If they bring back covid restrictions will you comply this time around?

I am hoping that masks aren’t mandatory especially for kids in schools. I could see medical establishments requiring them. If they are I will wear one as I don’t intend to stay home and not go anywhere.
 
I'd prefer and environment where no precautions were necessary, but if Covid comes back in a big way with another deadly strain, I'm masking up and getting my shots. I have enjoyed not wearing a mask for the last year, but it's not a big deal, and it's not like my basic rights are at stake.
 
Let me pose this question.

Why wait to practice basic common sense sanitation like keeping your hands sanitary until it is suggested? I doubt very few really kept their hands sanitary during the last mandate that was for mask and social distancing since those disciplines were enforceable. Hand sanitizing is difficult if not impossible to enforce so it was only a suggestion.

Since Sars, H1N1, and Covid are potentially deadly respiratory viruses and mask are touted as effective by politicians and political sponsored scientist, should seniors mask up for the rest of their lives or wait till some political motivated mandate is issued right before political election time? If mask are so effective, why wait? I hope we can all agree that cloth masks are a joke if used for virus. They are nice in a sand storm and if heavy enough and dampened, effective in heavy smoke.

Another question I pose is, how are those masks, even the 3 M ones, effective when no one in a virology lab would wear such, but rather a hazmat suit with a sealed hood and piped in highly filtered air?

Why did so many seniors die from covid that even masked up to go out in their lawn or masked up when by themselves in their car, and had received all covid injections in a timely manner? Why? The answer is simple, contact from their own hands that picked up the virus from door handles, produce, grocery cart handles, and the list goes on. Mucus is a great host for coronavirus like the common cold and certainly includes Covid.

While the transmission through the air for very short distances has some merit, it isn't the major source of transmission. I think the rapid spread during the last pandemic proves that it wasn't spread worldwide by the air, but rather by contact and much of the contact from food sources that served as a host for the virus.

Asked yourself, why was gloving, with constant changing, in medical setting required way before covid and a strict discipline, even after the masking restrictions were lifted, in medical settings for medical workers?

This is the only mask that will protect you safely from respiratory and other viruses. Notice the haz mat suit and gloved hands.
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MsFox said:
Let me pose this question.

Why wait to practice basic common sense sanitation like keeping your hands sanitary until it is suggested? I doubt very few really kept their hands sanitary during the last mandate that was for mask and social distancing since those disciplines were enforceable. Hand sanitizing is difficult if not impossible to enforce so it was only a suggestion.

Since Sars, H1N1, and Covid are potentially deadly respiratory viruses and mask are touted as effective by politicians and political sponsored scientist, should seniors mask up for the rest of their lives or wait till some political motivated mandate is issued right before political election time? If mask are so effective, why wait? I hope we can all agree that cloth masks are a joke if used for virus. They are nice in a sand storm and if heavy enough and dampened, effective in heavy smoke.

Another question I pose is, how are those masks, even the 3 M ones, effective when no one in a virology lab would wear such, but rather a hazmat suit with a sealed hood and piped in highly filtered air?

Why did so many seniors die from covid that even masked up to go out in their lawn or masked up when by themselves in their car, and had received all covid injections in a timely manner? Why? The answer is simple, contact from their own hands that picked up the virus from door handles, produce, grocery cart handles, and the list goes on. Mucus is a great host for coronavirus like the common cold and certainly includes Covid.

While the transmission through the air for very short distances has some merit, it isn't the major source of transmission. I think the rapid spread during the last pandemic proves that it wasn't spread worldwide by the air, but rather by contact and much of the contact from food sources that served as a host for the virus.

Asked yourself, why was gloving, with constant changing, in medical setting required way before covid and a strict discipline, even after the masking restrictions were lifted, in medical settings for medical workers?

This is the only mask that will protect you safely from respiratory and other viruses. Notice the haz mat suit and gloved hands.
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Great Points. Masks are use-less. I believe that's been proven. I will shop later at night, probably try to avoid groups but overall, I've done that for years anyhow. I probably will not mask up unless at a Doctors office and wash my hands more
 
MsFox said:
Let me pose this question.

Why wait to practice basic common sense sanitation like keeping your hands sanitary until it is suggested? I doubt very few really kept their hands sanitary during the last mandate that was for mask and social distancing since those disciplines were enforceable. Hand sanitizing is difficult if not impossible to enforce so it was only a suggestion.

Since Sars, H1N1, and Covid are potentially deadly respiratory viruses and mask are touted as effective by politicians and political sponsored scientist, should seniors mask up for the rest of their lives or wait till some political motivated mandate is issued right before political election time? If mask are so effective, why wait? I hope we can all agree that cloth masks are a joke if used for virus. They are nice in a sand storm and if heavy enough and dampened, effective in heavy smoke.

Another question I pose is, how are those masks, even the 3 M ones, effective when no one in a virology lab would wear such, but rather a hazmat suit with a sealed hood and piped in highly filtered air?

Why did so many seniors die from covid that even masked up to go out in their lawn or masked up when by themselves in their car, and had received all covid injections in a timely manner? Why? The answer is simple, contact from their own hands that picked up the virus from door handles, produce, grocery cart handles, and the list goes on. Mucus is a great host for coronavirus like the common cold and certainly includes Covid.

While the transmission through the air for very short distances has some merit, it isn't the major source of transmission. I think the rapid spread during the last pandemic proves that it wasn't spread worldwide by the air, but rather by contact and much of the contact from food sources that served as a host for the virus.

Asked yourself, why was gloving, with constant changing, in medical setting required way before covid and a strict discipline, even after the masking restrictions were lifted, in medical settings for medical workers?

This is the only mask that will protect you safely from respiratory and other viruses. Notice the haz mat suit and gloved hands.
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But here's the thing. For me, if masks were 1% effective, they're worth wearing. Again, no cost to me. Of course, completely isolating in hermetically sealed environments is even safer, but I can't do that. Hell, if my wearing a mask simply made people feel better, why would I not do it for my community?

I don't ever want to test the hypothesis of whether the masks are effective. The cost is too high if they are. The big mistake I saw a lot of people making was that they thought the vaccine was a cure, and meant you could never get the virus. This was always false.

Masks are something super simple, cheap, and illegibly effective enough. Why isn't the enough? On principle? I don't know, if my neighbor felt safer with me in a mask, I'd wear it.
 
VaughanJB said:
But here's the thing. For me, if masks were 1% effective, they're worth wearing. Again, no cost to me. Of course, completely isolating in hermetically sealed environments is even safer, but I can't do that. Hell, if my wearing a mask simply made people feel better, why would I not do it for my community?

I don't ever want to test the hypothesis of whether the masks are effective. The cost is too high if they are. The big mistake I saw a lot of people making was that they thought the vaccine was a cure, and meant you could never get the virus. This was always false.

Masks are something super simple, cheap, and illegibly effective enough. Why isn't the enough? On principle? I don't know, if my neighbor felt safer with me in a mask, I'd wear it.
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I have a neighbor lady a few houses down. She is unable to take the vaccines and is allergic to other vaccines also. She has a lot of health issues and is on medications.

I would never go near her without a mask on. I rarely see her since Covid, she stays in the house for the most part, her husband does all the shopping and runs all the errands.
 
My biggest problem with the mask mandates was the fear, hate, division, and hypocrisy it caused. Unnecessary chaos. As a senior with a compromised immune system, I felt it my responsibility to do what was necessary to protect myself which was the same thing I have done for the last 20 years. It wasn't my place to judge others or give them the evil eye for not using the hand sanitizer before grocery shopping. I see absolutely no reason for masking being mandated ever again. I respect anyone that wants to wear a mask 24/7 if they feel that is protecting them, but don't label me evil or selfish because I don't.

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I despise the arrogance and ignorance of those that think their masking is doing me a favor and my choice not to mask, based on my knowledge of medical science, especially virology and neuro-otology, makes me evil, a murderer, a Nazi, or whatever nasty label these unknowledgeable parrots of false narratives want to call me. If mask mandates are once again imposed, with a majority wearing those unhealthy cloth mask, I fear society will become more unsocial and hate will rule over love, common sense, and respect for other humans.
 
MsFox said:
Let me pose this question.

Why wait to practice basic common sense sanitation like keeping your hands sanitary until it is suggested? I doubt very few really kept their hands sanitary during the last mandate that was for mask and social distancing since those disciplines were enforceable. Hand sanitizing is difficult if not impossible to enforce so it was only a suggestion.

Since Sars, H1N1, and Covid are potentially deadly respiratory viruses and mask are touted as effective by politicians and political sponsored scientist, should seniors mask up for the rest of their lives or wait till some political motivated mandate is issued right before political election time? If mask are so effective, why wait? I hope we can all agree that cloth masks are a joke if used for virus. They are nice in a sand storm and if heavy enough and dampened, effective in heavy smoke.

Another question I pose is, how are those masks, even the 3 M ones, effective when no one in a virology lab would wear such, but rather a hazmat suit with a sealed hood and piped in highly filtered air?

Why did so many seniors die from covid that even masked up to go out in their lawn or masked up when by themselves in their car, and had received all covid injections in a timely manner? Why? The answer is simple, contact from their own hands that picked up the virus from door handles, produce, grocery cart handles, and the list goes on. Mucus is a great host for coronavirus like the common cold and certainly includes Covid.

While the transmission through the air for very short distances has some merit, it isn't the major source of transmission. I think the rapid spread during the last pandemic proves that it wasn't spread worldwide by the air, but rather by contact and much of the contact from food sources that served as a host for the virus.

Asked yourself, why was gloving, with constant changing, in medical setting required way before covid and a strict discipline, even after the masking restrictions were lifted, in medical settings for medical workers?

This is the only mask that will protect you safely from respiratory and other viruses. Notice the haz mat suit and gloved hands.
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Why do medical personnel, lab virologists working with the disease and others in similar fields wear full haz-mat type suits while the rest of us use N95s? Because they're exposed to far more virus than the general public.

When spending all day in Covid patients' hospital rooms (the patients can't be masked because they can barely breathe), or in a lab trying to get up close and personal with the virus to learn more about it, there is constant close contact with the virus. The more contact, the more likely one is to get ill.

That's why.
 
Raddragn said:
I shudder to think of the thousands who might have been saved but instead got sucked in by the conspiracy theorists and did nothing to protect themselves, so they died. Sad
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Who are these conspiracy theorists of whom you speak so frequently and what did they advise that you disagree with so vehemently? How do you KNOW they did nothing to protect themselves? What do "you" think would have protected them? Did a so-called conspiracy theorist do something to you personally? You exhibit a real dislike for people who think outside of the box. :unsure:
 
chic said:
Who are these conspiracy theorists of whom you speak so frequently and what did they advise that you disagree with so vehemently? How do you KNOW they did nothing to protect themselves? What do "you" think would have protected them? Did a so-called conspiracy theorist do something to you personally? You exhibit a real dislike for people who think outside of the box. :unsure:
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Plenty who believed they were thinking outside the box wound up hospitalized, begging for a vaccine when it was too late, and ultimately wound up inside a box. The highly talented Meat Loaf was a sad example.
 
chic said:
You exhibit a real dislike for people who think outside of the box. :unsure:
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I don't know that "dislike" is the most pertinant description of my feelings about conspiracy theorists. I'm horrified that they will defy the safety precautions that are intended to decrease the spread of of probably fatal disease. We all have a responsibility to refrain from endangering our fellow citizens. I don't want to have to deal with the death of a family member because some ill informed moron refuses to take even the simplest precautions.
When I worked, I was an RN who worked critical care for a number of years and I unfortunately saw a lot of death! It ain't pretty and I would not ever deliberately do something to endanger another human being.
 
StarSong said:
Why do medical personnel, lab virologists working with the disease and others in similar fields wear full haz-mat type suits while the rest of us use N95s? Because they're exposed to far more virus than the general public.

When spending all day in Covid patients' hospital rooms (the patients can't be masked because they can barely breathe), or in a lab trying to get up close and personal with the virus to learn more about it, there is constant close contact with the virus. The more contact, the more likely one is to get ill.

That's why.
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Good answer except that any exposure to a killer virus such as the primary 2019 covid one, can be deadly.
If such suits are required in a viral lab, shouldn't such be required to attend to a covid infected patient in
a medical setting where the patient has been isolated? In one of our hospitals, anyone entering a covid
room, suited up and unsuited when they left. Suits mask, and gloves were discarded in a hazardous container.

Other hospitals were over crowded and didn't take precautions, other than N 95 mask and latex gloves, and the death numbers were higher. Also the rate of nurses and aides getting infected was much higher.

Wearing a N 95 with eyes uncovered is risky for medical personnel attending a patient with primary covid.
This is why shields or googles are used in such situations.

Without all the safe guards, N 95 mask, latex gloves or frequent hand sanitizing, googles or a shield, and changing clothes every time you come from a situation like grocery shopping, then just wearing the N 95 while it does have some merit, is basically useless except to appease those that have been duped into believing that a mask, even a cloth one, is saving lives. They give no thought to itching wiping their dripping nose with their hand or a used hanky and then handling produce.

They give no thought to rubbing their eyes if they itch. They give no thought to anything but that "magic" cute cloth mask that makes them a warrior, and the unmasked, those criminals, that observe all other basics like hand sanitizing and coughing in their elbow or if their nose is dripping, wipe it on their shoulder and are looked upon as killers or ignorant.

This is why I answered the OP with only if I am forced into it, will I wear a mask again. If a mandate, punishable by fines and arrest, order masking up just to go out in my yard, then I will abide by it. but not because I think I am saving lives or even helping myself, simply because I am a law abiding citizen. I respect any medical establishment or business that has their own requirements and I abide by them. When out walking during covid, if I saw masked walkers or joggers coming my way, I crossed to the other side of the street. I believe in respecting others even if they don't respect me.
 
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The whole mask BS just blows me away. It's a relatively minor inconvenience that might just protect you from a deadly disease! BFD! All because of your "rights" What a crock! Your rights to what? Possibly die - or infect someone else so they might die. Other people have have "rights" too - the right to be safe from careless, self centered individuals who are so enamored by the idea of their "rights" they are willing to risk the well being of others to assert them
 
MsFox said:
I despise the arrogance and ignorance of those that think their masking is doing me a favor and my choice not to mask, based on my knowledge of medical science, especially virology and neuro-otology, makes me evil, a murderer, a Nazi, or whatever nasty label these unknowledgeable parrots of false narratives want to call me. If mask mandates are once again imposed, with a majority wearing those unhealthy cloth mask, I fear society will become more unsocial and hate will rule over love, common sense, and respect for other humans.
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Well, this is a post that will make us all more civil and loving and respectful and bring unity and peace...

Ms Fox - you are better than this.
 
Yawn. How many times over the last 3 years have members now answered these same questions, asked 99 different ways? Is this some kind of endless soapbox game for the sake of imagined influence? In this very small web community with infinitesimal influence over the overall public versus a vast community like Facebook or Twitter.
 

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