgp said:
Truth of the matter is ..., Man has always been & will like continue to be the dominant in the relationship. Now, the male can be the dominant , whithout violence .... but that needs to be taught.
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The truth of the matter is no one should be dominated. The truth of the matter is that there are a lot of men who need to be taught a number of things. For starters, if you want to pick on someone, pick on someone your own size... and don't mansplain... and don't ass..ume what works for you also works for others.
rgp said:
IMO, creating P/whipped man bunned, man bag carrying, mr. moms who mop the floors, while wife mows the lawn, and or does the driving on family outtings ... as depicted on TV... is not the way to do it.
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How people handle their relationships and divide chores is their business. There might be very good reasons for the choices they make as to who does what. I wouldn't presume to tell them that's “not the way to do it”. They should do what works best for them and not be constrained by an antiquated view of what gender roles “should be”. Some people are stuck in a time warp and just can't accept or understand that.
rgp said:
I mean ..... 5'2 100 pound women taking on 6'2 250 pound men .... and knocking them out in one punch ? or throwing them across a room, as on some TV cop shows ? is pure fantasy ....... But if that is how they are portrayed ? that is how they will act. And that is what gets them into trouble.
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LOL! I am not Harley Quinn and have no fantasies nor illusions about my physical capabilities. I don't need to knock out a 6'2" 250 lb man to put him in his place or to see that he is put in his place.

Now go pick on someone your own size! 🙂

Bella ✌️
 
hollydolly said:
In a shocking act caught on camera in a Hair salon in Turkmenistan.. a husband is filmed punching and kicking his wife...HARD

The brutality comes as a new environment of female oppression takes hold in the authoritarian ex-Soviet state Turkmenistan. Husbands can be fined if their wives receive certain beauty or cosmetic treatments.

The Turkmen government has increased control over women’s rights since new President Serdar Berdymukhammedov came to power in March, succeeding his father, Gurbanguly Berdymukhammedov, with 73 per cent of the vote in an election that international observers said was neither free nor fair.

Video, here..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ty-salon-Turkmenistan-morality-crackdown.html

Seriously I just want to reach in and punch his lights out.. I'm so angry for her..
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And our Prime Minister says that we welcome everyone to Canada. He better think twice about the "new immigrants" coming. I hope this never happens in Canada but who knows? The jerk in the film seems to have the IQ of 25. Maybe he was on drugs? Whatever, he sure needs a lesson in self-control. Totally disgusting example of a human turd!
 
rgp said:
"We’ve squandered enormous amounts of blood and treasure trying to impose our way of life on others without much success."

Exactly ! Our culture , our way is entirely different from many others around the world. In their opinion, [our] way will never work in their society ..... and they really do not care to even listen to our way.
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Societies do change, and if we set a good example and educate where we can I think over time things will change in at least some of these places. However I agree with @Aunt Bea we can't impose it.

Think of where we were in the mid 19th century, women had few rights and slavery was still practiced. That has changed, but it has taken a long time, and is still a work in progress. Hopefully something similar will happen in places like Turkmenistan.

Women have only relatively recently gotten the right to vote in Kuwait, things are slowly changing, hopefully for the best.

Women's suffrage in Kuwait​

 
A father in North Texas was convicted for killing his teenage daughters because they dated non-Muslims. He felt they were "too Americanized." It was an "honor killing." The mother testified that when they got married she was 15 and he was 29. She stated he "never treated her like a real person, a wife." The prosecutor did not seek the death penalty so the judge gave him life without parole.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/texas-jury-case-man-accused-killing-daughters-88147176

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-gets-case-man-accused-killing-daughters.html
 
rgp said:
No matter how abhorrent "we" think this may be, or what the law enforcement may choose to enforce ....... What other countries do ..... like it or not, is up to them ... it is after all, their country.
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I don't think we should just stick our heads in the sand and pretend these appalling practices don't take place just because "it's their country." Would we feel the same if a country's custom is to kill every female newborn in a family until a male was born first? Or maybe their custom is to chain women to a bedpost for the rest of her life if she made the horrible mistake of going outside without her husband's permission?

The term is human rights, not American rights. We shouldn't just turn a blind eye and say, "not our problem". I wonder how long it would go unchecked until it is our problem.
 
caroln said:
I don't think we should just stick our heads in the sand and pretend these appalling practices don't take place just because "it's their country." Would we feel the same if a country's custom is to kill every female newborn in a family until a male was born first? Or maybe their custom is to chain women to a bedpost for the rest of her life if she made the horrible mistake of going outside without her husband's permission?

The term is human rights, not American rights. We shouldn't just turn a blind eye and say, "not our problem". I wonder how long it would go unchecked until it is our problem.
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It is not uncommon to kill female newborns in China. Don't know how prevalent this still is, but recently sure was.
 
I dated a really nice lady a few years back who lost her husband to lung cancer. Most of the night was spent by her telling me about how badly emotionally, physically and sexually abused she was throughout her marriage. I would never have guessed that. She always seemed so kind and gentle herself. I guess you can't judge a book by its cover.
 
caroln said:
We shouldn't just turn a blind eye and say, "not our problem".
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I agree, but we need to be realistic about what we can do. Recent experiences trying to force our way of life on others, like Iraq and Afghanistan, have just made matters worse.

What I think we can do is expose human rights violations when the happen, and provide education and support to those within the countries trying to make changes.
 

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